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martinje
03-05-2007, 01:14 PM
Guys I been running Kubuntu but do I feel bad now. My amigos make fun of my laptop because its not flashy, they are running Vista now. I remember reading that elive comes with build in cool 3D effects within the distro. Am I correct? Any distros out that will give you the cool 3d effects? I was thinking about trying beryl but Im hesitant to install something that might make my system unstable. So any advice will greatly be appretiated, so I can bring my laptop back to work. Thanks!

BIGEE1212
03-05-2007, 02:20 PM
In my opinion, Kubuntu without any added effects is just as good as Vista! Don't let your friends put you down. Elive is based on enlightenment. Enlightenment looks very nice for a distro and without beryl, it does a pretty good job of impressing. However, if Kubuntu is running pretty well on your laptop, I would suggest installing beryl. I have the same laptop you do (the one in your sig) and beryl works great. Worst comes to worst, you can turn beryl off with a simple click on the beryl icon and changing the window manager back to KDM or metacity if you are running gnome.

http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia

The link posted above is a real easy way to get beryl running on your laptop. It worked for me on Ubuntu with my 7900 gs. My suggestion though is that you make sure you post the commands for Kubuntu and not Ubuntu.
One last piece of advice, after running the script, I was missing window decorations, the problem was that you had to go to your xorg.conf file and change the default depth to 24. Restarting the comp made everything work perfectly. Hope this helps...

And yes, beryl beats the crap out of Vista.

martinje
03-05-2007, 02:33 PM
Thanks Bigee, I will try it tonight and see how well it goes. Maybe I should start using Ubuntu because more people use that and I can get more help with it. Do you use beryl everyday?

BIGEE1212
03-05-2007, 03:11 PM
Yes, I use beryl daily now becuase it doesn't crash on me, although there have been reports of crashing, but on my system, I have never had it hang or crash yet.
It doesn't add anything functional, just pure eye candy in my opinion, but its looks awesome!

drlouis
03-05-2007, 03:56 PM
that's kinda funny. With vista Windows finally caught up to linux in the pretty desktop arena. Laugh right back and tell them it's just matter of time before linux is prettier/flashier again.

martinje
03-05-2007, 04:42 PM
Yeah your right going to install Ubuntu with Beryl and see how it goes I will you al posted amigos.. Thanks!

BIGEE1212
03-05-2007, 09:04 PM
that's kinda funny. With vista Windows finally caught up to linux in the pretty desktop arena. Laugh right back and tell them it's just matter of time before linux is prettier/flashier again.

A matter of time? I think Linux is already better.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lawkc3jH3ws

martinje
03-05-2007, 09:18 PM
Bigee what type of wireless card do you have? I have a dell broadcom 1390 and I needed ndiswrapper to get it to run. After doing some readin today, it looks like it will cause an issue with Nvidia drivers and cause the wireless card to stop working. Im curious to see if you have a intel card. Thanks let me know...

drlouis
03-06-2007, 12:25 PM
A matter of time? I think Linux is already better.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lawkc3jH3wswow, my only experience with beryl is from the Sabayon live DVD. That (link) is some cool shit right there. Even so, most people dont have that kind of eye candy available, and in my opinion Vista just now catches up to the plain vanilla KDE in terms of being pretty - and I'll stand by THAT statement.

I'm gonna have to get beryl set up once I get around to partitioning this new machine...

BIGEE1212
03-06-2007, 02:17 PM
Bigee what type of wireless card do you have? I have a dell broadcom 1390 and I needed ndiswrapper to get it to run. After doing some readin today, it looks like it will cause an issue with Nvidia drivers and cause the wireless card to stop working. Im curious to see if you have a intel card. Thanks let me know...

I have an intel 3945 a/b/g wireless card. It works perfectly in ubuntu and some other distributions, but not others. I'm not familiar with the Dell wireless cards and what distributions it works with ... sorry

martinje
03-06-2007, 02:53 PM
Damn looks like I will need to buy a intel wireless card in order to get beryl to work with Ubuntu. My current wireless card will stop working once you enable beryl. :( damn...

BIGEE1212
03-06-2007, 03:18 PM
I saw that you went to the for sale/trade section and asking for an intel 3945 card. The good part is that ubuntu supports this card. However, many distributions, including debian do not support it

http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/

Luckily, there are supported drivers which don't take much effort to get the wireless card working. good luck.

martinje
03-06-2007, 04:22 PM
Thanks Bigee for the advice, I am looking for the same card that you have and you have had 0 issues with it. I did tell my budies at work you might have won the battle for now but wait till I make some changes on my lappy and see who has the cooler interface.

abf
03-07-2007, 02:53 PM
btw....Ubuntu is NOT going to include Beryl into Fiesty Fawn by default. though many distros already do that (as mentioned before Sabayon, but my personal current favorite PCLinuxOS 2007 does too). Yeah....anyway. I am really disappointed b/c I have ATI so i can't really use AIGLX and XGL is a pain.