No Stereo Mix/Wave Out recording option on Gateway MT6821 with Vista pre-installed

[midimykeys]

I have exhausted every attempt to get some kind of resolution to this problem. I make music for soundtracks utilizing virtual pianos and sound generator programs. While the purchase of this Gateway MT6821 notebook was specifically for these purposes, I am unable to record any sound that the computer generates (sound generating program and recording program open at the same time). The reason for this is simple: no "stereo mix" or "wave out" option appears in the "recording" tab in "sounds". I checked "show disabled devices" and "show disconnected devices" and there is still nothing. To make things worse, I called Gateway, Microsoft, and Gateway again. No help or knowledge was available. I went back to the store where I made my purchase, and found that not one Gateway laptop had this feature (all the Toshibas did). Gateway said that there is no update for my soundcard. I'm really stuck here, I can't take my computer back because I waited too long to open it, assuming the sound properties worked as they did on my other Gateway and HP both running XP. Temporarily, I rigged my headphone and mic jack, but the quality needed is not present. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

[denb45]

Originally Posted by midimykeys

I have exhausted every attempt to get some kind of resolution to this problem. I make music for soundtracks utilizing virtual pianos and sound generator programs. While the purchase of this Gateway MT6821 notebook was specifically for these purposes, I am unable to record any sound that the computer generates (sound generating program and recording program open at the same time). The reason for this is simple: no "stereo mix" or "wave out" option appears in the "recording" tab in "sounds". I checked "show disabled devices" and "show disconnected devices" and there is still nothing. To make things worse, I called Gateway, Microsoft, and Gateway again. No help or knowledge was available. I went back to the store where I made my purchase, and found that not one Gateway laptop had this feature (all the Toshibas did). Gateway said that there is no update for my soundcard. I'm really stuck here, I can't take my computer back because I waited too long to open it, assuming the sound properties worked as they did on my other Gateway and HP both running XP. Temporarily, I rigged my headphone and mic jack, but the quality needed is not present. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

I'm sorry to say that the Stereo Mix/Wave Out feature is NOT included in VISTA, you have to buy a Notebook soundcard device, if you want that in VISTA, there's a tweak for this feature in XP ONLY........... for the SigMatel Audio........... I use the Creative Audigy 2Z Notebook PCMCIA Sound Card ,and I've had it on 2 Gateway Notebooks, still works like a charm, you can get this for around $70 to $80 Dollars it works w/ XP & Vista, but you'll have to download the Vista Drivers for this, here's a good review on how it works:


http://reviews.cnet.com/Creative_Sou...-31156120.html

Here another PCMCIA Sound Card it's called the INDIGO IO DJ it also works w/ XP & Vista this cost a little more and runs around $150 to $199 I hear it's EVEN BETTER than Creative.........

http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/Ca...goIO/index.php

[mtimenova]

you have to buy a Notebook soundcard device

With DELL INSPIRON 1300 and VISTA ULTIMATE you can install the LG Notebook SigmaTel Sound Driver FOR WINDOWS XP and enjoy STEREO MIX without problem.

[denb45]

Originally Posted by mtimenova

With DELL INSPIRON 1300 and VISTA ULTIMATE you can install the LG Notebook SigmaTel Sound Driver FOR WINDOWS XP and enjoy STEREO MIX without problem.

Well that's Good News.........as, I only see DELL trying to FIX this problem with Vista, too bad no other OEM's have Stepped-Up-to-the-Plate but, if they want to sell PC Systems, looks like they have no choice

[Ezradv]

Well I don't know if this applies to Vista but here is how I solved the problem with my XP installation on an IBM that had no Stereo Mix on the record side, only Mic in.

Basically the software (driver) is built to do everything including Stereo Mix. They are all that way. Well most of them are as it's much easier to design a driver to do everything and then disable functions in a config file. Redesigning a driver is very expensive. Disabling the Stereo Mix is a requirement that is artificially imposed so you don't capture (stea) audio streams.

For my particular driver which is a SoundMax driver (used im many PCs) the process should be very similar so this should work for most Laptops, Again I'm using IBM as an example.

I went to the IBM/Lenovo site and redownloaded the driver.

I saved the driver

I ran the .exe file and it extracted files into the C:\DRIVERS\WIN\Audio directory and 6 sub directories

look in the C:\DRIVERS\WIN\Audio\SMAXWDM\W2K_XP directory

look for a file named ADIHDAUD.inf file and double click on it to open it in Notepad.

This file dictactes how your audio driver is installed. part of the instructions in this file tell the installation to DISABLE stereo out. Lets change that

Be careful not to change anything in this file that you don't want to.

Look at line #270 of the text file (or you can also just use the find feature in notepad and search for "disable")and you will find an entry:

HKR,AD1984\\Disable, OutR, 1, 01 ;; Disable Stereo Mix Capture Node

Change that to

HKR,AD1984\\Disable, OutR, 1, 00 ;; Disable Stereo Mix Capture Node

By changing that 1 to a 0 you are now going to have an install that installs Stereo Mix

Save the file

Uninstall the sound driver (requires reboot). when you reboot is will say windows found the sound card. Hit cancel.

Install the new driver from running setup.exe from the C:\DRIVERS\WIN\Audio directory.

reboot

I had to then run the setup again. Not sure why but I did.

Reboot.

You are done.

I've done this on my gateway too and it worked.

There is a bunch of other stuff disabled in that .INF file but I didn't mess with that.

Good Luck

[generalsu]

I did exactly what you wrote below and yet when I tried recording stereo mix, there's no sound. Can someone help me? I am using Lenovo Thinkpad T61p.

Originally Posted by Ezradv

Well I don't know if this applies to Vista but here is how I solved the problem with my XP installation on an IBM that had no Stereo Mix on the record side, only Mic in.

Basically the software (driver) is built to do everything including Stereo Mix. They are all that way. Well most of them are as it's much easier to design a driver to do everything and then disable functions in a config file. Redesigning a driver is very expensive. Disabling the Stereo Mix is a requirement that is artificially imposed so you don't capture (stea) audio streams.

For my particular driver which is a SoundMax driver (used im many PCs) the process should be very similar so this should work for most Laptops, Again I'm using IBM as an example.

I went to the IBM/Lenovo site and redownloaded the driver.

I saved the driver

I ran the .exe file and it extracted files into the C:\DRIVERS\WIN\Audio directory and 6 sub directories

look in the C:\DRIVERS\WIN\Audio\SMAXWDM\W2K_XP directory

look for a file named ADIHDAUD.inf file and double click on it to open it in Notepad.

This file dictactes how your audio driver is installed. part of the instructions in this file tell the installation to DISABLE stereo out. Lets change that

Be careful not to change anything in this file that you don't want to.

Look at line #270 of the text file (or you can also just use the find feature in notepad and search for "disable")and you will find an entry:

HKR,AD1984\\Disable, OutR, 1, 01 ;; Disable Stereo Mix Capture Node

Change that to

HKR,AD1984\\Disable, OutR, 1, 00 ;; Disable Stereo Mix Capture Node

By changing that 1 to a 0 you are now going to have an install that installs Stereo Mix

Save the file

Uninstall the sound driver (requires reboot). when you reboot is will say windows found the sound card. Hit cancel.

Install the new driver from running setup.exe from the C:\DRIVERS\WIN\Audio directory.

reboot

I had to then run the setup again. Not sure why but I did.

Reboot.

You are done.

I've done this on my gateway too and it worked.

There is a bunch of other stuff disabled in that .INF file but I didn't mess with that.

Good Luck

[ssmanian]

Originally Posted by generalsu

I did exactly what you wrote below and yet when I tried recording stereo mix, there's no sound. Can someone help me? I am using Lenovo Thinkpad T61p.

I have exactly the same issue, using a T61p, XP, SoundMax HD. Followed the instructions to get the stereo-mix to show up but cannot record anything at all.

Did any of you found a solution to this issue?

[qhn]

this might or might not work

. right click on the speaker icon
. -> "Recording Devices"
. select "Recording" tab
. right click and select "Show Disabled Devices"

u should (hopefully) see the stereo mix/wave hidden options

cheers ...

[generalsu]

The stereo mix does appear on my recording mixer tab. The big problem is when I try to record stereo mix, there's absolutely no sound even when I know there's sound playing on my computer. Again I am using a Thinkpad T61p from Lenovo. My sound is SoundMax HD Audio.

Originally Posted by qhn

this might or might not work

. right click on the speaker icon
. -> "Recording Devices"
. select "Recording" tab
. right click and select "Show Disabled Devices"

u should (hopefully) see the stereo mix/wave hidden options

cheers ...

[qhn]

[quote=generalsu;2735753]The stereo mix does appear on my recording mixer tab. ../QUOTE]
u have no "Show Disabled Devices" option under this tab?

cheers ...

[generalsu]

I don't see any "Show Disabled Devices" anywhere when I left click or right click.

When I try to record in stereo mix, there's absolutely no sound. This Soundmax HD is worse compared to the older AC97 integrated sound card.

[quote=qhn;2735961]

Originally Posted by generalsu

The stereo mix does appear on my recording mixer tab. ../QUOTE]
u have no "Show Disabled Devices" option under this tab?

cheers ...

[qhn]

Originally Posted by generalsu

I don't see any "Show Disabled Devices" anywhere when I left click or right click.

bad news

Originally Posted by generalsu

When I try to record in stereo mix, there's absolutely no sound.

i u have no stereo mix option, why would u insist on recording with it???? so do u or do u not have a stereo mix option??

Originally Posted by generalsu

This Soundmax HD is worse compared to the older AC97 integrated sound card.

i doubt it, just because u do not have the OPTION in stereo mix, does not mean that one card is worst than the other

most manufacturers hide or disable this option in compliance with drm dingy, we all try to look for a workaround, but until they heard enough from end.users, we all have to wait

give us more info on ur comp and steps, share with us ur trying so far, and see

cheers ...

[qhn]

found this
http://www.sltstudios.net/node/11

want to give it a shot?

cheers ...

[generalsu]

I already did try that before I even posted in here. I don't think Soundmax HD Audio cards have the ability to record stereo mix.

Originally Posted by qhn

found this
http://www.sltstudios.net/node/11

want to give it a shot?

cheers ...

[qhn]

i know many instances where users have no issue with soundmax HD card and stereo mix. it is always coming back to drivers + comp manufacturers when these dingy occur.

want to list out everything u've done so far? it would save post readers not to doubletake the effort

also, why dont u try to put ur vista back and use the above suggestions and see if u can get ur stereo mix to work?

cheers ...