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Arvin
03-31-2006, 01:22 PM
***UPDATE:


I'm having problems with my computer freezing up. It happened yesterday while using a CAD program, and also when installing a game. Today it froze 3 times while encoding a dvd.

I suspect that the computer may be overheating, or incompatible memory. I'm leaning towards overheating becuase when im encoding a movie, only 500 mb of ram is used, while 100% of my cpu is used. It's been working fine, until i've pushed it.

Any opinions?


Toshiba Satellite M100
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Overview and Introducion:

This is a review of the Toshiba Satellite M100. Judging from the many stores I went to, it seems that the M100 is mostly available online. It comes fully customizeable with dual core options.

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Specs are:

INTEL CORE DUO T2500 2.00GHZ
12 CELL BATTERY
MIST GRAY
INTEL PRO WIRELESS ABG
BLUETOOTH VERSION 2.0+EDR
GIGABIT ETHERNET
ATI MOBILTY RADEON X1400 W128M
HDD0039 120GB HDD (5400RPM, SATA)
14" WIDESCREEN XGA w/TRULIFE (1280X800)
2 GB PC2-5300 667MHz
WINDOWS XP HOME
Ports:
4 x USB 2..0
1 Firewire
1 S-Video
1 VGA Monitor Output
1 Infrared port
1 PCMCIA slot with bonus stowable remote control (for express player & windows)
DVD SUPERMULTI(+/- RW DL)
HARMAN KARDON SPEAKER
DIMENSIONS: 13.5" x 9.53" x 1.5"

***UPDATE - I just installed my other 1GB of ram underneath the keyboard. I pried off the upper keyboard plate with a guitar pick, lifted the keyboard without unplugging it, and removed a metal sheild covering the RAM. Easy install, just takes steady hands with those small screws. The system is REALLY FAST now.

Reasons for buying:

I actually sold my Dell inspiron 6000 15.4" to buy this computer. I wanted to be able to do everything I did on the Dell with a smaller computer. I liked the dual core and I needed the dedicated video for 3D rendering.

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Build & Design:

This is a great feeling laptop. The way it was put together feels solid, and I'm confident to pick it up with one hand without creeks. The lid has a little bit of play, but nothing enough to change what is displayed on the lcd screen. The screen hinges are very solid and firm with no play, except for some spring action, which all laptops have. There is a very very minor creek when moving the lid slowly from a stop, but nothing bothersome. The Latch could be a bit more solid though, as it is made of plastic and is a single latch design in the center, as opposed to two on each side. Because of this, if you press down on one side of the lid, the other side goes up just a bit.

The palmrests are solid and offer great support when typing

One thing that subtracts from the solid feel of the M100 is the dvd-rom faceplate. It is made of cheap and thin plastic.

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Screen:

There is minor light leakage at the bottom of the screen. I consider myself a very anal and meticlulous person, and to me, this minute amount of leakage doesn't justify returning the screen for one that could possibly be worse. During normal opperation, I do not notice any light leakage, and a black screen in a dark room is not bad at all. Other than that, the screen is very vivid and has great contrast/brightness. Toshiba's Trulife has won me over.

A drawback is the relatively low resolution. I was used to a 1680 x 1050 15.4" screen, and going to the M100's 1280 x 800 lost me some real estate. This resolution is acceptable in my opinion. I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to multitask with such a resolution, but I'm doing fine. I do long for a 1440 x 900 14.1", though!

Speakers:

I ordered the Harmon/Kardon speaker option. I played a few dvd's and Music files, and they handle them just fine. The sound isn't stellar, but it is better than other laptops that I've heard with normal speakers. If you want amazing sound, don't depend on these, because at the end of the day, they're still laptop speakers.

Processor and Performance:

Everything is snappy and quick, and I've noticed a increase in speed coming from my Inspiron 6000 (2.13GHz/2GB). The M100 came with an ATI X1400, which is supposed to perform just a tad bit better than the ATI X300 (silly naming scheme if you ask me). I haven't installed any games yet.

Benchmarks:

I used the Super Pi program since that's what people have been using to test cpu speed. Calculating 2 million digits, I got 1min 20sec.

I also downloaded 3dMarks05 to see what I'd score. I installed Omega drivers, so that probaly improved performance. I noticed that the drivers changed the name of myt X1400 to "M54". I don't know what an M54 is, so I'll need to look it up. After chugging through the tests, I ended up with a 3dMarks05 score of 2219.

Keyboard and Touchpad:

The Keyboard has a small amount of flex, when pushed down on, but not during normal typing. One drawback, however, is the stroke and force used to press the keys. The Dell Inspiron 6000's keyboard is the best I have ever typed on, so the feel of this keyboard is a step down. I measured the keystroke of the letter H, and it goes about 2.5mm deep - too deep for a laptop keyboard in my opinion. Also, it's not as smooth as the inspiron 6000 in terms of stroke force. A little bit of force needs to be applied to turn that potential energy into kinetic energy to bring the key down. All in all, the keyboard isn't terrible, so much as tolerable. It's decent, at best. I also miss the control button on the right side of the keyboard, and I'm still getting used to the delete key being next to the right alternate key.

The plastic used feels good and like I said before, there are no creeks or gaps and everything fits together fine. I have yet to try to find a way under the keyboard to expand memory because there are no obvious pry-points.

The Touchpad is nice to use, althought I use a bluetooth mouse. The touchpad buttons are angled downwards at the edge of the front, but I don't see that posing a problem for most people.

Fingerprint Reader:

This thing works like a charm. I'm currently using it with firefox and it stores passwords. For example, at the yahoo mail screen, all I need to do is swipe my fingerprint, and I'm directed to my inbox. I also log on into windows using my fingerprint.

Heat and Noise:

The exhaust port is a little large and resides on the left side towards the back. I really wish that the vga plug and the exhaust outlet could have switched places to push the heat further back as the fan steadily emits rather warm air. Since I am lefthanded, I need to keep my hand away from the exhaust outlet to stay away from the heat. I also need to point out that the area on either side of the touch pad get warm after the computer has been on for a while. I've gotten used to it, but it may cause some discomfort for some people.

The optical drive is quiet, so I didn't use the dvd-silencer program that toshiba provides on its website.

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Wireless:

I haven't had one dropped signal yet, and I can pick up signal from all over my house. The bluetooth stack for toshiba is nice and doesnt hog resources. Smooth sailing. Also included is an infrared port, which interfaces with the PCMCIA-stowable remote control. It can also interface with IR capable devices. The remote control itself is a neat bonus, and easily slides in to the slot (ejected by the pushout button). It can be used to power on and off the computer, and control the express media mode. The express media mode lets you watch movies and music without booting windows.

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Battery:

I was disappointed by how large the 12-cell battery was. It protrudes 1+3.5/8" (37mm) from the rear of the computer. I am currently testing out the battery life, and if half of that is long enough, I will switch to a 6-cell, which sits flush with the rear.

Running on battery, with wifi, using a bluetooth mouse, brightness at 5/8 at regular usage, I got 4 hours and 24 minutes.

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Operating System and Software:

After testing my RAM out and looking at the factory cluttered desktop, I installed Windows XP Media Center 2005 - Much better. Royale Vista 1.1 theme - way better.

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Conclusion:
I'm still getting used to this laptop. I like the size, but like i said, the huge battery somewhat defeats the purpose of going from a 15.4" to a 14.1". In my laptop back, the M100 fits just as deep as my inspiron 6000 did. The build quality is better than my old Dell's, I have to admit, but I definitely paid for it.

The Good:

-Quality Build
-Small and light
-Great Performance
-Vivid Screen
-IR port & fingerprint reader is convenient

The Acceptable:

-Keyboard could use a little refinement (long stoke is unnecessary)
-Orange LED for on/off of wireless is bright in the dark
-Palmrests become warm (heated-palmrest for winter?)
-Exhaust is warm

The Ugly:

-DVD-Drive door feels cheap and flimsy
-Sasquatch of a battery is gar-friggin-gantuan


Pricing:

$1716 with tax/free shipping (lowest ram configuration)

3-year extended warranty with systemguard accidental damage protection
$291 with tax - $150 mail in rebate = 141

suddste223
03-31-2006, 02:54 PM
Good review. :w00t:

SPEEDwithJJ
03-31-2006, 03:33 PM
Great review. :thumbup: The way the 12 cell battery sticks out from the back reminds me of my 700m with the 8 cell battery.:)

SPEEDwithJJ
03-31-2006, 03:37 PM
By the way, what other accessories does the M100 comes with??? :scratch: I'm referring to the documentations, CDs, etc.

Arvin
03-31-2006, 03:39 PM
By the way, what other accessories does the M100 comes with??? :scratch: I'm referring to the documentations, CDs, etc.


its a really small box actually, just manuals, drivers, and ac adapter

SPEEDwithJJ
03-31-2006, 04:12 PM
No recovery CD or XP CD???

Arvin
03-31-2006, 06:47 PM
the Recovery dvd is on the same dvd as the drivers

winter_war
03-31-2006, 08:13 PM
Great review. It makes me wish I had waited a few months before getting my M55. That's one slick looking machine.

Fidget
03-31-2006, 09:14 PM
a very solid review there arvin

SPEEDwithJJ
03-31-2006, 10:37 PM
the Recovery dvd is on the same dvd as the drivers


This is great!!! :thumbup: I think instead of going for a Dell E1505 or a E1705, I'm going for a Toshiba Satelite M100 instead. :)

g00nter
04-01-2006, 11:33 AM
Good job on the review Arvin. Very complete. Bummer about the battery, but a little research even here in the forums would have shown just how big it is (there are pics of it in the pic's section). Anyways, I'm glad you're liking it and thanks for the review.

Arvin
04-01-2006, 01:56 PM
Good job on the review Arvin. Very complete. Bummer about the battery, but a little research even here in the forums would have shown just how big it is (there are pics of it in the pic's section). Anyways, I'm glad you're liking it and thanks for the review.


hehe, its okay - Toshiba is sending me a 6-cell free of charge :headbang:

g00nter
04-01-2006, 03:31 PM
hehe, its okay - Toshiba is sending me a 6-cell free of charge :headbang:
NIce. And who said Toshiba Customer support sucks (I'm not saying that you are). Sounds like you're getting treated pretty good to me.

I'm rather surprised about the battey life though. 4 1/2 hours seems rather low for a Duo with a 12 cell, even having both BT and WiFi on. My M2v gets about 4h 20min on the 6 cell with the wifi off (no BT) and that's running the HD pretty hard (The time I tested I was installing drivers and rebooted at least 5 times plus copying files between PC's ).

The heat coming out of the vent is going to make a great finger warmer come winter :thumbup:

Anyways nice lilttle piece of equipment you have there. Enjoy it!

buddy101089
04-02-2006, 08:49 PM
ok so yea ive been looking for this! I really needed to confirm that the m100 was the right choice. Mine is shipping wed. so i'm excited!

Arvin
04-03-2006, 07:58 AM
ok so yea ive been looking for this! I really needed to confirm that the m100 was the right choice. Mine is shipping wed. so i'm excited!

Enjoy :thumbup:

buddy101089
04-04-2006, 01:15 PM
3 days!!!! I'm so excited!

Arvin
04-05-2006, 01:15 AM
***UPDATE:


I'm having problems with my computer freezing up. It happened yesterday while using a CAD program, and also when installing a game. Today it froze 3 times while encoding a dvd.

I suspect that the computer may be overheating, or incompatible memory. I'm leaning towards overheating becuase when im encoding a movie, only 500 mb of ram is used, while 100% of my cpu is used. It's been working fine, until i've pushed it.

Any opinions?

agent80
04-05-2006, 04:35 AM
I think it could be a RAM or display driver issue..

Arvin
04-06-2006, 01:09 AM
it was a stick of bad ram

kuwait_group
04-08-2006, 10:04 AM
Hey Guys,

Im Looking To Get The M100, But I Dunno They Always Say Tht You Should Wait For What Comes Out In Summer ? , will the m100 go cheaper ?

because im looking for those specs.

Toshiba Satellite M100-ST5111 Intel® Core™ Duo Processor T2500 (2.00GHz, 2MB L2 cache, 667MHz FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional SP2, Peacock Blue, 256MB PC4200 DDR2 533MHz SDRAM (256MBx1), 14.1" Diagonal Widescreen XGA TruBrite™ display (1280x768), ATI Mobility™ Radeon® X1400 with 128MB DDR SDRAM, 40GB HDD (5400rpm, Serial-ATA), DVD SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) drive, Intel® PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (802.11a/b/g), Bluetooth® (v.2.0) + EDR, harman/kardon® stereo speakers, Lithium Ion Battery (12-cell), 1 Year Standard Limited Warranty,

i got about $1,647.30 without tax , shipping to NY


i really need your guys opinions ?

Thank You

Arvin
04-08-2006, 02:57 PM
by the way, in advanced properties, it says that my ATI X1400 is 256mb

kuwait_group
04-11-2006, 06:23 AM
Ati x1400 how is it with gaming ?

would it run fear ?

thank you

Arvin
04-13-2006, 12:37 PM
Im not sure, Due to problems stated in my other thread, I'm returning this for an asus W3j.

kuwait_group
04-13-2006, 12:57 PM
Why There Are Problem With The m100 ????

Arvin
04-13-2006, 01:58 PM
My problems might be an isolated case, but im returning it mostly because some kind of hardware issue is causing my computer to freeze during start up. Along with the fact that more can be had for less.

kuwait_group
04-13-2006, 02:24 PM
Im Kinda New In The Laptop World, But Im Pro In desktops, The Problem Why It Is Freezing Its Becuase there is a prog. that is loading up @ start up and it is not compatible with the specs you have or it is not supported by your windows version. the thing is that that prog. is trying to load, and it is not loading, that what causes the freezing up , i recommend unistalling it, if that didnt work a format.

wish that helps

Arvin
04-14-2006, 11:33 AM
I've formated three times - two with windows xp media center 2005, and once with the fresh toshiba OEM install. It froze randomly right off the bat with each install.

It's a hardware problem.

kuwait_group
04-14-2006, 11:47 AM
umm , what kinda ram you have hooked up ?

by the way , im getting my m100 today :) not recieving but ordering :)

Arvin
04-15-2006, 01:11 AM
A-Data. I've ran tests and the ram is working perfectly fine, though.

kuwait_group
04-15-2006, 05:31 AM
this RAM its not the one comes officialy with toshiba ?

carlnick
04-15-2006, 06:15 PM
I suspect it's the compatability of the software,and also you will know it which one by uninstalling one of the programs you recently installed,until you find which caused the freezing. It might be the ddl's that are corrupt,especially when using pirated ones..

M4ciek
05-22-2006, 11:56 AM
I've got A-Data RAM as an additional one (bought at the same time with my Toshiba and already put inside) and it's working without any problems :)

X1400 is enough to play most of the games, not in the highest details (it might be compared to a Ge Force 6600)

rodarapan
05-31-2006, 09:40 AM
Nice review... Thanks!!!

sdyulolo
08-06-2006, 10:29 PM
:lolatyou: Hi guys, i'm planning to buy a brand new m100 series and the specs goes thus:

Processor: Intel Core Solo Processor T1350 (1.86GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 533MHz FSB)
Memory: 256MB DDR2 (533) 1 free memory slot. Total memory expandable to 4GB
Hard Drive: 60GB (5400rpm) PATA
Display: 14" TruBrite Widescreen XGA (CSV)
Video: ntel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950 (945GM) with up to 128MB shared video memory (UMA)
Audio: Realtek High Definition Audio
Speakers: Premium harman⁄kardon® speakers
Optical Drive: DVD SuperMulti Dual layer
Networking: 10⁄100 TX Ethernet
WiFi: Wireless 802.11abg
Modem: V.92 data modem + fax
Bluetooth: V2.0 + EDR
Inputs⁄Outputs: 4 x Hi-Speed USB 2.0, One PC Card slot supports one Type II PC Card, S-Video, External Microphone port, Stereo Headphone port, SVGA (RGB) port, 5 in 1 card reader adaptor
Dimensions & Weight: 343mm(W) x 224mm(D) x 38mm(H), 2.5Kg
Operating System: Windows® XP Home
Software: Toshiba Utilities, Microsoft® OneNote” 2003, Microsoft IE v6.0, Windows Movie Maker, Record Now! Basic for TOSHIBA, DLA for Toshiba, Toshiba Speech System, Toshiba Touch and launch, ConfigFree”, Intervideo WinDVD, Adobe Acrobat Reader v7.0.5
Pointing device and buttons: TouchPadTM
Battery: Up to 2 hours

I'm not really after notebooks for hard-core gaming and encoding but just for the fact to use it for programming and stuffs.

Can I change the processor to a centrino duo later on because it has a solo processor at the moment??

:$

g00nter
08-07-2006, 12:11 PM
Looks like a nice notebook. You'll dedfinatley want to increase the ram though.

As I understand it you should be able to swap that CPU no problem to a CoreDuo or even a Core2Duo once they're out, but unless you have it done at a Toshiba ASP, then you'll void your warranty. So you might be better off just getting one with the CPU you want from the get-go (if you can).

I'd say wait another two weeks or so until new models hit hte shelves witht he latest generation of Intel's cpu. That will give you more options and should drive the prices of current notebooks down a good bit.

sdyulolo
08-07-2006, 04:04 PM
Thanks for your advice.. I hope I won't regret it once I have the unit cause I have one pre-ordered..:closedeye

sdyulolo
09-12-2006, 09:18 PM
:closedeye I've got the unit already but the dvd drive really annoys me. Can anyone tell me how to adjust the dvd rom speed aside from setting it to normal in the dvd silencer settings? It's really disappointing watching dvd movies so slow..:closedeye