Acer Aspire 1363WLMi

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Overview

The Acer Aspire 1363WLMi is a budget laptop on steroids, available for £760 inc VAT in the UK. What's nice about Acer's range is that you can choose a full-featured laptop like this in terms of screen, RAM, disk capacity, optical drive capability, and WI-FI, without blowing the budget by having those features tied to the latest (and most expensive) processor ranges. It's the best value laptop deal I've come across.

Specifications

Mobile Sempron 3000+
512Mb RAM
60Gb disk
DVD+/-RW
15.4 inch, 1280x800 wide screen display
GeForce FX Go5200 with 64Mb dedicated RAM
10/100 wired LAN
802.11b/g wireless LAN
Windows XP Home with SP2 pre-installed

The fullest spec sheet I've found, which includes optical drive format compatibility and supported read/write speeds, is (strangely) here:

http://www.vdhsoft.be/specs/20880.htm

To get a feel for what the laptop is like physically, take the virtual tour link on this page:

http://global.acer.com/products/notebook/as1360.htm

CPU Performance

AMD's Mobile Sempron seems to be a good compromise processor for a budget laptop. In terms of out-and-out performance, the 3000+ looks like a match for the highest-spec and highest-premium Pentium M's available today (1.7-2.0GHz). It can't match the battery life of a Pentium M, but at the same time it's more practical than a transplanted desktop processor, running cooler than the latter and yielding a battery life somewhere between the two.

Sandra 2004 CPU Arithmetic

Dhrystone ALU : 8284MIPS
Whetstone FPU : 2845MFLOPS
Whetstone iSSE2 : 3688MFLOPS

The Sempron matches a 2.0GHz Pentium M on this benchmark.

Sandra 2004 CPU Multi-Media

Integer : 17182
FP : 18311

The Sempron matches a 1.8GHz Pentium M on this benchmark.

Sciencemark 2.0 Beta

Molecular Dynamics: 103.4 seconds

The Sempron matches a 2.0GHz Pentium M on this benchmark.

Super PI

1M: 53s
2M: 1m59s

Reports vary, but this would seem to put the Sempron roughly on a par with a Pentium M 1.8

System Performance

I tried and failed to run PCMark04 (some kind of DivX configuration problem), so all I have to offer is a couple of file system benchmarks that put performance about where you'd expect a well-configured 4200 rpm drive to be.

Sandra 2004 File System

Overall: 24MB/s
Average access: 12 ms (est)

HD Tune
HD Tune: IC25N060ATMR04-0 Benchmark

Transfer Rate Minimum : 14.2 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Maximum : 27.1 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Average : 21.7 MB/sec
Access Time : 18.1 ms
Burst Rate : 69.3 MB/sec

Graphics Performance

I didn't expect great things from the Go5200, so I wasn't disappointed by its poor performance on benchmarks exercising newer DirectX features. This was never going to be a machine for the hardcore 3D gamer.

3DMark2001 SE

Overall: 6926

3DMark2003

Overall: 1290
CPU Score: 491

Aquamark3

GFX 768
CPU 7261
Overall 7300

First Impressions

What you get

First impression out-of-the box was that this was quite a hefty laptop. It's approximately the same width as an Amilo A1630, but an inch deeper and half an inch thicker. It's the same weight as the Amilo, though, and that coupled with its extra volume somehow conspire to make it feel lighter than you expect when you pick it up. Build-wise, it feels pleasantly solid.

The keyboard is comfortably placed for typing, and the touchpad has a good feel. The keyboard isn't perfect - slight vertical travel towards the centre, and daft Pg Up/Down placement among them - but nothing I haven't already got used to. The touchpad buttons are apparently notoriously on the stiff side on many Acer machines, and this one is no exception. My workaround has been to program everything onto the touchpad itself (e.g. using tap zones), and that done I never go near the buttons at all.

In addition to the laptop itself and its battery (fully charged), the box contained the power supply, Windows XP license bumf and a full set of recovery CDs, a copy of Norton AntiVirus on CD, and some rather terse manuals.

Screen

Having booted it, run through the XP setup, and logged in, it then kicks off some aditional Acer-specific setup. This installs various bits and pieces, then sets the display to its native resolution of 1280x800. The screen looks gorgeous; bright and sharp, viewable from a wide range of angles, and with all pixels present and correct. It's as good as any I've seen, and not at all washed-out like some other wide-screen laptop displays I've looked at. I'm not particularly fond of the new wave of highly reflective displays, though, so my opinon on this could be unrepresentative.

Disk

The disk is split evenly across two FAT32 partions, plus a small system partition containing a restore image. Still deciding whether to bother to reformat one or both of them to NTFS.

Networking

Both wired and wireless LAN now work fine on my home network. It successfully established an 802.11g 54MBs link with my wireless access point, and 802.11b fallback works fine too.

I did have a problem for a time with periods during which the wireless link would seem to go up and down like a yo-yo, a problem which the other two laptops on the same network didn't seem to share. Windows update offered me a driver upgrade which I took, and since then the problem hasn't come back. Fingers crossed anyway. I use a slightly unusual wireless access point (an Apple AirPort Express) and it's quite possible that those with more mainstream hardware wouldn't suffer the same way with the pre-installed drivers.

Optical drive

It took some time to track down concretely what the optical drive supports and what it doesn't (see link above). To date all I've done with it is written a few audio CDs from iTunes, a DVD-R backup disk at 2x, and some DVD+R backup disks at 4x. I did experiment with higher write speeds, but 2x max to -R and 4x max to +R seem accurate.

Battery life and heat

I've gone through a battery cycle with it many times now, each time connected wirelessly for the duration, typically doing a mix of tasks including browsing, downloading and installing software, and running the odd benchmark. Average work time to the 10% warning has been in the region of 2 and a quarter hours. This is with the laptop left in the Portable/Laptop power mode, allowing the CPU to throttle up on demand. I guess with WI-FI powered down and power mode set at Max Battery something close to the 3 hour battery life quoted may be achievable.

[Later...] Just for completeness, I finally had occassion to play a DVD on battery and it managed to make it to the closing credits of Matrix Revolutions (but only just). So about 2 hours DVD playback.

I have to say it doesn't take that much to set off the fan. You can browse, and you can edit documents, and you can play music through iTunes for long periods in absolute silence, but much beyond that the fan will make itself heard. The fan noise isn't over intrusive, however. Even under stress the cooling seems to be able to cope comfortably, and any warming is limited to the rear of the machine. The keyboard and wrist rest areas don't heat up at all.

Conclusions after a month's ownership

First my requirements:

0. As cheap as possible
1. A domestic laptop not destined to roam much further than the bedroom or kitchen
2. But a proper laptop, not a desktop squeezed into a box that makes like a hovercraft, fries eggs on its keyboard, and lasts 15 minutes between charges
3. Nevertheless, sufficient grunt and screen real-estate for software development with the current generation of IDEs
4. Integrated DVD writer for convenient data backup
5. Otherwise, day-to-day stuff: browsing, mail, writing documents, ripping CDs, playing MP3s
6. Very occassional gaming

And my evaluation:

I think it meets my criteria well. I actually dithered over whether I really needed the wide-screen version of this laptop, but now having used one for a while I'd never go back to 1024x768. Everyday performance is great, and it has enough CPU power and memory for comfortable development.

It could benefit from better battery life, but that was the trade-off I chose to make. A similar spec machine with a 1.8MHz Pentium M or better would've been getting on for a couple of hundred pounds more expensive. For now I'm happy with it, so hopefully I made the right choice.

[geejo]

Nice Review . Thanks for comparing the performance with P M .. 2.25 hours battery life is seems nice for this notebook BTW did it come with an 8 cell battery or 12 cell..if u cant make out just the number of cell just mention your battery part number

Geejo

[new2acer]

It's a BTP-58A1. The specs online where I bought the laptop indicate that it's an 8 cell battery.

If it were possible to compatibly (and safely) upgrade the battery, I'd be keen to know.

[geejo]

Since you asked here's service manual for 1680 series
http://www.eserviceinfo.com/download.php?fileid=10198

Does your unit heat up a lot when running cpu intensive task for prolonged period

[maia]

Originally Posted by geejo

Since you asked here's service manual for 1680 series
http://www.eserviceinfo.com/download.php?fileid=10198

Does your unit heat up a lot when running cpu intensive task for prolonged period

hey, geejo, do u have the service manual for the 4001WLMi, TM4000 series?
thx

[geejo]

Originally Posted by maia

hey, geejo, do u have the service manual for the 4001WLMi, TM4000 series?
thx

http://www.eserviceinfo.com/download.php?fileid=10248

2300/4000/4500 Comes in same case hence the manual is same

[maia]

Originally Posted by geejo

http://www.eserviceinfo.com/download.php?fileid=10248

2300/4000/4500 Comes in same case hence the manual is same

Yeah, I asked you for it but then hit the "Browse" and found it,lol. Forgot to post it here tho
BTW, isn't there a full service manual that shows how to take the notebook appart? Also, I can't identify the Bluetooth module in there

[geejo]

I once got link in emule ...just serach with sting acer manual.... It was full cd containing manuals of most model ...dont hav the with me now...

As for the bluetooth module...try to find the module with the part listed in manual ...if it is available it is only the matter of figuring out where the module goes..in the laptop and i thing that would be easy

[maia]

I tried removing one of the back covers on my Acer, but the screws won't come out!!! They'll run over them selves but won't come completely out, so I can't take the plastic cover off (I tried removing the Mini-PCI one)

[maia]

Originally Posted by maia

I tried removing one of the back covers on my Acer, but the screws won't come out!!! They'll run over them selves but won't come completely out, so I can't take the plastic cover off (I tried removing the Mini-PCI one)

Any help would be appreciated...

[geejo]

Hope you are seen eXoR's post
http://notebookforums.com/showthread...highlight=acer

Btw: Did you get the CD?. i mentioned above

[maia]

Originally Posted by geejo

Hope you are seen eXoR's post
http://notebookforums.com/showthread...highlight=acer

Btw: Did you get the CD?. i mentioned above

Not yet... Getting it

[taddy]

new2acer and other 1362/3 users,

have you tried overclocking the fsb to 200 Mhz ?

I have an Acer 1362 laptop. Similar to yours but with the standard screen. I noticed that the VIA K8M800 chipset in these are rated to 200 FSB - so using A64Tweaker .....

http://users.tpg.com.au/spark69/a64t...weaker_V02.zip

I've been running mine at 200fsb which makes the laptop much more responsive.

When using the a64 tweaker its best to set power to 'always on' first. I set CAS latency {Tcl} to 3.0 next, then finally change MEMCLK Frequency to 200.

Even my mixed modules are happy with these timings. Boosts Sanda Mem scores to 2780/2780 from 2175/2157

Since the 1362 uses onboard Unichrome for graphics this makes quite a difference with this lappy. YMMV

I upgraded from the 256 meg ram supplied (Nanya) to 512 using 256 meg SODIMM Kingston value ram no problem (tested using memtest86 left running overnight).

I find the 1362 a great value laptop - 2 1/2 to 3 hours on battery, respectable performance (but only with 512 meg ram upgraded).

Another must have util for these laptops is mobilemeter which displays cpu/system/drive temps and cpu frequency. See link under 'Download' heading here .....

http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-Oakland/8259/

Cheers.

[joelkin]

Originally Posted by maia

I tried removing one of the back covers on my Acer, but the screws won't come out!!! They'll run over them selves but won't come completely out, so I can't take the plastic cover off (I tried removing the Mini-PCI one)

Hey I am having exactly the same problem....
I have undone the 2 scres -didt work!
even undone all the surrounding ones --the silly cover wont come off.
Whats the trick??

Cheers