HOW-TO: Wireless Dial-up

[SSDA67]

Originally Posted by findme

:O people still use dial-up? even with all those comericals on the tv saying go to bell south ,comcast, and all those other things that gives speeds 400 times faster than dial-up for 40-60 bucks a month.. amazing.

but its a good guide but i dont know anyone who would use it unless to learn how to hook up wireless dialup.

Believe it or not there are some places that the HIGH-SPEED cannot be received yet..
It SUCKS.I was that way and pay out the wazoo for mine.The place I finally got my HIGH-SPEED through is the ONLY one offered to me.
SSDA67

[n9mfk9]

hi mich43l
thanks so there not a way to map ports on the route with ics up also if the dhcp is on does ics work ok
thanks beau

[DDDa]

Originally Posted by findme

:O people still use dial-up? even with all those comericals on the tv saying go to bell south ,comcast, and all those other things that gives speeds 400 times faster than dial-up for 40-60 bucks a month.. amazing.

but its a good guide but i dont know anyone who would use it unless to learn how to hook up wireless dialup.

And remember that there are people from other countries here, too. I doubt you will find a 4mbps connection widely available is Africa. Fortunately, I use broadband (600k), but still pay a considerable amount of money for it.

[mich43L]

Originally Posted by n9mfk9

hi mich43l
thanks so there not a way to map ports on the route with ics up also if the dhcp is on does ics work ok
thanks beau

I believe there is a way to do port mapping in windows xp ics settings. If dhcp is on both the ics server and the router, ics may work but you won't be able to see the ics server on windows network. What exactly are you trying to do? The setup I described is most basic.

Originally Posted by findme

:O people still use dial-up? even with all those comericals on the tv saying go to bell south ,comcast, and all those other things that gives speeds 400 times faster than dial-up for 40-60 bucks a month.. amazing.

We tried satellite a while ago. We got tired of how unreliable it was. Dial-up is king where we live.

[Jwolf24601]

It will not work on newer Netgear routers, there's no way to access the router unless you have it hooked up to a cable/dsl modem.

1. What routers do you recomend?

2. Will a wireless access point work?

[mich43L]

Originally Posted by Jwolf24601

It will not work on newer Netgear routers, there's no way to access the router unless you have it hooked up to a cable/dsl modem.

I don't believe that. How do they expect you to configure the router for dsl/cable before it works. Even if what you say is true, you can plug in the ethernet cable coming from the ICS desktop to the Internet/WAN port on the router to emulate the cable/dsl modem and the access the settings. The reason why I said in the tutorial to plug in the ethernet cable to one of the LAN ports on the routerr is to put the ICS server on the network in order to share files and controll the dial-up properties.

2. Will a wireless access point work?

A simple AP will not work. It has to have NAT software to do private to public port mapping.

[Jwolf24601]

Well according to the manuals and tech support, Magic gnomes jump out of the router and set up the network once it is plugged into a cable/dsl modem. (supposedly automatically sets itself up)

When I pressed the issue with tech support they told me to return the product, and informed me that it says "cable/dsl connection" is one of the requirements on the box. Which it is.

I tried some google searching for emulators after just plugging my nic into the Internet slot didn't work, but I could not find any emulators.

Do you have/know of one I can try?

[vz2487]

This is crazy, why would you even do this

[mich43L]

I wish I could moderate this thread so I could delete garbage posts like the above - answered in the first paragraph.

[Jwolf24601]

Yeah, for me it's not just dial up though it's Verizon wireless mobile broadband through a PCMCIA card.

It's been a major headache for me. Especially since I can't put the card in our laptops as they are new dells with only expresscard slot.

Dell is releasing an expresscard modem for Verizon in the next few weeks (it's for sale now on thier site, but 1-2week shipping delay)

And If I get the expresscard modem I wont be able to use it in my home PC, which has a PCI to PCMCIA adapter to use the current card. As far as I have seen there are no PCI to Expresscard adapters, and the USB to Expresscard adapter is way expensive.

I doubt Verizon is going to let me use both cards with one account.

By the way I have a Netgear WGU624 router. I bought it hoping to be able to set it up o 5.8ghz to avoid interfering with the wireless broadband modem that operates on the 2-2.2ghz cell phone band.

Let me know if you can find any info on emulating a cable/dsl modem please Mich43L

[mich43L]

I'm pretty sure that if you perform ICS on the PC that does dial-up and share it through the NIC directly to the Internet/WAN port, the router won't know (other than the speed) if the source is dial-up or cable. I've done this before with the linksys routers. The only possible problem is that your router cannot give out LAN IP's in the form 192.168.0.x because that'll conflict with the WAN IP (192.168.0.1). Or just take the router where you have broadband access and configure it there.

[Jwolf24601]

I tried, unfortunently the router is supposed to connect to the internet when you plug it into the cable/dsl and update itself/perform setup. It wont do this when I use the computer in the internet input, even with ICS on.

I am at the point were I'm almost ready to run cat 6 through my 150° attic and instal a bunch of rj45 plates and use a hub.

Perhaps I will look for some linksys routers on ebay when I get home though.

Recomend any /g ones for this type of setup?

[mich43L]

Im using the regular linksys WRT54G (v.3) for my main setup. The GS will work too.

[Jwolf24601]

thanks for the info I'll look into getting one cheap.

Sucks I spent $100 on this Netgear one and can't return it. Dont think i'll buy anything from them again.

I'm still not buying from D-Link from having so many problems with thier NIC's back in the 90's :P

Guess Linksys is what's left haha.

[amd-xile]

Thanks, mich43l.

Working with a Linksys WRT54G (v.5) router I created the wireless dialup as you described. I have to reiterate for all people: check your firewall settings (turn the firewall off) if you are having problems.

Also: the router's documentation said it would not work with dialup, but, like mich43l said, the router doesn't care where the internet connection comes from, just so long as it is there. I simply connected to the internet via dialup before running the router's setup CD. I think it may have required a couple of tries because the firewall (McAfee) was complaining (because I forgot to turn it off), but eventually, after I turned the firewall off, it accepted it as if it were a high-speed connection.

Finally, once I'd followed all of mich43l's directions, I had to figure out how to put the McAfee firewall back up while not blocking the client computers. I did it by telling the firewall to allow all transmissions from the IP addresses for the two client machines, XP's ICS (which again is the unalterable 192.168.0.1), and the router's IP address. I don't know whether this is the best method, but it certainly works.

FWIW, I needed the wireless dialup b/c I sometimes share with my parents, who only have dialup, and my dad and I have wireless notebooks, so, it's just easier than fighting for a seat at the desktop.

Thanks again!