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Acer Acer Aspire 2020

silver98m3
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I used this site as a place to help me gather information for my notebook purchase, so I'm here to contrbute what I can after making a purchase of the new Acer 2012. This is the 2012 with the Radeon 9700 64MB and DVD+/-RW.

Fan/Quietness: The thing is nearly inaudible when the fan is off. You can barely make out the hard drive working, and unless you are focused on hearing it, you probably won't. If you have the computer running for over an hour or so the fan will occasionally kick in. The tray loading DVD starts with a "whoosh", but isn't that bad once running. It is probably on par with other notebook dvds. All in all, I can't imagine a 15.4" notebook being much quieter than this one.

Build: I notice very little flex across the machine. It looks and feels incredibly sturdy. There isn't one part of the machine that I think looks cheap, or feel there is a chance that it might break off. The casing is plastic, not aluminum like the 2025, but it looks sharp with the silver outer casing.

Appearance: This is my favorite notebook in appearance. The silver accents and notebook lid coupled with the black finish looks fantastic. There are lots of cool lights and buttons that also add a little flair to the machine. In the looks department, this one takes the cake.

Trackpad and buttons: The pad buttons are a little stiff like people mention, but nothing taxing. For general purpose use like web surfing it is a non-issue. For intense gaming, it "might" be an issue. The trackpad works perfectly, and coupled with the 4-way scroll button, I prefer it over the other trackpads with the scroll area on the trackpad. There is no button to turn the trackpad off, but I have not once had a mishap typing because of the trackpad.

Keyboard: It does sit a little high, and the keys require more than a feather's touch, but it works well. No issues with the "ii" "in" or whatever the problem was with the 2000 Acer model. The keyboard feels like it will last. This is my first notebook so it is hard for me to compare the feel of the keyboard to others.

Screen: The screen is very sharp and very bright. The 15.4 WXGA provides more horizontal room than I would have thought. While the screen is not as good as the fujitsu crystal clear, I think it is better than everything else I have seen (all other major models) with the exception of the xbrite and toshibas if you don't mind the glare from those. I personally don't mind te glare, so I would take an Xbrite over this screen, but I'm still very happy with the screen.

Heat: Another great thing about this notebook is that the palm rests NEVER get warm. They maybe don't stay cool like plastic would, but they don't get warm either. I would say that the palm rests go to ambient temp after some useage. All other laptops I tried out had palm rests that would get warm to some degree--this one does not!

This is the only laptop I have used on my lap, so I can't compare to others, so take this with a grain of salt, but it can become uncomfortable on your lap under certain conditions. If it's warm, and you have been using it for a while on your lap, I start to get bothered by it, especially if I have pants on. It's not a painful hot, it's just an uncomfortable feeling, like maybe when you are a little warm because you still have yuor socks on during a warm evening. Same thing.

Performance: Haven't done any tests, so I can't say much, except that it boots much faster than my Athlon 1.7 desktop that will soon enter the junk heap. I have had no crashes or any mishaps in the few weeks that I have now had it.

Included Software: Comes with a licensed version of XP Pro including the cd-rom. Has some software for dvds and music, but I use my own. Not too much to get excited about.

Sound: The speakers are excellent for a laptop. i would compare them to the HP with the bose. They can get relatively loud for laptop spekaers. My only complaint is that at the minimum setting when using the keyboard controls, it isn't quite at a minimum--it's really at 2 steps up. For example, when using media jukebox, if I use the keyboard controls for the volume and set it to one click above off, the volume is at the equivalent level for 2 clicks of volume on media jukebox. When I want the music or sound to be at it's lowest before actually being off, I need to go into the program itself to adjust the volume. Not sure if other notebooks are like this as well.

Another thing to mention is that unlike most laptops with seperate audio controls, this one uses a the arrow keys on the bottom right of the keyboard coupled with a function key to turn the volume up and down. The left and right are for screen brightness, and the up and down are for volume. They are even marked with a blue picture to tell you the function. I think this design works really well and I actually prefer it to seperate buttons you might accidentally press. All of the major functions that involve use of the "Fn" key are labeled on the keys themselves: mute, screen off, hibernate, etc..

Wireless Connection: I had read that the previous Acer had problems connecting at times to wireless networks, the 2012 does not. I have not once lost a connection, and the signal strength is usually excellent with the full 54 MBps. There is a pretty orange button that lights up on the front right of the notebook when the lan is on. You can disable it by pressing it. I have once accidentally disabled it.

Battery life: Haven't really tested it out yet, but the reviews are very good for its battery life.

Did I miss anything? Hope this helps a buyer or two come to an informed decision. Overall, I'm extremely happy with my purchase and I would highly reccomend this laptop. If you are wanting a WXGA with a great video card, I think this is the best lap top out there for someone who wants a truly mobile (read: relatively light [6.6lbs] and long battery life [3-5hrs]) laptop.

Dave

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is it possible to get any performance benchmarks for your new machine? any pics?

great review btw, many thanks.

does this acer load with a tray or by slot?
Great review Dave. I too have the 2012 and I find it to be awesome as well. As far as he casing goes, I think that this is made of the same materials as the 2025 because the weight and measurements are exact across the board. The only difference other than the specs is that the 2012 does not have the media console in the front that the 2025 has and that the 2012 has the tray dvd drive.

As far as benchmarks go, the only one that I ran was 3d2003 and I got a score of 2554. Which is not too bad. I do have to qualify the score a bit since I have upgraded the system to 768 MB ram and 7200rpm hdd.
Hey Silver...congrats on your purchase and i'm glad to see you like it.

I have a 2025 and definitely agree that the bottom gets warm - for me it approaches uncomfortableness when plugged in but isn't so bad when on battery. I don't think that this is anything unusual though, as all my previous laptops got warm on the bottom as well. However, i have to admit it feels like this one gets noticably warmer than i'm used to when on AC. (To me, its more important that the palm rest area stays cool, and it does on these things.)

I have no complaints about the keyboard though - everybody says it sits too far back, but feels fine to me.

With regard to the casing, i'm still not really sure what the material is. I think the case is definitely different on the 2012 and the 2025 (as one example, i think the bottom of your case is black, but the 2025 is silver), but i'm not so sure the 2025 is aluminum. I think that it may be plastic reinforced w/ aluminum (if that's at all possible), b/c i have to say that this is th emost solid-feeling notebook i've owned.
Interesting. So the 2000 series is all aluminum as well? I am starting to lean back towards getting a wide screen notebook again. Having an all aluminum/metal body would be nice as I'm getting accustomed to the great build quality on my 800lci. I need to find a local place that sells one to play around with it .
I'm interesting a buying this computer, ACER ASPIRE AS2012WLMI, I would to know if this model includes the arcade console hardware (i mean front bottoms to play DVD/CDs without to boot the computer), the hard drive 60GB is 7200rpm and the battery how time get HH:mm), thanks for your advice
I'm interested in the 2012 too but I can't find any pics of it closed to see the "different" casing from the 2025, at least to see if there is a different outer appearance. Also, since it does not have that arcade thing, when the LCD is closed, is there anything that sticks out from the bottom of the laptop, or is there still a little display sticking out with the time and flashing words and stuff?
Hopefully you can get some pics up. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Juank
I'm interesting a buying this computer, ACER ASPIRE AS2012WLMI, I would to know if this model includes the arcade console hardware (i mean front bottoms to play DVD/CDs without to boot the computer), the hard drive 60GB is 7200rpm and the battery how time get HH:mm), thanks for your advice
The 2012WLMi does not have the arcade hardware, the hard drive is a 60gb 4200rpm Hitachi/IBM Travelstar 80GN

I've not drained the battery fully, but I would estimate non-gaming/dvd playback time to be around 4 hours, gaming time would be between 1.5 and 2 hours, that's with the screen on medium brightness and the max-power power profile. eg cpu on full speed.

- Odie
Can the hard drive be swapped out for a faster one?
Would anyone mind running aquamark and 3dmark benchmarks on their 2012?
Stats on it, for those unfimilar.
Hey moogleyfive where did you get your 2025? What speed is the hard drive and how is the sound quality using the built in speakers and woofer? Have you got any benchies for the baby? I'm trying to decide whether to splurge on the 2026 (2.0 Ghz Dothan) or not.

Anyone have any comments/comparisons on ACER's stretching technology for fitting 4:3 and 16:10 to the display? How is it different from what you can get with any other widescreen? Is it actually a noticeable improvement?

Finally, how does this compare to the ASUS W1N besides the difference in gpu memory?

EDIT: Didn't someone post that their 2023/5 was set to region 0 on arrival? Does that mean it plays all regions or just that its not set to a particular one on arrival?
will half life 2 run in 2012?
nice review

i'm looking for a notebook with the centrino build with a good card like the mobility 9700

i'll add this computer to my short list
Hey guys... I'm new to this forum, but it seems like you have some good info on here. I'm one step away from picking up a 2012 for myself with the ATI 9700 graphics card. It's essential for me to have extended desktop capability (being able to use two monitors at once, while each displays a different thing). Has anyone had any experience with that or would any one with the laptop be willing to test that out?

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Originally Posted by TechAnimal
Hey moogleyfive where did you get your 2025? What speed is the hard drive and how is the sound quality using the built in speakers and woofer? Have you got any benchies for the baby? I'm trying to decide whether to splurge on the 2026 (2.0 Ghz Dothan) or not.

Anyone have any comments/comparisons on ACER's stretching technology for fitting 4:3 and 16:10 to the display? How is it different from what you can get with any other widescreen? Is it actually a noticeable improvement?

Finally, how does this compare to the ASUS W1N besides the difference in gpu memory?

EDIT: Didn't someone post that their 2023/5 was set to region 0 on arrival? Does that mean it plays all regions or just that its not set to a particular one on arrival?

any news on the possibility of the 2026 coming to the US anytime soon? or is it possible to import it? if not looks like im going with the 2025.
Is the 2012 a banias or a dothan???
I love the Aspire 2010/2020 series laptops. but I have a complaint... The DVD writer is very fussy with the media it chooses! be it the UJ-820(tray load version) or UJ-825(slot load version), the only DVD-R media I've gotten it to write at 4x so far are Sonys and Mitsubitshis, and even those write at 2x for the first 10% before kicking into 4x for the rest of the disc. Upon looking at a burnt disc, I can actually see the colour difference in the areas it writes to at 2x and 4x.

I've read rave reviews of the Ritek G04 discs, and ordered a big batch from Meritline, but even though the disc is recognised as a 4x disc, and is written to at 4x in Nero, it takes a full 30 mins for a full burn, which is actually equivalent to a 2x burn! Piodata and Prodisc medias are only recognised as 2x media as well..

I'm just wondering, have any of you guys noticed this media fussiness, and can you recommend a good, cheaper media that actually works at a full 4x on these burners? (UJ-820/825) The Sonys and Mitsubitshis are somewhat too pricey for bulk use.
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Originally Posted by superzingy
Does it seem like the cpu is upgradeable, or would the motherboard most likely not allow anything besides the 1.5ghz to go inside.

I.E when the dothan chips come down in price, would it be possible to replace the cpu in the 2012 with one of those?
According to the Acer website, the 855GME chipset should support the new Dothan Pentium M's 735/745/755 as well as the 1.5ghz. However, they warn that on some laptops the cpu is glued to the board, and can't be removed! Anybody know whether or not this is true on the 2010? I'd open up mine to see, but I wouldn't know how to tell.
Been lurking here for a few weeks now, trying to work out which laptop to buy. Finally plumped for the Aspire 2023 and thought I’d write a brief review, so here goes.

First impressions
Pretty snazzy looking laptop, although perhaps more so when the lid is closed - the aluminium looks very nice in a we're-not-really-ripping-off-Apple kind of way. Opened up, the machine is very black, with silver trim. A pretty standard colour combination for laptops, and it works well. The widescreen display (1280*800) is excellent - clear, sharp, nice and bright, and with no ghosting. Being able to watch DVDs without annoying black bars at the top and bottom of the screen is very nice, as is the ability to have two documents open side by side without having to zoom out or compromise on the width allocated to each one. The built-in card reader at the front of the machine is a nice touch, and it allowed me to finally get the pictures I took in Greece off my rather decrepit and only semi-functional digicam. W00t. While the case is apparently made entirely of anodised aluminium, the metal is only visible on the lid. This is good - the metal should give the screen rigidity and protection while the machine's in transit.


Ergonomics
Weighing 3kg, it's not the lightest laptop in the world, but it's also not exactly heavy. It'd certainly be fine to carry around on a daily basis. The keyboard's quite good and has a decent amount of travel. However, because the computer has a giant touchpad/mouse button combo (see picture), the keyboard is relatively distant from the typist, which takes a little getting used to. Annoyingly, the function key is where the ctrl key would be on a normal keyboard, which is a little disconcerting - I find myself adjusting the brightness of the screen when all I wanted to do was to jump to the end of a line of text, for instance. Another small niggle is that there are no dedicated 'Home' and 'End' keys - you have to strike Fn-Page Up for home and Fn-Page Down for end. Not ideal.


Sound, noise, and cooling
The machine comes with a dinky little subwoofer built into its base, as well as speakers on either side of the keyboard. The sound's not so much good as not utterly terrible as has been the case with notebooks I've used in the past. In general light use (Firefox, word, winamp, etc.), the laptop makes no noise that is audible when typing (putting my ear right next to the keys, I heard a very faint whirring sound). During CPU/GPU-intensive tasks, the fans kick in - at their highest setting, they make clearly-audible whooshing noise. It's a little intrusive in the absence of other sounds (like the early-rising fool I am, I've been doing my benchmarks at 05:30 in the ayyy-emmm while my girlfriend sleeps, so there's no background noise other than a few determined birds outside the window). However, I suspect that during gameplay, the fan noise would be completely drowned out by the music and sound effects. The fans spin down within a minute or so of finishing gaming/benchmarking. In operation, the machine mostly remains cool to the touch - the underside gets a little warm, as does the right-hand side speaker. However, these aren't exactly areas you're likely to spend a lot of time touching. There's no perceptible heat build-up beneath the palm rests, which is good. The power brick is quite small, and gets warm to the touch very quickly. It doesn't get uncomfortably hot, however, so I'm quite happy with it.


Connectivity
3x USB 2.0 ports, one firewire 400 port (4 pin), a P/S 2 port, VGA out, a parallel port (!), mic in, headphone/speaker out, and a 4-in-1 card reader (SD, SmartMedia, MMC, and one whose symbol I don't recognise). Pretty good - nice to see three USB ports and a P/S 2 so I can connect up a full-sized keyboard and mouse and still have two spare USB ports as well as the firewire.


Performance and benchmarks
With stock drivers and no overclocking, I got
3Dmark2001: 9672
3Dmark2003: 2784

I'm not terribly keen on the idea of voiding my warranty (I want this machine to last me through at least the first couple of years of a PhD, so I'll take stability and guaranteed repairs over a little extra performance), so no OC for me unless a game really needs it. The 2k1 score is a little better than that I get from the GF4Ti 4200 in my desktop, and that runs Far Cry well enough to satisfy me (medium settings, 1024*768). I don't anticipate any problems with gaming.

Less quantitatively, the machine feels very snappy in general use - I certainly don't notice any slowdown compared to my desktop (XP1800+, 512Mb PC2700, 80Gb 7200rpm). Battery life is purportedly 4-5 hours, but I've not yet tested that and don't really anticipate doing so. I needed a machine that can happily be moved from my room to the lab and back, to run off the mains in both places.


Minor annoyances
Aside from the lack of dedicated Home/End keys, there are only two things I'd like to see improved on this laptop. First, while it has a 3.5mm socket for headphones at the front, there's no comparable speaker output port at the back, so if you plan to use the machine at a desk with external speakers, you'll have to put up with having the speaker connection protruding from the front of the laptop. The second thing is Acer's partitioning of the hard drive. While the machine does have a 60Gb drive, it's partitioned into a data partition (FAT32, 46Gb) and a recovery partition (also FAT32, 10Gb), along with a tiny 8Mb partition and a 60Mb partition for the Arcade software. It’s a nuisance having the recovery partition, as is FAT32, but it’s nothing partition magic won’t fix. The slot-loading DVD writer can be a little noisy, but this has been the case with all portable slot-loaders I've encountered, so it's hard to consider it a major flaw.


Specs
1.6GHz pentium-M, 512Mb DDR RAM, 60Gb hard drive (4200 rpm), ATi mobility Radeon 9700 graphics (128Mb), 10/100/1000MB/s ethernet, 802.11b/g Wi-Fi, slot-loading DVD+/-RW/RAM drive, 15.4" widescreen display (1280*800)

Bundled software: Windows XP Home (on recovery disks rather than a proper install CD), Norton antivirus 2004 (nice of them to provide it, although I have to use McAfee VirusScan Enterprise - university network rules), DVD authoring software, and Acer's own Arcade software for DVD playback. This is functional rather than great - I prefer PowerDVD, but meh.

Total cost including tax, delivery, and a three year collect & return warranty with accidental damage cover: £1280 (around $2000 without the British sales tax).


Pictures
These really don’t do the laptop justice – as I said earlier, my digicam is long overdue for retirement. Oh well, so it goes.















Conclusion
I’m very attached to my new laptop. A large part of this is almost certainly new toy syndrome, but it is nevertheless a very capable machine, and should be pretty well-suited to my needs. There are already a few upgrades in the pipeline – the memory comes in the form of two 256Mb sticks. These will be swapped out one by one for 512Mb sticks to give first 768Mb, then 1Gb of RAM. I’d also like to replace the current hard drive with a Hitachi 7k60 and buy a 2.5” external enclosure for the drive currently in the machine to give a total of 120Gb of storage and a little data security via redundancy.
Good review!! I am thinking buying this thing and these reviews helps
Thx.
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