Great results 6200 go t/c with 533mhz mem.

[OiSkinhead!]

Go get fast memory if you want great results with your 6200Go card!!. Sony's selling these notebooks with slow 400mhz memory even when Sonoma's fsb is 533mhz. Since the 6200 shares system ram, faster ram gave me great results compared to the stock 400mhz ram. Here are my results in 3DMark both with 1GB DDR2 3200 ram (400mhz) and with 1GB DDR2 4200 ram (533mhz). Both test where ran with 2 x 512mb (dual chanel) configuration. U need both slots with same speed ram to run in dual chanel. Dont mix speeds as it will run at the slower ram speed. 6200 OC'd to 635/370.

1GB DDR2 3200

3DMark 2001.....9564
3DMark 2003.....3,098

1GB DDR2 4200

3DMark 2001....11117 :dude:
3DMark 2003....4188 :dude:
3DMark 2005....1802 :dude:

The system's a vaio S460B, 1.73Ghz...u kno the rest.
Now playin' WOW at ~39 fps at native res. :bouncy:

Also got a Sager NP3790 with a 2Ghz dothan and a 128Mb Rad9700 and my sony is beating it bad...

[BlinKSilver]

Go get fast memory if you want great results with your 6200Go card!!. Sony's selling these notebooks with slow 400mhz memory even when Sonoma's fsb is 533mhz. Since the 6200 shares system ram, faster ram gave me great results compared to the stock 400mhz ram. Here are my results in 3DMark both with 1GB DDR2 3700 ram (400mhz) and with 1GB DDR2 4200 ram (533mhz). Both test where ran with 2 x 512mb (dual chanel) configuration. U need both slots with same speed ram to run in dual chanel. Dont mix speeds as it will run at the slower ram speed. 6200 OC'd to 635/370.

1GB DDR2 3700

3DMark 2001.....9564
3DMark 2003.....3,098

1GB DDR2 4200

3DMark 2001....11117 :dude:
3DMark 2003....4188 :dude:
3DMark 2005....1802 :dude:

The system's a vaio S460B, 1.73Ghz...u kno the rest.
Now playin' WOW at ~39 fps at native res. :bouncy:

Also got a Sager NP3790 with a 2Ghz dothan and a 128Mb Rad9700 and my sony is beating it bad...

what are the settng you are running, if everything is set to performance, i think that is is pointless, otherwise, woot woot :cheers: .

memory is proven not to make this much difference, can we have some kinda proof, sorry but this sounds fishy.

[OiSkinhead!]

Im Trying to print-screen my results, u know how???

[BlinKSilver]

can we get an exact config now how you did this, except for the memory, all your settings.

Sorry no i don't know how to print it out.

[OiSkinhead!]

shit im trying but cant get it done, ok got 1.73 Ghz, 60 GB 7200 rpm HD, OCd 6200 as i stated, Always on setting, 80.40 drivers with modified .inf file, dunno what else to say other than this things fast. Go upgrade

[BlinKSilver]

print screen works like this, you hit the print screen button, and it gets put on your clipboard, just paste it into paint or something.

what are the setting in your nvidia drivers. look in performance and quality, most important is the image setting.

[BlinKSilver]

also where did you get the drivers, and the mod you used.

[OiSkinhead!]

You can get the drivers here: http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7427 .

Look for the mobile modified .inf for the 80.40 drivers in his signature. You then put that file in the directory where you extracted the 80.40 drivers. Go to System Information/Hardware/Device Manager/Display Adapters double click on yor card and choose Update Driver under the Driver tab. Select "Install from a list or specified location" and enter the dir name where you extracted both the 80.40 drivers and the modified .inf file. Hope this works. I'll post all my settings once i get home since im working at CompUSA in puerto rico. Hope this help, enjoy ur lappie.

[OiSkinhead!]

Just bought 2 x 1GB ddr2 4200 sodimms at www.pagecomputer.com for $104 each!! thats $208 for 2GB of 533mhz ram :awdance: ...should get the order this friday, i'll let you guys know :dude:

[pygo]

Which 60g 7200 rpm are you using?

It is not logical, DDR2 operates at a 2:3 memory to CPU ratio.

Any hardware experts want to chime in?

[dezgot]

Wow, that completely demolishes any 9700 64mb S series computers (in 3dmark05 at least)... I'm mad, I'll have to double check all my benchmarks now...

[BlinKSilver]

well the S does support DDR2 533 so the FSB to mem ratio can be 1:1 except for the fact that the FSB is "quad pumped" so it is actually only 133mhz.

I just don't see how this works, i need to get me some ram and try this out.

my only guess is that the image setting is set all the way to max performance, and hence it completely destroyed image quality for the sake of speed.

But this does not explain the jump in speed assuming of course that both tests were under the same driver set.

[pygo]

Again, DDR2 operates only at a 2:3 memory to CPU ratio. Anyone hoping to realize the benfits of PC 4200 will be using a desktop with a larger fsb than 533, on a notebook it doesn't make a difference.

[OiSkinhead!]

do the math, 2:3 when youre using 400mhz ram in a 533mhz fsb, ram being the bottleneck here. You get 1:1 with ram, bus and cpu comunicating at same speed. Your 6200 ram is OCd to say 635, then you have slow 400Mhz ram to share...doesn't 533Mhz (dual chaneled) close the gap a little?? Of course it does. By the way, my settings are set to Quality, AA and AF are at 2X...just lemme get outta my work and i'll post my complete settings. As for the 9700 vs 6200 thing, I own them both and even my Sager wich is 2Ghz and has 128 dedicated video ram is being outperformed by my S. Im not in any way saying my Sager is a weak performer, its just that the S is a tad better, plus its a lot more portable (4.2lbs vs 7.9).

[BlinKSilver]

Pygo, I don't understand 2:3 at DRR2 533, your either at 2:1 or 1:1, are you trying to say that the S does not support DDR533, because it does, check the specs at Intel, and you can find memory for it anywhere.

and OiS, did you just say you had AA and AF _ON_ and you saw those numbers, this just become more and more unbelievable(sorry), because that would mean if you turned AA/AF OFF you would see faster numbers, if you were to break 5000 on 3Dmark03 you would Be in X700 land, so you understand how I just don't buy this.

there has to be some kinda proof.

[pygo]

Here's an example.

DDR2 is quad pumped and operates at a 2:3 memory to CPU ratio, so if your FSB is set at 200MHz, DDR2-533 or faster will operate at 533MHz (200MHz FSB x 2 x 2/3).

[pygo]

Not that the S doesn't support it, it just won't benefit from it.

[OiSkinhead!]

Home already, first...Blink youre right, AA and AF are set to "Aplication Preference", Performance setting, V sync on. Second, i dont have the need to prove anything to nobody, download the drivers, buy good ram and a tad faster HD and you will see good numbers. I just posted this since Its easier for me to do these tests because i work at CompUsa and we got lots of ram there just for testing purposes and because i own two great systems with both video cards and wanted to let you guys know the outcome . You wanna do it fine, if you dont, fine too...its your system guys and you do with it whatever you want. Im not telling anybody to go out and OC your cpu or do some sick stuff like 750/400 to your 6200, faster ram and/or HD and better drivers wont hurt anybody, quite the contrary. My 2 cents.

[OiSkinhead!]

pygo, theoric conclusions lead nowhere. Do a stress test of your system with both ends and then compare. Technology is full of theories that dont prove nothing. TEST is the name of the game. I dont thing Intel released a faster fsb if it cant take advantage of faster components.

[BlinKSilver]

OIS, now, i believe those numbers, try it one quality, and tell what you get.

okay, pygo, DDR2 is not quad pump, the FSB is quadpumped DDR2 533 is running at 266mhz, the Bus is running at 133MHz, but have no idea what crazy stuff intel is doing to "quad pump" so I would make a fair guess that ratio os 2:1 or 1:1.

[pygo]

I am merely explaining how the technology works, nothing more nothing less.

If you got an increase of over a 1000 in 3DMark03 by just switching from 1G of PC3200 to 1G of PC4200, then that's good for you :D

Anyways, what hardrive are you using and where did you buy it? I'm looking to upgrade my S's HDD too!

[OiSkinhead!]

Ok, set to Quality, AA and AF set to App Pref.
3DMark 2001 is reporting 10902, still quite good

[pygo]

I always thought DDR is dual pumped and DDR2 is quad pumped. Just my $0.02.

[OiSkinhead!]

HD is a Hitachi Travelstar 60GB at 7200rpm, Model: E7K60

[OiSkinhead!]

Quality, AA and AF: App. Pref.

3DMark 2003: 4009

[pygo]

HD is a Hitachi Travelstar 60GB at 7200rpm, Model: E7K60

Did you install it yourself or does it just plug in? Where did you buy yours i'm looking for one for the S.

[OiSkinhead!]

3DMark 2005: 1742 same settings

[OiSkinhead!]

Hey pygo, got mine from here: http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=100519-1&affiliate=nextag

Install it yourself using this guide: http://www.talkvaio.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8

Hope this helps!

[pygo]

Wonder what difference it would make to install the 7K60 Sata drive?

Also if the link you provided is for your drive, the HTE726060M9AT00, you can go to Hitachi support and download files to change functionality into a HTS726060M9AT00.

[BlinKSilver]

holly mother god, those score are still amazing, I need to buy ram, and test out these drivers

Sorry, pygo I would bet my S that DDR2 is not quad pump.

[win32asmguy]

Interesting, I don't think there have been any desktop 6200TC's (even the ones with 64mb vram) hitting these kind of performance level's. Maybe the 6400go in the new S series will perform like this, since its supposed to come with 533mhz DDR2, and the 6400go is supposed to be a higher clocked 6200go.. it will be great either way.

[Nightnight]

Interesting, I don't think there have been any desktop 6200TC's (even the ones with 64mb vram) hitting these kind of performance level's. Maybe the 6400go in the new S series will perform like this, since its supposed to come with 533mhz DDR2, and the 6400go is supposed to be a higher clocked 6200go.. it will be great either way.

http://www.penstarsys.com/reviews/video/albatron/tc6200q/tc6200q_3.htm

yes there is

[pygo]

The great scores are simply a result of not benching with the defaults.

Post Scriptum...BlinkSilver where's my S!!! How bout we agree to disagree? ;)

[BlinKSilver]

did you find somewhere that said that DDR2 is quad pump, i liked to read it, no joke, I never like to be wrong, but when i am, I am honest about it, I am going to flash tmo when i get a floppy drive, i just can't wait anymore, wish me luck.

oh and i run tweaked drivers and still don't see this kinda performance, at 389/688, maybe there is something in the 80 series.

[pygo]

Word for word out of CPU, PC Modder edition V2.0. Regardless, I can see that you are taking this the wrong way. You are debating the technical accuracy of my statement whereas i am simply trying to put a point across. DDR2 is technically dual pumped but it sends twice the number of data bits per pump. Hence to simplify, people usually refer to DDR as dual pumped and DDR2 as quad-pumped.

Hope that clears that up.

Post Scriptum...just a poll does everyone here thing that in the S460 pc4200 is better than PC3200?

[BlinKSilver]

DDR2 is at a higher latency, which has historcally been a problem of AMD chips, but not really one for intel chips, so if your running intel (as well all are) then yes I would say that DDR2 533 is Better then DDR 400.

[pygo]

The question i was asking was whether you thought DDR2 4200 has an advantage over DDR2 3200 in the Sony S? Please explain. Thanks

[Nightnight]

did you find somewhere that said that DDR2 is quad pump, i liked to read it, no joke, I never like to be wrong, but when i am, I am honest about it, I am going to flash tmo when i get a floppy drive, i just can't wait anymore, wish me luck.

oh and i run tweaked drivers and still don't see this kinda performance, at 389/688, maybe there is something in the 80 series.

good luck with the flash man! don't forget to give us a screenshot and some benchmarks! :D

[Barrman]

for a very long and technical review of ddr1,2,3 see link
http://www.lostcircuits.com/memory/ddr3/

As for pc3200 vs 4200 I think that the 4200 should help some but the only way I think it could justify those numbers is if the cpu/fsb ratio changes in order to accomidate the faster ram. If that is the case then a well overclocked video card and the higher fsb should result in better performance. I think it has very little to do with a greater bandwidth for the shared video memory and more to do with a general performance boost (33 fsb is a considerable boost, and that is a pretty good OC on the vid card).

Any thing stated above is simply intuition and expierence speaking. I have no formal proof to support my claims, but I have been overclocking my desktop for years and know that the three major bottle necks in a system are memory, CPU, and Vid card clocks. With the pentium m 1,73ghz chip being some where in the range of a 3ghz P4 I think that we are left with the fsb and vid card as our bottlenecks.

Again this all just my crazy ass opinions so feel free to slam them if you like :rolleyes:

Cheers
Nick

[pygo]

for a very long and technical review of ddr1,2,3 see link
http://www.lostcircuits.com/memory/ddr3/

As for pc3200 vs 4200 I think that the 4200 should help some but the only way I think it could justify those numbers is if the cpu/fsb ratio changes in order to accomidate the faster ram. If that is the case then a well overclocked video card and the higher fsb should result in better performance. I think it has very little to do with a greater bandwidth for the shared video memory and more to do with a general performance boost (33 fsb is a considerable boost, and that is a pretty good OC on the vid card).

Any thing stated above is simply intuition and expierence speaking. I have no formal proof to support my claims, but I have been overclocking my desktop for years and know that the three major bottle necks in a system are memory, CPU, and Vid card clocks. With the pentium m 1,73ghz chip being some where in the range of a 3ghz P4 I think that we are left with the fsb and vid card as our bottlenecks.

Again this all just my crazy ass opinions so feel free to slam them if you like :rolleyes:

Cheers
Nick

I agree with your crazy ass opinion,

One reason to fork for the PC4200 in the S is to improve video performance if not for anything else. I got a slight increase in video performance when i upgraded my memory. I hear that the timings are even more important in video performance than the speed though, but most, if not all DDR2 for notebooks have CAS-4 timings.

The only thing on my mind is how does one increase a 1000 on 3DMark03 with just a memory/hdd upgrade? I do question the validity, the only way would be maybe to run two different benchmark settings in Futuremark...which would really make it an apples to oranges comparison.

[OiSkinhead!]

Well, do those tests...I already did my part. Also theres this great freeware called RMMA (RightMark Memory Analizer v3.58) that gives you all the 411 you need to know 'bout your system memory and timings incluiding cpu cache. One thing I dont undrestand is that my system's ram was actually at cas-3 timings wich I had to modify to these settings to get better results:

CAS# Latency = 3Cycles
Ras# to Cas# Delay= 4Cycles
Row percharge= 4Cycles
Activate to percharge= 12Cycles
the other 2 settings that follows are set at N/A. I was able to get a much better stability graph with these settings. That was me playing with the settings and testing.

[OiSkinhead!]

WoW playing great on these settings ~37fps, ~34fps in Ogrimmar(crowded)
All game settings set to high, at 1280x800 (native)
Forceware version=80.40 with modified .inf
AA and AF set to 2xQ and 2x respectively
video card OC'd to 335/675, fan always on
Image settings=Quality
vertical sync=on
Force mipmaps=trilinear
Conformant texture clamp=on
Extention limit=off
Hardware optimization=single display
Trilinear optimization=on
Anisotropic mip filter optimization=on
Anisotropic smple optimization=on
Negative LOD bias=clamp
Obviously playing with lower res. and changing some settings will give you better results. Also this is with 1Gb ram. I should be getting 2 x 1Gb sticks by this weekend so i guess even better results are to be expected.

[pygo]

I've already done those tests, that's why i find it so hard to believe. I have 2g of PC4200 and my card is OC'd higher than yours. Run 3Dmark 03/05 with the 'standard' settings and see what you get? Now take out the PC4200 put back the PC3200 in and run it again with the 'standard' settings and see what you get. While you're doing this remember to take screenshots and post them.

Good Luck

[OiSkinhead!]

dude u read my first post, thats exactly what I did. Do u actually own a 460?? Seems you dont, and if youre using pc2 4200 why stating it now?? oh and post your screenshots also.

[AzN]

link please.. it's just hard to believe a 6200 can get scores within the 6600s range..

[PNice972]

just to clarify can i use dd2 memory in my fs660/w?

[pygo]

No need to take it personally, i never said i don't believe you, i just said that i question the validity ;)

Why do i need to post screenshots? I don't think that the readers here get too excited over 3DMark scores that are nothing out of the usual. Your scores on the other hand are well :rolleyes:

[AzN]

I agree with your crazy ass opinion,

One reason to fork for the PC4200 in the S is to improve video performance if not for anything else. I got a slight increase in video performance when i upgraded my memory. I hear that the timings are even more important in video performance than the speed though, but most, if not all DDR2 for notebooks have CAS-4 timings.

The only thing on my mind is how does one increase a 1000 on 3DMark03 with just a memory/hdd upgrade? I do question the validity, the only way would be maybe to run two different benchmark settings in Futuremark...which would really make it an apples to oranges comparison.
I know right...

[lordsavant]

DDR2 is at a higher latency, which has historcally been a problem of AMD chips, but not really one for intel chips, so if your running intel (as well all are) then yes I would say that DDR2 533 is Better then DDR 400.

Turion vs PM, isn't it the other way around?

[BlinKSilver]

no I thought it was stll the same............ Any reason I should be thinking the other way?

[Nightnight]

I don't believe you, sorry. How hard is it exactly to get a screenshot with the results up???

Step 1: press the print screen button
Step 2: open paint and press ctrl + v
Step 3: save it
Step 4: upload to imageshack
Step 5: copy link here

now you are done.

[lostbob]

Its a bunch of bull****! Started this thread and doesn't ever provide proof on such an outrageous claim

[BlinKSilver]

i think its unlikely as was well, but no one here has tested the exact setup so who is to say otherwise.

[pygo]

I have 2 gigs of 4200...i didn't see much of an improvement in my 3dmarks scores...just think about what he is claiming...and i really have no idea what you are talking about intel not being affected by high latency.

[BlinKSilver]

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=873

intel chips are less latency dependent the AMD chips.

and pygo, have you tried the same driver version and patch, i would just like to make sure once and for all.

[pygo]

Thanks for the article it made for a nice read, but just doesn't relate this discussion, as it talks about DDR and desktops which are overclockable.

These points need to be adressed before replying since we are going in circles here:

1) We are not talking about isolated things such as memory or fsb, we are talking about the effect of these variables on the Sony S460, NOT a desktop or any other PC, but the Sony S460.

2) DDR2 not DDR is the memory used in the Sony S.

3) The default memory the machine comes with is DDR2 3200 SoDimm with CAS 3.

4) DDR2 4200 SoDimm has CAS 4.

5) We are assuming that there has been, or will be NO overclocking of the FSB, since we are talking about the S460.

With this scenario, i would like to know how it is possible.

No i have not tried the driver, but drivers just like memory does not make a new video card. I should also add that i already found the 6200 tc to benefit from the increased memory but just not much in Futuremark...BF2 on the other hand was noticable.

[BlinKSilver]

Thanks for the article it made for a nice read, but just doesn't relate this discussion, as it talks about DDR and desktops which are overclockable.

These points need to be adressed before replying since we are going in circles here:

1) We are not talking about isolated things such as memory or fsb, we are talking about the effect of these variables on the Sony S460, NOT a desktop or any other PC, but the Sony S460.

2) DDR2 not DDR is the memory used in the Sony S.

3) The default memory the machine comes with is DDR2 3200 SoDimm with CAS 3.

4) DDR2 4200 SoDimm has CAS 4.

5) We are assuming that there has been, or will be NO overclocking of the FSB, since we are talking about the S460.

With this scenario, i would like to know how it is possible.

No i have not tried the driver, but drivers just like memory does not make a new video card. I should also add that i already found the 6200 tc to benefit from the increased memory but just not much in Futuremark...BF2 on the other hand was noticable.

I was not saying anything about the S, i was just answering a question on memory, the article was about the fact that the AMD chips/platforms are more hurt by higher latency times then intel chips, thats all I was trying to say.

As fo this whole 3dmark thing, I really don't think has anything to do with memory personally, i think (if this is true) its the the drivers, something in one of the hack or far more likely 80.XX branch of the nvidia drivers.

[pygo]

Not likely the drivers. Driver updates consists mostly of fixes to problems and are not usually altered to increase performance much. Whenever you download a new driver you can check to see what changes are made to the new driver by downloading the pdf. I also checked the link provided by the fella who started the thread. On the page where he/she links to the source there is someone who tested this driver and posted scores. You can check it yourself. Here is the original link provided:

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7427

or you can just go directly to the other link under 'benchmarks' in the above link.

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7259

These are scores are much like the scores i experience with new drivers. Whenever i get a new notebook i always try every driver i can get my hands on, usually they don't account for much of a performance increase if any.

Just a heads up Forceware 78.01 Released!!!

still waiting for screenshots... :uhoh:

[pygo]

Some interesting reads pertaining to the discussion:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2422

http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/products/tech/AN506_1GB_vs_2GB.pdf

:cheers:

[BlinKSilver]

i never like to call anyones bluff, but its started to look even more unlikely. EVENTUALLY, i will buy some DDR2-533 and recreate the test.

[pygo]

i never like to call anyones bluff, but its started to look even more unlikely. EVENTUALLY, i will buy some DDR2-533 and recreate the test.

So i count you in for poker tourney at my place this week'n?

:D

[hox]

Ok my S380 is running DDR2 pc3200 ram 2x512. Overclocking the gfx card core 370 mhz memory 635 mhz. I got 902 on 3d Mark 2005 and 23887 Aquamark. Using the 80.40 drivers my scores have improved: 3dmark 05: 1122 and Aquamark 24,332

I do not see how a memory change to 2gb of pc4200 DDR2 will increase these speeds any further. The good news is a friend is getting 2 sticks of ddr2 sodimm pc4200 2x1gb that by friday I can rerun these tests and see if there is significant improvement.

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/8763/3dmark052vj.th.jpg (http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark052vj.jpg)

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/188/aquamark2ld.th.jpg (http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aquamark2ld.jpg)

[BlinKSilver]

Ok my S380 is running DDR2 pc3200 ram 2x512. Overclocking the gfx card core 370 mhz memory 635 mhz. I got 902 on 3d Mark 2005 and 23887 Aquamark. Using the 80.40 drivers my scores have improved: 3dmark 05: 1122 and Aquamark 24,332

I do not see how a memory change to 2gb of pc4200 DDR2 will increase these speeds any further. The good news is a friend is getting 2 sticks of ddr2 sodimm pc4200 2x1gb that by friday I can rerun these tests and see if there is significant improvement.

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/8763/3dmark052vj.th.jpg (http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark052vj.jpg)

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/188/aquamark2ld.th.jpg (http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aquamark2ld.jpg)

I get those kinda scores, so is most everyone here, it looks like we had ourselves a lie, damn shame too, those score would me really happy.

oh and pygo, i am actually pretty good at poker, so this weekend does sound good.

[pygo]

Did you get the floppy drive to work yet? If my friend in Japan orders an S94(apparently they are quite a hot item right now in Japan) we could have a BIOS on our hands pretty soon.

[Nightnight]

hey blinksilver, did you manage to flash the 6200 to a 6400 successfully yet?

[BlinKSilver]

I had given up, no real support on the idea, and i was having no luck with the floppy(although it was cheap, I suspect it work with another brand). But in all honesty, if I am feeling good, (which I am)I just may install a small ~500MB MS-DOS partition onto my laptop and just set that up for stuff like this. I am pretty damn sure it will work if we get the sony 6400 bios. Oh and ask your friend in japan to dump the laptops bios image, I have a hunch, it maybe nothing, but i have a hunch.

[pygo]

I should note that, although nobody knows for sure, it seems the consensus on the Japanese hardware forums is that it is a 64/192. That would be my only reservation. If not, and the Sony engineers have blessed us with a 32/224 card then i believe the chances of success is very high. I am hoping for news by this weekend. Just curious, were you not able to boot from the floppy? I see an option in the bios?

[BlinKSilver]

I should note that, although nobody knows for sure, it seems the consensus on the Japanese hardware forums is that it is a 64/192. That would be my only reservation. If not, and the Sony engineers have blessed us with a 32/224 card then i believe the chances of success is very high. I am hoping for news by this weekend. Just curious, were you not able to boot from the floppy? I see an option in the bios?

i don't really care about the whole amount of ram, I am 100 percent sure it does not matter. And yes i had no luck with the floppy drive, but it was a cheap old made god know where on, i think it was lacking the right config to boot floppy, because noticed, it in my bios as well.

[ckcroz]

I have a S460B with the 6200TC OC'd to 333/665.

Everything is stock, except for the 2GB of PC4200 DDR2 RAM (CL4). It runs as dual channeled (which was around 800'ish MHZ as I recall from the tests).

I did 2 tests, once using the 78.03 drivers (new beta drivers from Nvidia), and then again using the non-modified 80.40 drivers.

9912 3D Mark 2001SE - Defaults/333 & 665 OC'd 6200TC 78.03
996 3D Mark 2005 - Defaults/333 & 665 OC'd 6200TC 78.03

10041 3D Mark 2001SE - Defaults/333 & 665 OC'd 6200TC 80.40
1060 3D Mark 2005 - Defaults/333 & 665 Oc'd 6200TC 80.40

I ran these with the AA/AF to Application Specified and the Image set to Quality.

No where near the 1st guys post. I'll try the modified driver .inf later.

Maybe, I'm doing something wrong, or I can do something better. Let me know!

PS - I run WoW with the triple buffered/verticle sync'd settings on - resulting in less tearing - and most of the time I'm at 60FPS. When IF is really busy I end up with 30-40FPS.

One thing that drives me crazy about WoW/6200 is that when I run into anything like steam, flowing water from a fountain, some spell effects, and some of the transparent effects, my FPS drops to mid-teens or less. Any ideas?

[pygo]

One thing that drives me crazy about WoW/6200 is that when I run into anything like steam, flowing water from a fountain, some spell effects, and some of the transparent effects, my FPS drops to mid-teens or less. Any ideas?

I get the same thing in Dungeon Siege II when it is snowing very hard. It doesn't stutter but the fps drop dramatically.

[Nightnight]

I get the same thing in Dungeon Siege II when it is snowing very hard. It doesn't stutter but the fps drop dramatically.

in the garden of ancients?

[pygo]

Sorry don't recall the name of the place but it after you come outside of a town...it starts to snow...it's about 10hrs - 15hrs...into the game or so?

Nice game though eh, it's a lot like Neverwinter Nights?

[hox]

Update:
I borrowed 2X 1gb pc4200 Sodimms and put them in my S380p. Using the same 80.40 drivers and modded inf file as OiSkinhead I saw NO DIFFERENCE in 3dmark 05 scores as I posted using 2x512mb pc3200 sodimms. MYTH Busted, I appreciate how folks here politely challenged this person. Hopefully no-one wasted $ on this person's 15 minutes of false fame.

Hox

[Nightnight]

Sorry don't recall the name of the place but it after you come outside of a town...it starts to snow...it's about 10hrs - 15hrs...into the game or so?

Nice game though eh, it's a lot like Neverwinter Nights?

yeah, ds2 is nice but I find that the bosses are way too easy.

[NikJEHumme]

Hey guys, look here: OiSkinhead wrote in the first post that he overclocked 6200 to 635/370 - so it means that 635MHz is for GPU :eek: and 370MHz for mem (740MHz with DDR effect) so If the GPU core speed is true - 635MHz (though I overclocked a desktop version of 6200 and reached 492MHz for core maximum) than here is the result of twicing the performance in 3dMark05 - with 370MHz core you get about ~1100marks and with 635 you get ~1800 Logically - it's right, the processing speed is directly connected with the GPU clock and pipelines, but practically!!!! is it possibile to overclock GeForce Go 6200 in a NOTEBOOK UP TO 635MHz :eek: thats what is going to be with your notebook then -> :reallymad

[Hakan439]

Update:
I borrowed 2X 1gb pc4200 Sodimms and put them in my S380p. Using the same 80.40 drivers and modded inf file as OiSkinhead I saw NO DIFFERENCE in 3dmark 05 scores as I posted using 2x512mb pc3200 sodimms. MYTH Busted, I appreciate how folks here politely challenged this person. Hopefully no-one wasted $ on this person's 15 minutes of false fame.

Hox


You did not mention about the hdd which is 7200 rpm. I think if you add O.C with an 7200 rpm HDD with your results it can be.