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ozone48
03-03-2006, 08:49 PM
Made the jump over to the Acer 8204. Just received it on Monday. Been going through the other threads here on the same model to compare to what I received, as well as, comparing it to my current notebook, Alienware 766 with a 3.2P4 processor, 1GB ram, 60 GB HD (7200RPM), Radeon 9600 vid card with 128 MB memory.

As I read these threads, it is almost like reading the same ones on the Alienware notebook I have now when I first got it. Everyone was pissed about the poor picture, not being able to upgrade the video card except to a limited number of ATI 9700 and Nvidia 5700's. Along the way, the manufacturer and others came up with settings to improve the picture quality, etc. I have been fairly happy with it. Only had to replace a crashed hard drive in the beginning once. I can now hear a fan starting to go and it is slowing down for my needs.

My quick observations on the 8204 so far. I am glad I did the recovery disk first. After converting over to NTFS (I don't understand why ACER doesn't set it up this way to begin with) and installing my first peice of hardware into a USB port and rebooting to finish install, it crashed and I couldn't boot into the C partition. The recovery disk saved me. I have reinstalled everything it came with again. I have only added anti-virus software so far. I did all of the updates to Windows and I flashed the BIOS to update, as well as, the NIC card update the ACER made available. So far, so good again. I did reinstall the same hardware into the same USB port and had no problems this time. So far I have been allowing Windows to control the wireless connection after reintall. The software the ACER provided and I used prior to the crash kept connecting and disconnecting me and causing grief.

Compared to my Alienware, I feel the picture is equal, if not slightly better in brightness and crispness. Performance rocks in comparison. I have only run Super Pi so far. Will run others next week. With nothing turned off on both machines, I get 1 min 21 sec for 2M digits on the 8204, my Alienware does it in 2 min 43 sec. I would say that is a good start. Once I upgrade the video drivers on the 8204 (My Alienware already uses Omega drivers), and turn off un-needed services, there will definately bee some improvement on the 8204. Although the Alienware didn't come installed with a bunch of "bloatware", I am debating the ones from ACER. I am trying them out to see if I want to keep them. So far, I think I will. I like some of the features they provide, especially on security.

I did a lot of shopping around before making this decision on the 8204. Like most products, there is going to be some problems and hopefully they can be worked through. So far I am happy. The weight compared to my current is MUCH better. At least 3 pounds better and closer to 4 or 5 if I count the power adapter. My only minor complaint is I wish I had an external volume control on it. Out of the 6 (including the 8204), I think this is the only notebook I have had that doesn't include this.

I am only concerned about converting the file type (NTFS) again and wether I want Windows to manage the wireless, try what ACER provides or go to some third party. It seems the 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years that somehow Windows XP was installed with FAT32 and converted to NTFS after, I have ALWAYS run into stability problems. Of course I still feel Win 2000 Pro is more stable than XP in general.

The Doctor
03-03-2006, 09:57 PM
As far as the network management is concerned, I uninstalled the Acer included program and replaced it with Intel's own management program. Thankfully, the "Empowering Technology" window recognises when you've uninstalled the various Acer apps and removes them from the window so there aren't any unsightly dead shortcuts ;)

Razza453
03-04-2006, 12:01 PM
what steps do you take to convert fat32 to NTFS?

czm2000
03-04-2006, 01:17 PM
what steps do you take to convert fat32 to NTFS?

I was wondering this same thing. Did you just run a convert through the cmd prompt. That's what I did and it was done win less than 10 min and I've had no problems whatsoever. I had even repartitioned using Partition Manager a week or so before that. I assumed I would run into problems and I didn't.

It's good to hear you're having a mostly positive experience with your 8204.

Razza453
03-04-2006, 01:19 PM
what steps do you take to convert fat32 to NTFS?

bump. lol

Jordan1
03-04-2006, 04:00 PM
bump. lol

The only solution I know is to reformat your hard drive with NTFS and reinstall Windows.

BOFH1971
03-04-2006, 06:20 PM
there is an ntfs conversion utility, its usually supplied on the desktop of toshiba notebooks, links to something in windows system, I am sure a quick google will find the answer

tallan
03-05-2006, 12:31 PM
I used PartitionMagic 7 to merge the two big partitions, then the CMD line program to change to NTFS with no trouble. Last night, however, I was trying to clone to a WD external HD which was formatted in NTFS and Ghost choked until I reformatted the USB drive as FAT32 - does anyone know if you can boot from an external USB2 drive?

wootini
03-06-2006, 11:52 AM
Converting FAT32 to NTFS takes like two minutes. Just hit F1 and do a search for NTFS in the Windows help interface.

wynand32
03-06-2006, 02:24 PM
It's simple:

C:\> CONVERT C: /fs:ntfs

This is non-destructive, and on the C: drive only takes a few minutes (on the empty D: drive, of course, it's almost instantaneous). I'd backup any data, of course, before running the command, but...

I've done this for years, and never had a problem with stability. To my knowledge, there's no reason why it _should_ cause problems.

ozone48
03-08-2006, 03:40 PM
I used MS Windows command CONVERT C: /FS:NTFS

I also have partioning software that can convert both ways from FAT32 to NTFS and back again. It gives a stern warning that data may become corrupted or unable to boot into windows. MS also warns on their site about corruption or data loss. It has been my bad luck three times now on two different machines using both methods that it becomes unstable afterwards.

I have been researching on both file formats online extensively. It seems FAT32 is okay on drives up to 64 GB. This is why Acer partitions it before it leaves the factory. It can be faster than NTFS, but less secure. Acer provides security programs with the unit to compensate. Manufacturers also prefer FAT32 because it is usually easier to support (I don't really understand why, but this might be why Acer did it as well).

For the time being, I am leaving my C partiton as FAT32. I have converted and left the D partition as NTFS in which I will store data only on it. When Windows "Vista" comes out later this year, I will upgrade at that time, clean install and convert any partitions I have into NTFS.

ozone48
03-08-2006, 03:42 PM
A little update, I have upgraded the video drivers using Omega drivers. My first 3DMark05 without any other "tweaks" yet is 4511.