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Old 02-09-2008, 09:56 AM   #46
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Just wanted to add another benchie for people interested:

HD Tune with 2x Hitachi 200gb 7200rpm in raid 0

Transfer Rate
Minimum 61.2 MB/s
Maximum 98.4 MB/s
Average 85.1 MB/s
Access Time: 15.0ms
Burst Transfer: 70.3 MB/s
CPU Usage 8%

I'm surprised the stats are that different from the 60gb models - especially the CPU usage.
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:07 AM   #47
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Oh this was on stock VISTA Home Premium that came installed and HD Tune 2.54 (latest version)
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Old 02-09-2008, 01:32 PM   #48
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Quote:
Just wanted to add another benchie for people interested:

HD Tune with 2x Hitachi 200gb 7200rpm in raid 0

Transfer Rate
Minimum 61.2 MB/s
Maximum 98.4 MB/s
Average 85.1 MB/s
Access Time: 15.0ms
Burst Transfer: 70.3 MB/s
CPU Usage 8%

I'm surprised the stats are that different from the 60gb models - especially the CPU usage.
HD Tune with 2x Hitachi 60 gb 7200rpm in RAID 0 w/Windows XP Pro.

Transfer Rate
Minimum 9.7 MB/s
Maximum 63.0 MB/s
Average 49.8 MB/s

Access Time: 14.9 ms
Burst Transfer: 47.6 MB/s
CPU Usage 3.3 %

Other than w/the CPU usage, your 200's are a lot faster. The Access Time is the same. I ran the numbers twice, w/the NIC and WiFi shut off, no change.


Here are my numbers running HD Tune in Safe Mode. It's a little bit better, but not much.

Transfer Rate
Minimum 9.4 MB/s
Maximum 69.7 MB/s
Average 54.4 MB/s

Access Time: 14.8 ms
Burst Transfer: 56.3 MB/s
CPU Usage 1.9 %


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Old 02-09-2008, 01:43 PM   #49
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At this point don't order or buy the Gateway from Best Buy at all!!! They're asking $1699 for it now, which is too much. But if you go to the Gateway website and chat with their sales people, you can get the same model with the 2ghz Core 2 Duo for $1399! The only down side is it won't ship until the 1st week of March, but it's totally worth the wait. 400mhz AND $300 cheaper? Oh yeah.

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Old 02-09-2008, 04:54 PM   #50
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Just to make sure nothing hokey was going on with my first test, I ran it again.

HD Tune: Intel Raid 0 Volume Benchmark

Transfer Rate Minimum : 57.9 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Maximum : 94.9 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Average : 80.6 MB/sec
Access Time : 15.2 ms
Burst Rate : 67.7 MB/sec
CPU Usage : 7.5%

Still in the same ballpark as the first run.

I tested with Stock 1.66ghz CPU, Hitachi 200gb 7,200 rpm (RAID 0), Win Vista Home Premium and no other programs running. Again HD Tune 2.54

Basically the only thing changed from stock "out of the box" is the hard disk.
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Old 02-09-2008, 04:57 PM   #51
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About the only negative thing I can say about the Hitachi drives are that they don't seem to have a temperature sensor on them - at least thats what HD Tune says - but they do seem to run fast.
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:50 AM   #52
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Nice review.

CPU upgrade is very worthwhile though and the 8800gts is plenty fast. I don't think Gateway will have a 8800gtx anytime soon, considering Dell is charging almost $700 extra for an SLI upgrade for the GTXs. T5450 CPU (4.7 Windows score, 1m 17.798s Super Pi 2M, 1455 CPU 3dmark06), T7500 CPU (5.1 Windows score, 0m 54. 712s, 1937 3dmarko6 CPU)

For those who are wondering, since this laptop comes stock with a 1440x900 screen, the 3Dmark06 scores are not the standard. The score is from the 1280x800 test.

This laptop in stock form, it's 06 score is about 7000 points. With my upgrades I got 8254 but with a 1920x1200 WUXGA screen and with the standard 1280x1024 res, it hits 7640 points. Oh mine hits 12642 in 3dmark05 but that's an outdated test anyways.

All in all this inexpensive laptop has a very big bite and is definitely worth it. Just have fun upgrading.
Spinitch,

Would you be so kind as to tell me the model number of the LCD upgrade you did? I'm pretty interested in doing this myself, so any info such as model (or even better, what laptop you pulled it out of) would be very helpful...

Thanks!
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:08 PM   #53
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DVSman: Did you have your cache activated?

I found my, I believe it to be the Write Cache, not activated.

I tried activating it, but it doesn't appear to be on, according to that Intel RAID Software.

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Old 02-11-2008, 08:33 PM   #54
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GoHack,

Here is the retest with write caching enabled. My previous tests were done with it OFF. Below is with it ON.

HD Tune: Intel Raid 0 Volume Benchmark

Transfer Rate Minimum : 60.7 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Maximum : 128.7 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Average : 101.1 MB/sec
Access Time : 15.8 ms
Burst Rate : 813.5 MB/sec
CPU Usage : 9.0%
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Here is the retest with write caching enabled. My previous tests were done with it OFF. Below is with it ON.

HD Tune: Intel Raid 0 Volume Benchmark

Transfer Rate Minimum : 60.7 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Maximum : 128.7 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Average : 101.1 MB/sec
Access Time : 15.8 ms
Burst Rate : 813.5 MB/sec
CPU Usage : 9.0%
Boy what differemnce.

How did you get yours activated?

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Old 02-11-2008, 09:49 PM   #56
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I have the Intel Matrix Storage Console installed - I clicked on the raid array in the graphic - right clicked and one of the options was Enable / Disable Volume Write-Back Caching.

So I enabled it, shut down all of my other programs (including Vista Side Bar) and retested.

NOTE: All of my status bar apps are still active - antivrius, webcam app, MSN Live IM, etc.
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Old 02-11-2008, 10:23 PM   #57
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Spinitch,

Would you be so kind as to tell me the model number of the LCD upgrade you did? I'm pretty interested in doing this myself, so any info such as model (or even better, what laptop you pulled it out of) would be very helpful...

Thanks!
My screen came from a Dell Inspiron 1720.
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My screen came from a Dell Inspiron 1720.
Thanks for the info. Any modding or rewiring involved, or was this a drop in replacement?
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ladies/gentlemen -
this is one of great threads in the forum that commands so many enthusiastic inputs. It has been a while since the dinosauric emachine and 74xx series and m505.

BUT it is slowly (or has been) deviating from the section performance - meaning REVIEWS!

May I recommend (& volunteer) that SpinItch - since he is at the moment the owner of a great personalised machine - starts another thread under the Support peer-to peer section where all inputs as modding, upgrading etc ... can be found?

please? so do refrain from contributing posts other than reviews and benchmark in this thread further.

cheers ...
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