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Posted on  09-07-2004, 10:52 AM 
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The ASUS whitebox notebook kit also includes a warranty seal label that can be placed over a heat pipe screw to show if anyone has tampered with the processor after removal.



I guess that's the warrenty seal then, and I do believe that's what I have in the notebook.....

Note: That's not a pic form my notebook, it's from http://www.legitreviews.com/reviews/...ox2/index.html
Does that mean you CANNOT remove the heat pipe without breaking the seal/sticcker?
I am interested for I want to put AS5 and for this I will need to unscrew the 4 screws of the heatsink above the cpu. CPU upgrade is something I will be dealing with in the future.





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Posted on  09-07-2004, 03:21 PM 
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the sticker is about the size of a childs pinky finger nail. it isn't that sticky and seems it can easily be removed and reapplied. i got one but didn't put it on.



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Posted on  09-28-2004, 12:01 AM 
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I'm also having the 'bounce' problem. It was on the upper left of my keyboard. I took my M6ne out to the Asus fixit shop and they swapped in a new keyboard for me while I waited. This mostly fixed the upper left problem, but now there is a similar thing in the far right from the Enter key outwards.

For some reason I can't post attachments any more but I was looking at the pics of the underside of the keyboard here:

http://www.legitreviews.com/reviews/whitebox2/

From the sounds of it, my keys are going through the holes and hitting the metal plate that covers the rest of the innards, cos the noise isn't pressure sensitive. So I'm thinking about installing thin spacers of some sort underneath the keyboard. Anyone tried this or have any thoughts? Or can hazard a guess what those white things on the back of the keyboard are?

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Posted on  09-28-2004, 12:10 AM 
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I noticed that there is quite a bit of bending and "bounce back" on the left and right sides of the keyboard. The center part of the keyboard is fine, as it feels solid when I press keys. The left and right side of the keyboard bends the whole keyboard when I press keys in those areas. The "bounce back" I'm refering to is when there is echo type of noise when you hit the keys (it just doesn't feel solid/secure). Anyone have this problem?

Also, is there any manuals/tutorials around where is shows how to take apart an ASUS M6BNe?
My keyboard exhibits the same characteristics as yours. The left and right sides of my keyboard have a lot of flex. Pressing Tab, Caps Lock, or Shift makes the problem glaring.





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Posted on  09-28-2004, 03:49 AM 
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Okay, problem solved. My keyboard is now consistently quiet in all areas. The problem (if you have it) is that the keyboard is secured in its central section by two screws. You can see where they are by flipping it on the back and noting the two screwholes marked K. This central pressure causes the end sections of the keyboard to lift slightly, so that everytime you press a key down, the weight of your key-stroke bangs the metal on the back of the keyboard against the metal which covers the innards of the laptop.

So I removed the two screws, pushed back the three catches which secure the keyboard and had a look at what could be done. All that was needed was something to be between the keyboard metal and the laptop metal, so I cut up a piece of thin foam of the sort is placed inbetween the screen and keyboard when you by a new notebook. I shaped it to not cover the space where the CPU is, or the memory, and put it in place before re-installing the keyboard. Ah, the bliss of silence.

I was a little bit worried about heat affecting the foam, so I copied a 20GB file to an external hard drive, put iTunes on constant play through the wi-fi card and did a loop of 3DMark01. This got the CPU temperature up to 75, but when I popped the keyboard again the bits where I had the foam were actually still cool to the touch. I may change to some other material, but so far so good.

I don't even know if this would be classed as a mod since the foam is simply held by pressure with no glue (so it is untraceably reversible), but it works great.

Since I write for a living, the keyboard would have started to bug me before long. Now it is just peachy and all is fine with the world again.



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Posted on  10-02-2004, 08:42 PM 
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Okay, problem solved. My keyboard is now consistently quiet in all areas. The problem (if you have it) is that the keyboard is secured in its central section by two screws. You can see where they are by flipping it on the back and noting the two screwholes marked K. This central pressure causes the end sections of the keyboard to lift slightly, so that everytime you press a key down, the weight of your key-stroke bangs the metal on the back of the keyboard against the metal which covers the innards of the laptop.

So I removed the two screws, pushed back the three catches which secure the keyboard and had a look at what could be done. All that was needed was something to be between the keyboard metal and the laptop metal, so I cut up a piece of thin foam of the sort is placed inbetween the screen and keyboard when you by a new notebook. I shaped it to not cover the space where the CPU is, or the memory, and put it in place before re-installing the keyboard. Ah, the bliss of silence.

I was a little bit worried about heat affecting the foam, so I copied a 20GB file to an external hard drive, put iTunes on constant play through the wi-fi card and did a loop of 3DMark01. This got the CPU temperature up to 75, but when I popped the keyboard again the bits where I had the foam were actually still cool to the touch. I may change to some other material, but so far so good.

I don't even know if this would be classed as a mod since the foam is simply held by pressure with no glue (so it is untraceably reversible), but it works great.

Since I write for a living, the keyboard would have started to bug me before long. Now it is just peachy and all is fine with the world again.



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Could you please take a picture of this and post it here? I'd love to see what and how you've done this because the keyboard thins is sort of annoying me too...





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Posted on  10-06-2004, 01:43 PM 
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I can't post attachments to this thread, but have placed a piccie here:

http://notebookforums.com/showthread...321#post473321

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Posted on  10-10-2004, 12:35 PM 
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Thanks Steve...just one question though, is that the thin cloth that comes with the notebook (that thin cloth that covers the screen) or is that just foam?





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I had a similar problem. I put some high temp masking type tape underneath and that got rid of most flex but i was still getting that hollow, echo noise. I also tried foam but that didn't get rid of the problem as much as i'd like. After fooling around with it, it seems that the metal of the keyboard was hitting the metal plate as you said and this was causing a sort of vibration/resonance in my case. So I used what I know about car audio--that is you mass load metal and it prevents resonance. I had this "mastic foil tape" that I got from homedepot. It's thin, and pliable and suitable for temps up to 215 farenheit. I covered the metal plate with the mastic tape and put the keyboard back down. This perfection guys. NO FLEX, NO RESONANCE. It's 100% better. It is used for inulation aplications so I've been running mobilmeter the past 24 hours during normal and gaming use to make sure there were no heat issues. I haven't noticed even a single degree shift!! Anyway, I don't think the metal plate is supposed to act as any sort of heat sink anyway. If you want pics or the type of foil-backed mastic tape i used let me know.

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Posted on  10-10-2004, 03:20 PM 
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If you want pics or the type of foil-backed mastic tape i used let me know.
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sure, post em up!

i'm getting this especially on the sides of the kb. some have said it's because of tightening the screws too tight but mmmmmm.




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Posted on  10-10-2004, 04:02 PM 
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426Hemi,

I just cut up some of the very thin foam that my M6 came with inbetween the keyboard and screen. Matt's solution looks much more professional.
My only concern with something sticky was that I wanted to be able to pull it out easily if I ever need service. Still, I'm happy. There is no more metal clicking when I type and no flex.

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