Toshiba Satellite P105

Troyus
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Toshiba Satellite P105-S921 Review


Introduction:

OK, as you probably know, the big deal here is the new Toshiba is A) The first true gaming laptop from Toshiba and B) The first laptop to be fitted with Nvidia's new Geforce 7900GS.

System Specifications:

The P105-S921 is driven by an Intel Centrino Duo (Dual Core) 1.8G CPU. , x512MB 667MHz ram, a 160GB 4200RPM Fujitsu (strange in that Toshiba makes drives of its own as well...)

The monitor is a 17" glossy , and the videocard is the 7900GS. Some new Toshiba features, such as a dual mode touchpad which you can use to launch programs as well as drive the mouse, and a fingerprint ID scanner to login to the machine with, also exist. The ID scanner is pretty cool, letting you scan in up to 20 different fingerprints, allowing mulitple fingerprint users. For more info on specs go visit Toshiba's website on the specs, as I don't see the purpose of me regurgitating specs here.


Chassis Design and Build Quality:

The design quality is acceptable, and while there are a few minor complains I have, they are mostly small annoyances. For one, the ridiculous hotkey buttons built into the laptop, and two, the LED lights which illuminate the Harmon Kardon speaker clusters... They are a little distracting, and might get me some looks at wrok... and I think about the 2 minutes of power they rob from my battery life. But that's just me. The good news is that, for 17" game capable laptop, this is a light machine, weighing in at about 7 lbs. It's also relatively thin, too. This is about as portable as 17" gets.

Screen... There is an average amount of flex to the screen, and the point between the screen hinges (where the TOSHIBA logo resides) is particularly cheesy... Pushing on the Toshiba logo will cause the screen and the frame to bend a bit. That area should have been more reinforced than it is.


Keyboard... is OK. It feels a little different to me than other laptops I have used, but works well, just makes clicky-clacky sounds. Another guy I work with said he liked it, so go figure. He owns a mac laptop anyways. YMMV. There is a bit of flex in it, but nothing too bad. It is also not fully sized... the LETTERS are sized right but some keys, like quotes and other specials chars, are 2/3rd sized instead. Personally don't dig this and whish they would have just put in a full sized keyboard - it looks like they had room to do it if they were inclined to. It does have a numpad though, which is full sized.

Sound... is amazing. As Fujitsu have mastered LCD screen and Dell has mastered 1 day coupon deals, Toshiba has taken audio to a new level with these speakers. I'm not afraid to say that I have what you'd call a golden ear, after countless bands and years of playing and composing... and the fidelity of what comes out of this laptop with regards to sound is far and away, the best I have ever heard on stock speakers.

Performance:

In order to gauge system performance, I loaded 3dMark05. Stock drivers, no tweaks, and this is what you get:

3DMark2005: 6202

While that isn't as high as the 7800 GTX's I have a feeling that if one wanted to overclock this card, they could easily... The laptop does not get very hot at all, even under gaming conditions. There is a fan that will turn on ocassionally, with venting to the rear left side of the laptop. And then there is the 90nm construction of the 7900.. which makes it more overclockable than say, a 110nm 7800.

HDD:
RANDACC: 19.9ms
AVG READ: 25.9 MB/S


Battery Life:

Battery life seems very good, around 2.5 hours initially.

Conclusion:

This laptop meets my expectations. My other (cheaper) option was the MSI-1039 but I finally decided the screen and the videocard advantages of this model compelled me to take the plunge. As a technology consultant, and a gamer (sometimes) and someone who was looking to replace their desktop... it achieves what is required. For someone trying to meet all three goals (Work, Play, Home) this is good stuff, and at $1,850.00 (all inclusive total!), not too badly priced either. For people who want a business laptop, there are cheaper, lighter solutions. For gaming only, a hot running, power sucking 7800GTX in a thick brick of a laptop is the way to go. And for those who want truest of DTR's, you would want a slightly larger keyboard. Thus, a compromise of all three would result in something called the Toshiba Satellite P105-S921.


Pros:

Very portable (for 17") and thin.
Very strong GPU Performance
Runs very cool
Harman/Kardon speaker system (WOW!)
Light relative to features
Fingerprint ID system
Price-Performance ratio very good (1850.00 OTD via Amazon.com)
Looks sleek.

Cons:

LCD screen resolution (YMMV, personally I like this resolution)
Good, but not great, color warmth from screen.
Flexy Screen
Average Build Quality (Fujitsu is better, HP is better. This reminds me of Dell.)
NO "clean" XP CD. (Toshiba will NOT send you an XP CD WITHOUT AOL crap, Yahoo Crap, and alllll kinds of other Crap, preloaded for your disenjoyment.) They even train the technicians to believe that no such XP CD's exist at Toshiba without these programs! lol.

62 Comments

thanks for the review, if my dell e1505 problem doesn't work out i'll probably be saving my money for the toshiba.
Great review Troyus. Now all we need are some nice hi rez pics.
Nice review!

Strange...you have a laptop with a GPU which isn't even listed on nVidia's website.

And a few questions:
1) How is the speed of the HDD? The benchmarks look rather low, even compared to my lappy...much slower.
2) What is the dual-mode touchpad like? And isn't the touchpad a bit small?
3) Do they actually send a Win XP CD at all?

Also, have you run 3DMark06, just so that we could try and compare it to the Go 7800/GTX in the Dell Core Duo/Solo forum.

Thank you!!!
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Originally Posted by martino
Strange...you have a laptop with a GPU which isn't even listed on nVidia's website.
"Available models: GeForce Go 7900 GS, GeForce Go 7800 GTX and GeForce Go 7800"

http://www.nvidia.com/page/go_7800gtx.html
Great review but i have some questions ....
You are comparing this lappy to other companies like dell, fujitsu - did u own any of those laptops, because the screen and built quality on toshibas is TOP NATCH .... I own P25 s676, qosmio G20 and those are the best built laptopts EVER as well as screen quality It just feel wierd that sudenddly toshiba puts bad LCD and bad built quality ... Definatelly better than my xps2 .... .... so just wanna make sure it is just your preferance or is it relly bad
Ohhhh and HP definatelly has not better built quality from toshiba ... no way ....
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Originally Posted by Troyus
Anything else let me know... if you REALLY want pics I could do it but man I am lazy about that stuff... I will say it looks better in person then on the website!
One other question. How do you compare the weight of this laptop to some of the other laptops you've used? I know you said 7.1 lbs but sometimes it's helpful to get an idea of your opinions compared to other laptops. Do you find that you can fit this in a backpack or a bag?

Appreciate your great review! Really helped me with whether I should get this laptop. If you can provide us with some pics, it would make this review even better!!

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Originally Posted by Troyus
One plus side to Toshiba, I didn't take a phone trip to India. Not that I have it in for Indians, great culture andf history spanning thousands of years... but if I can't understand you over the phone, and you can't understand me over the phone, then why are we having a phone call. This was a big reason why I passed up Dell.
Toshiba uses foreign call centers as well as Dell.
helllo congratulation for your toshiba

sorry
i have a question :=
3DMark2005: 6202

3DMark06 (Stock system, no optimized drivers): 3766


stock =375/1000?????????

lunch a optimal performance......pls......
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Originally Posted by Troyus
To be honest I'm not sure where to get optimized drivers for this videocard as of yet, since it's pretty new right now. Any ideas, anybody?
Hy...
First of all take a look in Video Card Clock Settings Tablet and post your default core clock and memory clock.
Than you can try to use the "Detect Optimal Frequencies" button for find the best core/memory clock for your "great" vid card. Than, with the new settings, try to relaunch 3dmark2005 benchmark and post your new score.

Thanks in advance...
did I miss the pics?........
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Originally Posted by Troyus
I need to find my camera, not sure where it is, I'll get to it this weekend for sure (unless the surf is really good.)

Part of the problem is that if I have time to take pictures of my laptop I'd rather spend it gaming on the thing!

it shouldnt be too long, i have taken many pics of mine and they can be done fast...
why a 4200 serial-ata?!.. i think its the only thing that sux!!!...
yeah the 1710 is a good $1000 more fully loaded, that 512mb vid card is nice; but it seems to be limited to 2 gigs of memory while the Toshia is 4GB.

I just don't know, the guys at work would kill me if I got a Dell since we sort of compete with them, but damn I really want to play some cool ass games soon at full res.
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Originally Posted by fullOut
when i saw p105.. why not.. it have an 7900 gs same m1710 cheaper model.. but... a 4200 realll sux..

well.. as your question ... i dont think that have any magic to get better... only way is replacing... which is sux, isnt!!?

You can customize a P100 on the Toshiba web site.
did any one notice on Toshibas web site the .pdf of the modle says 256,512,2048 so-dimms but no 1024 dimms.I was wondering if that was a typo.
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Originally Posted by fullOut
why a 4200 serial-ata?!.. i think its the only thing that sux!!!...
Probably becasuse they wanted to thow tons of storage space in there and the only options for a 160GB HDD at the present are a 4200 and a 5400. They probably went with the 4200 to make a price point (keep the unit "under" $2k. Also, I don't know if Toshiba Storage manufactures a 5400rpm 160GB drive or Toshiba has contracts with anybody that does. Besides, the performance should be pretty high due to the high density of the drive so it shouldn't be THAT big of a deal. Besides,HDD's are all too easy to swap out so you could just wait until a 7200 rpm drive comes along and swap it for that then.
Any news on when P105 will release in Canada? (In particular the model in subject?)
regarging the p105-s921

in Poland there is P100 typology with p100-221 being the top of the line (t2500 core duo, media center xp, 7900gs and 5400rpm 120gb drive). As far as my research will have the same body as Yours p105 -> that is why i want to ask --> are the speakers enough loud and clear to listen to music and movies at home and what about the placing of the speakers are they beeing blocked by wrists while working on this laptop ?
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Originally Posted by Fidget
yeah toshiba generally has great speakers
You are right Fidget.... "generally" (I heard other models) but maybe the BIG exception are mine , Toshiba A60...smallest sound ever and the volume knob allways get dirty... Otherwise, my notebook is a great workhorse, very reliable