Dell Wireless 1500 and Draft-N ... Hey, believe me, I'd love to be doing something wrong, but it doesn't appear to be the case. The card says it's running at 27 ...

WilliamG · 08-15-2006, 12:32 AM

Yay! They both shipped. Will have them either Tuesday or Wednesday.

carlab · 08-15-2006, 09:42 AM

I tried to order as well -- sold out as of Tuesday AM....

WilliamG · 08-15-2006, 09:58 AM

W00t! I can go pick them up from 2pm CST. I was out when DHL came to deliver them. That was fast! Less than 24 hours to my door. I'll be reporting back later!

Sorry they're sold out for you, carlab.

stormlifter · 08-15-2006, 02:07 PM

How can you be hitting 235mb/s??? What hard drive do you have that can write information that fast.

Krayziepop · 08-15-2006, 02:31 PM

Don't know about your drive Stormlifter, but my SATA 60GB 7200RPM clocks in at a nice 304mb/s (or 38MB/s)

WilliamG · 08-15-2006, 02:42 PM

OK just got one of my N cards installed -into my M1710. First impressions = bad.

Yeah yeah the thing reads 240mbit. Big whoop. Tried transferring a 500mb file to my XBOX (which is hard-wired to the N router (Netgear WNR834B) and I topped out at 2.5 mbytes/second, often closer to 1.9 Mbytes. This is from just downstairs, a maximum of around 50 feet from the router. Sure, it's a little faster than what I was getting with the 3945 G card, but only 0.5 mbyte at best.

I then went upstairs, right NEXT to the router, and my speeds barely increased to 2.7mbytes/s.

So no real joy there.

Got the other N card installed, in my M1210, and thought I'd do a file transfer from the M1710 to the M1210.

Result?

Rubbish. Same thing.

Verdict: Waste of time.

Ah well. I knew I was buying into something unfinished. What amazes me is that there really is NO point to Draft-N.

Krayziepop · 08-15-2006, 03:07 PM

Wow, that sucks. Thats equivalent to approx. 21Mbps... My Pre-N RangeMax240 (WPNT834) router with the RangeMax Pre-N PCMCIA card absolutely blows that speed away... From a desktop machine directly wired to the router, to my I9300 with the Pre-N card I can SUSTAIN 90-95Mbps transfers all day long. I would have been almost positive that the mini-pci version could at LEAST keep up with that!

Here is some info from the Dell Support driver page...

http://support.dell.com/support/down...&fileid=171897

Quote:

Important Information

Before installing this device, be sure to update your system with the lastest FlashBIOS from http://support.dell.com.

This device should only be used on the following systems: XPS™ M1210, XPS™ M1710, XPS™ M2010, Inspiron™ E1405, Inspiron™ 640m, Inspiron™ E1505, Inspiron™ 6400, Inspiron™ E1705, Inspiron™ 9400.

WilliamG · 08-15-2006, 03:17 PM

Already using the latest bioses on both systems, though thanks for the tip. I'm really disappointed.

On the plus side though, web-pages, surprisingly, are most DEFINITELY snappier to open, running at 40mhz vs 20mhz (for b/g) perhaps being the reason?

carlab · 08-15-2006, 05:27 PM

Something there cant be right....

WilliamG · 08-15-2006, 05:58 PM

Just got back with the Belkin N1 Draft-N router, and it has even worse performance. Back that goes to Best Buy...

WilliamG · 08-15-2006, 06:18 PM

Hey, believe me, I'd love to be doing something wrong, but it doesn't appear to be the case. The card says it's running at 270mbit (or 135mbit, or whatever it fluctuates and says....) in 40mhz mode. There's really not all that much to set up....

WilliamG · 08-15-2006, 06:38 PM

Also, there are LOTS of options for the 1500 card in device manager. I mean, what is "Afterburner Mode," and why is it disabled? Do I want to enable it, etc?

Lots of options. Anyone?

2006CBR1000RR · 08-15-2006, 06:41 PM

I got a quote from Dell for the card:

<TABLE style="WIDTH: 650px; HEIGHT: 154px" borderColor=#0 height=154 cellSpacing=0 borderColorDark=#0 cellPadding=0 rules=all width=650 borderColorLight=#0 border=1><TBODY><TR style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 1; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.5">Card,Wireless,Minicard,DW1500 Multiple Output (NJ449)</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; PADDING-LEFT: 4px" align=middle>1</TD><TD align=right>$45.95 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

oPossum · 08-16-2006, 07:58 AM

Does the 1500 have two or three antenna connectors?

WilliamG · 08-16-2006, 09:57 AM

Just 2, like the other wireless cards. Black and white cables.

08-15-2006, 12:32 AM	#61
WilliamG Crazed Loon Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,269 Credits: 31	Yay! They both shipped. Will have them either Tuesday or Wednesday. __________________ XPS M1710. - Core Duo 2.0Ghz. 2GB DDR2-667, Seagate SATA 100GB 7200rpm, 512MB Geforce Go 7900 GTX, NEC 6650 8xDVD+-R/RW, Dell Wireless 1500 Draft-N, Bluetooth 350. XPS M1210. - Core Duo 2.0Ghz w/AV Package. 2GB Transcend Jetram DDR2-667, Hitachi SATA 80GB 7200rpm, 256MB Geforce Go 7400, NEC 6650 8xDVD+-R/RW, Dell Wireless 1500 Draft-N, Bluetooth 350.

08-15-2006, 09:58 AM	#63
WilliamG Crazed Loon Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,269 Credits: 31	W00t! I can go pick them up from 2pm CST. I was out when DHL came to deliver them. That was fast! Less than 24 hours to my door. I'll be reporting back later! Sorry they're sold out for you, carlab. __________________ XPS M1710. - Core Duo 2.0Ghz. 2GB DDR2-667, Seagate SATA 100GB 7200rpm, 512MB Geforce Go 7900 GTX, NEC 6650 8xDVD+-R/RW, Dell Wireless 1500 Draft-N, Bluetooth 350. XPS M1210. - Core Duo 2.0Ghz w/AV Package. 2GB Transcend Jetram DDR2-667, Hitachi SATA 80GB 7200rpm, 256MB Geforce Go 7400, NEC 6650 8xDVD+-R/RW, Dell Wireless 1500 Draft-N, Bluetooth 350.

08-15-2006, 02:07 PM	#64
stormlifter Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 255 Credits: -139	How can you be hitting 235mb/s??? What hard drive do you have that can write information that fast. __________________ E1705 > 1.83@1.013v \| WUXGA+ \| 7900GS (560/560) \| 2GB RAM \| Atheros AR5006X WiFi

08-15-2006, 02:31 PM	#65
Krayziepop Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Flushing, MI Posts: 4,765 Credits: 145,754	Don't know about your drive Stormlifter, but my SATA 60GB 7200RPM clocks in at a nice 304mb/s (or 38MB/s) __________________ "Here in the real world they're shuttin' Detroit down..." Last edited by Krayziepop; 08-15-2006 at 02:35 PM.

08-15-2006, 02:42 PM	#66
WilliamG Crazed Loon Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,269 Credits: 31	OK just got one of my N cards installed -into my M1710. First impressions = bad. Yeah yeah the thing reads 240mbit. Big whoop. Tried transferring a 500mb file to my XBOX (which is hard-wired to the N router (Netgear WNR834B) and I topped out at 2.5 mbytes/second, often closer to 1.9 Mbytes. This is from just downstairs, a maximum of around 50 feet from the router. Sure, it's a little faster than what I was getting with the 3945 G card, but only 0.5 mbyte at best. I then went upstairs, right NEXT to the router, and my speeds barely increased to 2.7mbytes/s. So no real joy there. Got the other N card installed, in my M1210, and thought I'd do a file transfer from the M1710 to the M1210. Result? Rubbish. Same thing. Verdict: Waste of time. Ah well. I knew I was buying into something unfinished. What amazes me is that there really is NO point to Draft-N. __________________ XPS M1710. - Core Duo 2.0Ghz. 2GB DDR2-667, Seagate SATA 100GB 7200rpm, 512MB Geforce Go 7900 GTX, NEC 6650 8xDVD+-R/RW, Dell Wireless 1500 Draft-N, Bluetooth 350. XPS M1210. - Core Duo 2.0Ghz w/AV Package. 2GB Transcend Jetram DDR2-667, Hitachi SATA 80GB 7200rpm, 256MB Geforce Go 7400, NEC 6650 8xDVD+-R/RW, Dell Wireless 1500 Draft-N, Bluetooth 350.

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08-15-2006, 09:42 AM	#62
carlab Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 91 Credits: -168	I tried to order as well -- sold out as of Tuesday AM....

08-15-2006, 03:17 PM	#68
WilliamG Crazed Loon Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,269 Credits: 31	Already using the latest bioses on both systems, though thanks for the tip. I'm really disappointed. On the plus side though, web-pages, surprisingly, are most DEFINITELY snappier to open, running at 40mhz vs 20mhz (for b/g) perhaps being the reason? __________________ XPS M1710. - Core Duo 2.0Ghz. 2GB DDR2-667, Seagate SATA 100GB 7200rpm, 512MB Geforce Go 7900 GTX, NEC 6650 8xDVD+-R/RW, Dell Wireless 1500 Draft-N, Bluetooth 350. XPS M1210. - Core Duo 2.0Ghz w/AV Package. 2GB Transcend Jetram DDR2-667, Hitachi SATA 80GB 7200rpm, 256MB Geforce Go 7400, NEC 6650 8xDVD+-R/RW, Dell Wireless 1500 Draft-N, Bluetooth 350. Last edited by WilliamG; 08-15-2006 at 03:26 PM.

08-15-2006, 05:27 PM	#69
carlab Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 91 Credits: -168	Something there cant be right....

08-15-2006, 05:58 PM	#70
WilliamG Crazed Loon Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,269 Credits: 31	Just got back with the Belkin N1 Draft-N router, and it has even worse performance. Back that goes to Best Buy... __________________ XPS M1710. - Core Duo 2.0Ghz. 2GB DDR2-667, Seagate SATA 100GB 7200rpm, 512MB Geforce Go 7900 GTX, NEC 6650 8xDVD+-R/RW, Dell Wireless 1500 Draft-N, Bluetooth 350. XPS M1210. - Core Duo 2.0Ghz w/AV Package. 2GB Transcend Jetram DDR2-667, Hitachi SATA 80GB 7200rpm, 256MB Geforce Go 7400, NEC 6650 8xDVD+-R/RW, Dell Wireless 1500 Draft-N, Bluetooth 350.

08-15-2006, 06:18 PM	#71
WilliamG Crazed Loon Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,269 Credits: 31	Hey, believe me, I'd love to be doing something wrong, but it doesn't appear to be the case. The card says it's running at 270mbit (or 135mbit, or whatever it fluctuates and says....) in 40mhz mode. There's really not all that much to set up.... __________________ XPS M1710. - Core Duo 2.0Ghz. 2GB DDR2-667, Seagate SATA 100GB 7200rpm, 512MB Geforce Go 7900 GTX, NEC 6650 8xDVD+-R/RW, Dell Wireless 1500 Draft-N, Bluetooth 350. XPS M1210. - Core Duo 2.0Ghz w/AV Package. 2GB Transcend Jetram DDR2-667, Hitachi SATA 80GB 7200rpm, 256MB Geforce Go 7400, NEC 6650 8xDVD+-R/RW, Dell Wireless 1500 Draft-N, Bluetooth 350.

08-15-2006, 06:38 PM	#72
WilliamG Crazed Loon Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,269 Credits: 31	Also, there are LOTS of options for the 1500 card in device manager. I mean, what is "Afterburner Mode," and why is it disabled? Do I want to enable it, etc? Lots of options. Anyone? __________________ XPS M1710. - Core Duo 2.0Ghz. 2GB DDR2-667, Seagate SATA 100GB 7200rpm, 512MB Geforce Go 7900 GTX, NEC 6650 8xDVD+-R/RW, Dell Wireless 1500 Draft-N, Bluetooth 350. XPS M1210. - Core Duo 2.0Ghz w/AV Package. 2GB Transcend Jetram DDR2-667, Hitachi SATA 80GB 7200rpm, 256MB Geforce Go 7400, NEC 6650 8xDVD+-R/RW, Dell Wireless 1500 Draft-N, Bluetooth 350.

08-15-2006, 06:41 PM	#73
2006CBR1000RR Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 226 Credits: -292	I got a quote from Dell for the card: <TABLE style="WIDTH: 650px; HEIGHT: 154px" borderColor=#0 height=154 cellSpacing=0 borderColorDark=#0 cellPadding=0 rules=all width=650 borderColorLight=#0 border=1><TBODY><TR style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 1; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.5">Card,Wireless,Minicard,DW1500 Multiple Output (NJ449)</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; PADDING-LEFT: 4px" align=middle>1</TD><TD align=right>$45.95 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> __________________ XPS M1710 * T7400 2.16 Ghz Core 2 Duo * 2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM * 80GB Seagate 7200RPM SATA HD * 8x NEC DVD-RW Drive * 512MB Geforce 7950 Go GTX * Vista Ultimate x64 * 17" LG True Life LCD * Intel 3945ABG * Bluetooth

08-16-2006, 07:58 AM	#74
oPossum Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 27 Credits: -312	Does the 1500 have two or three antenna connectors? __________________ DellBook Pro Turbo Deluxe Special Edition with Cheese (AKA Precision M65)

08-16-2006, 09:57 AM	#75
WilliamG Crazed Loon Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,269 Credits: 31	Just 2, like the other wireless cards. Black and white cables. __________________ XPS M1710. - Core Duo 2.0Ghz. 2GB DDR2-667, Seagate SATA 100GB 7200rpm, 512MB Geforce Go 7900 GTX, NEC 6650 8xDVD+-R/RW, Dell Wireless 1500 Draft-N, Bluetooth 350. XPS M1210. - Core Duo 2.0Ghz w/AV Package. 2GB Transcend Jetram DDR2-667, Hitachi SATA 80GB 7200rpm, 256MB Geforce Go 7400, NEC 6650 8xDVD+-R/RW, Dell Wireless 1500 Draft-N, Bluetooth 350.

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