Sager NP5760

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Sager NP5760

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Build Quality

Screen Quality

Battery Life

Aesthetics

Port Placement

Performance

By Luke@NBF

Posted 5/29/06 · 1 View · 12 Comments

NP 5760 SERIES SPECIFICATIONS

(Options in red are the options selected on our demo model)

Processor
Intel® Core™ Duo 1.66/1.83/2/2.16 GHz (677FSB)
2048KB On-die L2 Cache (Meron ready - Core2 Duo)

Core Logic
Intel® 945PM chipset + ICH7M

Memory
512MB expandable to 2048MB Dual Channel DDRII 667

Bios
4MB Flash ROM BIOS

Disk Storage
- Hard Disk Drive
PCI Local Bus Interface
Detachable 2.5” 9.5mm SATA150 Hard Disk Drive
- Built-in 4-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MSPRO/SD/MMC)

Display
17” (16:10) WSXGA+ (1680x1050) or WUXGA (1920x1200)
PCI-Express 16x Video Card
nVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GTX 256MB GDDR3
Dual-View Display Capability

Modular Bay
1 Modular Optical Drive Bay
Interchangeable with DVD/CD-RW Combo drive, DVD±R/RW Combo drive, or 2nd SATA Hard Disk Drive
ATAPI Interface

Audio System
Built-in 8ch Azalia Sound System (with 8 external speakers output without Ext. decoder)
Front Panel AUDIO DJ CD Player with MP3 Support
S/PDIF Digital output
SRS WOW support
1 Built-in Microphone
2 Built-in Speakers

PCMCIA Slot
1 Express Card 54 Slot

Pointing Device
Integrated Touchpad With 4 Way Scroll Button

Keyboard
Full Sized Keyboard with Numeric Key Pad
Windows 95 2 Hot keys
Integrated with Hot Keys for LCD Brightness, Suspend, Panel/CRT Display

Interface
Infrared Communication, FIR, SIR and ASK Compliant
1 DVI Port
4 USB 2.0 Ports
4 multi-function Audio Jacks
1 16c550 Compatible Serial Port
1 RJ-45 LAN (10/100/1000Mbps)
1 RJ-11 Modem
1 IEEE 1394a Fire Wire
1 S-video TV-Out
1 TV-in Port (Requires Optional TV-Tuner Module)

Power System
1 Lithium-Ion Battery (8Cell)
Full Range Auto-Switching 100V/240V AC Adapter

Power Management
System Management Mode (SMM)
Suspend to HDD / DRAM
Full features of SMI Power Management, Doze, Sleep, Suspend/Resume Mode

Physical Characteristic
8.35LBs With Battery
15.6”(w) x 11.5”(d) x 1” ~ 1.8” (h)

Options
Intel 3945ABG 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini-ePCI interface
Built-in Hybrid Digital / Analog TV-Tuner Mini-PCI interface Bluetooth Module
Built-in Digital Video Camera
External USB Floppy Drive
2nd HDD Bracket Module

Whats New:

This is Sager's 1st 17" Intel Core DUO stystem supporting the nVidia 7900 GTX 256MB.

Whats included:

Accesories

1. Phone Cable
2. DVI Adapter
3. AC Power Adapter w/Cable
4. Sager NP5760

Software

1. User's Manual
2. XP Pro OEM Quick Start Guide
3. OEM Windows XP Pro CD(Included with purchase of an operating system)
4. Intel Pro Wireless Software(Included with the purchase of wifi)
5. Nero OEM Suite
6. Bluetooth Software(Included with the purchase of Bluetooth)
7. WinDVD 5
8. Driver CD(Actual CD will look different as this is a prerelease model)

TV Tuner(with the purchase of the TV tuner option)

1. Antenna
2. FlyDVB-T Software
3. Remote
4. Coaxle attatchment
5. Coaxle attatchment

Basic Black Business Case

1. Case
2. Shoulder Strap

The System:

Top

1. Locking Latch(Not Spring Loaded)
2. Latch(SPring Loaded)
3. DJ Audio Pannel

Right Side

1. Headphone
2. Mic
3. Express Card 54 Slot
4. 4-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MSPRO/SD/MMC)
5. 4 Pin Fire Wire
6. 2x USB 2.0
7. Speaker

Left Side

1. Security Lock
2. Speaker
3. Media Drive

Back

1. Exaust Vent
2. Line Out
3. Line In
4. 2x USB 2.0
5. DVI-Out
6. TV-In
7. Modem
8. LAN
9. S-video Out
10. AC Power
11. Serial

Bottom

1. Locking Mechanism for the Media Bay
2. Eject Mechanism for the Media Bay(Releaseing the lock and hitting the eject buttom will release your media bay)
3. Release for the Battery
4. Intake Vent
5. Intake Vent

Keyboard

As usual Sager's 17" systems have a full size Keyboard w/ numeric numberpad.

Touch Pad

1. Touch Pad
2. Side Scoll Bar(Up/Down)
3. Left Mouse Button
4. Scroll Button(Up/Down/Left/Right)
5. Right Mouse Button

Buttons

1. E-Mail
2. Launch Web Browser
3. Programable Button
4. Power Button

Disassembled

1. CPU Heatsink
2. GPU Heatsink

3. Hard Disk Drive

4. RAM

5. Bluetooth Card
6. Bluetooth Connection Cable
7. CMOS Battery

8. Wifi Card

9. TV Tuner Card

Battery

Shown above is the battery with quick release latch.

Battery run time:
Run time was w/ all devices enable screen at max brightness, max volume, and full screen DVD playback.

1 Hour and 42

LCD screen Clearity and Quality

This is the same LCD Sager has been using on all their 17" models as of late.

Out of the box performance Specs

3DMark '05

Score - 8212

3DMark '06

Score - 4681

The CounterStrike Source stress test was run at 1920 x 1200 High detail.

Average FPS - 153.58

Doom 3 Time Demo 1024 x 768

High - 135.1 FPS

Ultra - 132.7 FPS

Resolution: 1280×1024
Maximum quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Research, demo: Research.tmd
Pixel shader: default model
Antialising: From System×
Anisotropic filtering: From System×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 141.61 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 154.21 FPS (Run 2)
Average score = 147.91 FPS
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Resolution: 1600×1200
Maximum quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Research, demo: Research.tmd
Pixel shader: default model
Antialising: From System×
Anisotropic filtering: From System×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 131.77 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 137.25 FPS (Run 2)
Average score = 134.51 FPS

This bench was Guru3D's time demo run on high settings.

Resolution: 1600x1200
Field of View: 90
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Total Frame Time: 92.118 seconds
Number of Frames: 14799
Average Frame Rate: 160.653
Average Frame Time: 0.00622461

12 Comments

FriedToast 3/23/11 at 1:55pm

So I've been working with Tony Huang at Sager recently getting a deal ironed out to get a new machine to replace my embattled 8790.

On the way to work this morning, I got a mail on my cellphone letting me know that my 5760 had been shipped out via USPS. Good to hear. I definitely hadn't expected to hear that for another week or so, actually. And on top of that, I was in a bit of a mood about the whole thing because I'd emailed Tony, but hadn't heard anything, so was thinking that I was in for another long wait (I had extensive troubles w/ communication during the end of the 8790's life and the beginning on the 5760's).

But, the wait is over. The machine is on its way. Hopefully in less than a week's time, I'll be posting pictures and my initial thoughts on the 8790's replacement.

I'm sure I'll be more than pleased considering that I think the Dell 9300 at work is super-fast now that the only thing I've got to compare it w/ is my puny (yet dependable) little Sony FX-120. Before, I grumped @ the 9300 since it couldn't keep up w/ the 8790. Now that I've had time to get used to the slowness of the Sony, I'm sure anything would seem fast in comparison. We'll see. I'm a multi-tasking maniac, so I'm sure I'll have plenty of gruff left for the 5760 if it can't keep up.

So, enough with the preamble. Here's what is on the way:

NP5760C
Glossy 17.0" WSXGA+
Intel Core 2 Duo T7400 4MB L2 Cache, 2.16 GHz, 667MHz FSB
Nvidia Quadro FX 2500M 512MB DDR3 Video Memory
2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz (2 X 1024MB)
100.0GB (7200rpm) SATA 150 HD
8X DVD ± R/RW/ 4X +DL Super-Multi Drive
Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG 802.11a/b/g
Bluetooth
XP Pro with Express Upgrade to Vista Business Edition

I had XP that I could've put on the 5760, but since I could upgrade to Vista for $85, I figured that I might as well go that route.

Judging from the lack of business in the 57xx Support Forums, hopefully I made the correct decision in giving Sager one more chance.

First Impressions
I've got a few pics, but they're at home on the machine (typing @ work on the Dell now), so they'll have to be posted later. Lighting in my house sucks, so the pics aren't as good as I'd like.

Anyway, my impressions after a few days of ownership/usage:

Weight
Heavy! I'd seen a similar model (only config'd w/ a Celeron- blasphemy!!) in Sapporo awhile back. Looked slick. The slick look totally does not project the image of a heavy machine. The 8790 was a heavy brick. Using the Dell 9300, I was impressed at how light it is. And balanced. The 5760 was surprisingly heavy and not balanced. Seems a bit butt-heavy. I haven't carried it anywhere yet. Pretty much came out of the box and then moved around for some comparo pics w/ the Dell, but that's it. Otherwise, it hasn't moved at all. Definitely a true DTR in the weight department.

WSXGA+ Glossy Screen
I was worried about dead/lit pixels. Haven't noticed anything so far. Beautiful screen and the resolution, as I had often guessed, is definitely the sweet spot for me. After using the Dell 9300(WUXGA), the 8790's WXGA screen seemed waaaaaaaay too big. So I figured that WSXGA+ would be the sweet spot. And it IS

Heat
So far, I've only run Civ IV: Warlords on it, but after hours of play with settings cranked up, I haven't noticed any wayward overheating or loud fans disturbing me. No heat-related problems as a result of Civ IV, anyway. I can't stand FPS games, so it might be awhile before I find something that truly pushes the card.
In regards to the palm rests, they are a bit warm, but nowhere near the sweaty-palm problem that the 8790 had. Not even remotely close. If I hadn't had the 8790 to compare it to, I probably wouldn't have even thought to've check the palm rest. That reminds me- I'll have to snag the temp sensor from work and check the palm rests before and after gaming to see what the difference is, if any.
For the time being, heat is not a problem and fans are not loud. All seems very good in that regard.

Keyboard
Keyboard seems to be a bit stiffer than the keyboard on my 8790, even though they appear to be the same exact thing. No complaints. Definitely prefer the Sager keyboard over the Dell's.

Touchpad
Looks cool. Like the little circle doowhammer at the bottom that looks as if it would let you scroll up and down. Make note that I said, "looks as if." There's also a little arrow pointing up and down on the R. side that makes it look like one could scroll up and down with that, too. Once again, an example of, "looks as if." Neither work. Touchpad works. I can move the cursor and tap/select things, but that's it. Round circle jobbie and the Up/Down function on the R. side of the touchpad do not work. Will be using my Logitech MX900 BT mouse for the most part, so it's not a huge problem; but it is annoying that hardware doesn't work out of the box. I haven't checked for driver updates or anything of the sort, yet. So, we have our first

Speed
I was worried about going from a P4 3.4ghz Northwood to a more mobile-minded CPU. Tony Huang even mentioned it on the phone that one just isn't going to get desktop power/speed w/ non-desktop CPUs. I'm not able to do a direct comparison w/ the 8790 since it's long gone, but I can say that it's Fast. No complaints on the speed. Definitely smokes the Dell 9300. It's fast and that, I like

I think I've got problems, tho'. The other day I was ULing pics on Flickr and my Sony FX-120 that was sitting idle nearby started making noises. Bad noises. Someone's jealous. Looks like the 5760 arrived just in time.

Sound
Haven't messed around w/ too many audio files so far, but for the time being, I haven't been disappointed w/ what I've heard. Haven't had any sound problems that the 5720 owners experienced; Keeping my fingers crossed that the sound issues were quashed after that first generation came out.

Can't think of anything else at the moment. Haven't burnt any DVDs and haven't used the cam yet, so I can't mention anything positive or negative about either. SD card reader seems to work well (and fast), so no complaints there.

As it sits now, all is well in the world. Well, borrowing a monitor tomorrow to upgrade my desktop's CPU + mobo, so "all" is less than "well," but 5760-wise, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend this machine. Take that w/ a grain o' salt, tho'- I'm less than a week into it. Let this puppy ripen a bit and then we'll see what I think.

Software Issues
Not the machine's fault, but rather an XP problem, apparently. I can't get some things to run. The other day, I tried to install Google Earth. No problem, right? Not so fast. Double-clicked the executable (which had been used on the Dell 9300 & my desktop previously, so I know it's a good file). Cursor went into the "I'm thinking" mode and then back to normal. Tried again. Same thing. Opened up Windows Task Manager and didn't see anything associated with Google Earth.

Fast forward to this morning. Just before heading to work, I wanted to mess w/ some photos that I'd taken last night, so I clicked on the Picasa icon in the Quicklaunch bar. Cursor went into "I'm thinking" mode and then stopped. I waited a few seconds to see if the Picasa splashscreen'd come up. Nada. So I clicked it again. Same thing- cursor gets busy for a moment and that's it. Went into the Start Menu and tried it that way, too. No go. Worked fine last time I used it. Maybe the machine's grumpy and needs a restart. Or maybe I DL'd an update that makes it reject any Google apps

So first it was Yahoo Widget Engine not installing correctly. Now Google Earth & Picasa won't go. Hopefully a restart when I get home'll fix XP's attitude. If not... any ideas?

Multi-tasking
Was wondering how this machine'd hold up to my persistent nonsense with having a billion things going at once. One word- fantastic. I'd have to hazard a chance and say that it's even faster than the 8790 was. The thing that makes me feel that way is that I've left a running game of Civ IV (Huge map) minimized, a few Explorer windows open (3-4) and a buttload o' tabs open in Firefox 2. Messing around on Firefox, one'd never know that Civ IV was running in the background. I could do the same thing w/ the 8790, but I think there was a small hint of a performance hit, IIRC. So far, I haven't thrown anything at it that it had problems with (other than the wonky not-running bullcrap that it's doing).

Synergi 3/23/11 at 1:55pm

*Cheers* So happy for you sweetie! Can't wait to hear all about your new machine. One day i'll buy another one when I can get power and very little heat into a smaller package.. I think my next one will be 14.1 or 15.4 but 15.4 is the largest i'll ever go for myself again. This one has been perfect as far as me picking it up with one hand and no effort and running all over the house.

Anyway..I hope you got some serious games lined up to test it out with. Did you pick up a Sager extended warranty?

Yang88She 3/23/11 at 1:55pm

nice review and congrats FT...hope you don't run into any issues like you did w/ your old 8790

SteveMB 3/23/11 at 1:55pm

Glad to see someone got a replacement for their 8790!

Blackartemis 3/23/11 at 1:55pm

Nice read, I have a 9300 I am looking to upgrade to the 5760. I was wondering how much you ended up paying for shipping since I am too over here in Asia.

deekjx 3/23/11 at 1:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by FriedToast

Screen
Had one instance of the unit's screen not waking up. I have it set so that the screen turns off after x amt of time. No problem, right? Riiiiiiiight. Got up one morning, moved the cursor around and generally the machine comes right up. Not this time. Nothing happened. I clicked around and it was making noises like it was running normally- I just couldn't see what I was doing. Shut down, restart. Works fine now. Harbinger of Doom? Don't know. Maybe nothing. Will see in time, apparently.

Hmmm, was this just the power level setting for the screen or did you have it hibernate or go into suspend?

Quote:

Scroll Pad
Set to super-sensitive and a pain in my BUTT. No way of altering the settings as they're all grayed out in the options area. Haven't reinstalled the drivers or checked for updates. According to a specific thread on this, Sager has been unable to help with this problem so far. Not going to bang my head against a brick wall quite yet over it. Going to see how it reacts to Vista and then start screaming.

I'm bound and determined to beat this problem. My schedule is very full for the next week but I'll try to get to it this weekend. I have to audit an internal performance lab we are designing for engineers in our comapny. If I have to hack the stupid drivers to get this thing to work, I will.

Quote:

Card Reader
Recently bought a new camera (Nikon D80), therefore I needed a new SD card to go with it. 4gb SD card arrived the other day. Formatted it in my D80 and it worked fine. However, the Dell 9300 wouldn't read it- said it needed to be formatted. So I formatted it in the 9300. Worked fine in the D80, the Dell 9300 and my Canon IXY 700. No problem, right? Wrong. Tried to offload pictures yesterday into the 5760 off of the 4gb card. Won't read it. Reads my other SD cards just fine (256mb Mini + adapter, 512mb + adapter, 1gb Micro + adapter), so I don't know what to say. Haven't had time to check Sager's site for updates. Figure that's next. If that doesn't work... well, dunno. Once again, see if Vista changes anything driver-wise. Plugging the D80's cable into the 5760's USB port allows it to read the 4gb SD card just fine. Go figure.

My iPaq hw6515 smart phone has this problem. HP doesn't plan to do anythign about it. working as designed they say. It'll only recognize up to a 1 gig SD card. I won't be able to test this any time soon as I don't have a SD card greater than 1 gig. Please update us on your findings. I'd like to know if you formatted it with the 5760, how much room does it say is on card. This should tell you what the maximum size the reader can go. Or at least is willing to go with your card.

rickster 3/23/11 at 1:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by FriedToast

Yeah, i've encountered that problem as well. I'm not sure why the screen won't come back. It's only happened to me three times, and I haven't figured out a pattern yet. A restart fixes it, but one time it kept restarting into the BSOD. That freaked me out a bit, but i was able to boot into safe mode, then I scanned my laptop and everything was fine.

Yeah the touch pad is a bitch, but you got to alter the way you type. Besides you had to alter they way you type anyways since the number pad forces your body to the left. That's the only downfall of the number pad, you're not really center with the laptop.

G-Omaha 3/23/11 at 1:55pm

FT,

For many Linus distros, you will need to recompile the kernal, along with support modules for "unique" devices for those devies to work correctly. I'm not sure which devices Ubuntu 6.10 will directly support "out of the box".

From what I've tested, Linux generally behaves well in a dual boot environment and does a good job of harmlessly partitioning the HDD for it and another OS. Unfortunately, I can not say the same for "readjusting" or trying to recover the partitions later on (shrinking partitions caused me great pain at times).

Suntiger 3/23/11 at 1:55pm

Go for Vista, definitely. The BT thing is a bitch, yes, but Clevo just posted BlueSoleil 3.01 for Vista up on their site, so that should solve that, and Vista's worth having. I've had no problems with any of the other drivers.

One other thing: I've got very bad experiences with Acronis Boot Manager (to the point of having to format my drive because it messed itself up and couldn't be removed). Just thought I'd note that.

Computer_Potato 3/23/11 at 1:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by FriedToast

Illegal System DLL Relocation
Windows and their freakin' updates. Had 2 waiting for me when I got home. One was a Windows Defender definition update. Other was a security update (the .ani cursor exploit patch, I'm guessing). Anywho, I DL'd 'em and installed them. It was in the middle of installing when I left the house for a couple hours.

Come back just now and it's giving me the godawful-won't-leave-me-alone-ever Restart pop-up. Ok, fine, since I just got home, I'll do it.

Booting gets me a RTHDCPL.EXE- Illegal System DLL Relocation error.
The system DLL user32.dll was relocated in memory. The application will not run properly. The relocation occurred because the DLL C:\Windows\system32\HHCTRL.OCX occupied an address range reserved for Windows system DLLs. The vendor supplying the DLL should be contacted for a new DLL.

Well, WTF? Where's that come from? Guess I gotta go knock on Realtek's door and see what the problem is.

Hmph.

This other update fixes the problem.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

SEMC 3/23/11 at 1:55pm

I'm still waiting until a few months/year(s) after the first service pack in June (or so they said).

Seems Vista is having teething pains right now. Just a few weeks ago, a client brought in her new notebook she'd bought running Vista Premium. Seems the machine had decided to do a Windows Update on shutdown which had thrashed her user profile and corrupted the ntuser.dat file. Long story short, her computer is working again and the update that had caused this mess was one of the ones that require user interaction (clicking "agree" and "next" during the install). I guess the update service isn't smart enough to not run any updates like this during shutdown where the user has no interaction capabilities.

Avoid these problems, don't install updates during shutdown, its damaged 2 of my clients OS installations now in the last month.

Steve 3/23/11 at 1:55pm

Wow good to hear from you Toast. I love Sagers. They're pretty reliable nowadays.

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