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Doom 3 Performance(9300)

post #1 of 27
8/7/05 at 11:10pm
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Ok I have an issue.

My benchmark scores are where they should be...about 3300 in 3dmark05 on 80.40 drivers. Which I am happy with, but my in game doom 3 perfomance is crap, when I look at other people on this forum. I get about 51 on the timedemo1 at 1024x768 and high settings. But in game is just unbearable. It lags every few seconds or when I open a door or shoot a gun. Just crappy.

I mean I see guys on this forum running doom 3 at higher res than this and on ultra settings and they said it runs perfect with no hangups at all on a 9300 without overclocking. Not to mention they get about 75 on the timedemo at the same settings. So what gives. Why are my benches fine and in game crap?

Specs:
PM 1.86
WSXGA+
512RAM
6800go
60GB 5.4K

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post #2 of 27
8/7/05 at 11:23pm
It may be the amount of RAM you have. In other threads, I have seen the same problem, and many have only had 512mb. When they upgraded to 1 gb or 2, the games seem to fly. Hope this helps.
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post #3 of 27
8/7/05 at 11:25pm
Have you defragmented your Hard Drive?
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post #4 of 27
8/7/05 at 11:45pm
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ok, I went back to the newest drivers from Dell. I can run on ultra with some lag at the beginning (20 seconds) then it runs pretty well only lagging in a couple of spots. Other then that it hovers around 60 FPS other then the laggy parts.

Does anyone know how to change it to 1440x900 resolution in Doom 3 or know of a place to find out?

I will defrag and see if it is better and I am sure ram is a culprit too.
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post #5 of 27
8/8/05 at 12:10am
http://www.tweakguides.com/Doom3_1.html

This guide should help you create custom resolutions.
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post #6 of 27
8/8/05 at 12:30am
THe main reason is your not overclocking that badboy...Otherwise your not gonna get good performance.
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post #7 of 27
8/8/05 at 12:34am
1gb+ Ram?
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post #8 of 27
8/8/05 at 2:37am
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performance is really good now other than a few (very short) hangups on start up of the game but it stays around 50-60. I wonder why the dell drivers worked better?

Anyway I think more ram is in order to take care of those hang ups.

Thanks for the guide
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post #9 of 27
8/8/05 at 3:37am
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Originally Posted by schrivedawg
performance is really good now other than a few (very short) hangups on start up of the game but it stays around 50-60. I wonder why the dell drivers worked better?

Anyway I think more ram is in order to take care of those hang ups.

Thanks for the guide
The Dell drivers might be stabler or more mature, and not as crazily tweaked/optimized for certain performance boosts in 3DMark 2005, for example.
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post #10 of 27
8/8/05 at 7:34am
I have a 1.86ghz 9300 with 2 gigs of ram and I think the 7.77 drivers from laptopvideo2go, have the GPU overclocked with Nvidia's automatic overclock.
Just ran the Doom3 timedemo at 1920x1200 and had 38fps.
1600x1000 - 55fps
1280x800 - 68fps
both with no AA
Not too shabby. I love this laptop, it is nice being able to play BF2 with all settings on High.
Is it just me or does Doom3 not look very different at higher resolutions?
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post #11 of 27
8/8/05 at 10:52am
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Originally Posted by schrivedawg
Ok I have an issue.
I mean I see guys on this forum running doom 3 at higher res than this and on ultra settings and they said it runs perfect with no hangups at all on a 9300 without overclocking. Not to mention they get about 75 on the timedemo at the same settings. So what gives. Why are my benches fine and in game crap?
It's not any part of your system holding you back but your ram and 5.4k hard drive. The lag is from the system caching what won't fit into ram on your hard drive, if it was really your video card lagging you would see those spots of lag all the time. You can upgrade to a 7.2k HD or get a gig of ram. You can increase your cache as well but that would fill up eventually and degrade your performance as it deleltes and resuses part of the disk. Its not your resolution holding you back but the quality of your textures, and maybe the memory speed and clock of your vid card, lower the quality to medium and the lag should dissapear. Had this same exact problem on my 9100 with 512MB of ram and the same problem before I upgraded the HD in my 9300.
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post #12 of 27
8/8/05 at 10:55am
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Originally Posted by Draconis77
Is it just me or does Doom3 not look very different at higher resolutions?
People have stated again and again that the game has awesome use of textures, but if you play at 1024x768 then go to 1152x864 and then 1440x900 you'll see a huge difference.
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post #13 of 27
8/8/05 at 11:08am
Hello,

1. You need more RAM for Doom3.
2. Go to you driver tab and select at clock rates tool "detect optimized settings". When I´m right, mine is in German.. I play with 345/700 clock rates hours Battlefield2 and its stable, cool and faaaaster, as the slow 299/59x from DELL default.
3. 80.40 is not a released driver. Its an leaked or Beta driver, which is a testing/ developing thing, maybe first optimized for D3D, has bugs and errors.. And why the DELL driver is faster and more stable is then clear.

I would not play in 1440x900. 1024x768@60Hz 32bit is heavy enough, also when it´s not the native LCD resolution. Doom3 uses heavy textures.

In Battlefield you get a smaller screen/fov, when playing in 1440x900, do not know in Doom3. Doom3 is boring for me...

Greetings,
Marcus
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post #14 of 27
8/8/05 at 1:40pm
512 MB Ram is not really enough for today's modern Games

Half Life 2, Battlefield 2 are among the others that will pwn 512 MBs
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post #15 of 27
8/9/05 at 1:04am
yah, get a 1GB stick for ~$100 and you'll be set with 1.5GB

Btw, I've overclocked my card and tweaked my system, I play at 1440x900, 2xAA 8xAF, ultra settings, and I get 58fps in the time demo. This laptop flies once properly set up
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post #16 of 27
8/9/05 at 12:12pm
As everyone has already said: Get more ram and Overclock your card. You'll see a big improvement at that point.
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post #17 of 27
8/9/05 at 1:13pm
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Originally Posted by Mr. K6
yah, get a 1GB stick for ~$100 and you'll be set with 1.5GB

Btw, I've overclocked my card and tweaked my system, I play at 1440x900, 2xAA 8xAF, ultra settings, and I get 58fps in the time demo. This laptop flies once properly set up
What tweaking are we talking about here =) ?
Would like to know everything.. want to squeeze all the power off my 9300 when it arrives . I will use a XP SP2 Stripped edition which is daaaamn fast.. and then A&O Defrag and NOD32 , web Opera.. IE Explorer is already gone in this XP hmm what else.. swapfile/pagefile default? ahh man I want the laptop now ! and I want my 1GB stick also =)
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post #18 of 27
8/9/05 at 1:21pm
Off hand I recommend a reformat and re-install to clear out Dell's junk, then follow this guide: http://www.tweaktown.com/document.ph...review&dId=324

Note that there is the full edition on Koroush's site, www.tweakguides.com , but that guide is much more concise. After that, undervolt your CPU and overclock the hell out of your 6800Go (use the guides here for both of those). Finally, www.tweakguides.com has guides for most major games to get them running perfectly. I think I might write a small tweak guide to get people going .
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post #19 of 27
8/9/05 at 3:10pm
hold your horses! You mean that I "save" power from the cpu so I can overclock more to the GPU? or only undervolt so there is less heat generation? And is it risky to undervolt? and how do I do ? thx...
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post #20 of 27
8/9/05 at 3:14pm
You are running on ULTRA with 512MB of memory and you wonder why your performance is lacking?! Jesus Christ.

Get another GB of memory, and set the quality to High, and you should be fine.
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