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post #1 of 39
11/12/03 at 1:21am
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I was thinking of applying Arctic Silver 3 to my 5680 but had a couple questions. Ive searched the forums but didnt find any definitive answers.
1)Obviously, will this void the warranty?
2)Will this affect future upgrade plans?
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post #2 of 39
11/12/03 at 1:44am
It will not void the warranty unless you screw up and cause something to break.

Worst situation - you will be buying a new heatsink and CPU (if you REALLY fuk up!! ) which is not too bad IMO...

Everything else is grey area...someone will have to actually experience it for the others to know what will happen...and atm it looks like I am first in line because I have completely changed my 5660's cooling system by removing the pads, lapping the heatsink and CPU and using thermal paste)

Think about it and do it only if you think it is gonna be worth it and if you have the requisite skill. For me it was worth it...no more table fan on the side to improve cooling...

But I think just cleaning out your heatsink will have a good result...
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post #3 of 39
11/12/03 at 4:39am
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Originally posted by gsferrari
It will not void the warranty unless you screw up and cause something to break.

Worst situation - you will be buying a new heatsink and CPU (if you REALLY fuk up!! ) which is not too bad IMO...

Everything else is grey area...someone will have to actually experience it for the others to know what will happen...and atm it looks like I am first in line because I have completely changed my 5660's cooling system by removing the pads, lapping the heatsink and CPU and using thermal paste)

Think about it and do it only if you think it is gonna be worth it and if you have the requisite skill. For me it was worth it...no more table fan on the side to improve cooling...

But I think just cleaning out your heatsink will have a good result...
I have applied ASIII to numerous (>6) processors and I feel very comfortable with this. The only thing is that they were all AMD slot A processors. Are P4's any different?? I ask because my 5680 will be delivered Thursday and I know the difference that Arctic Silver and lapping make for cooling!!! I really want to do this but not until I know for absolute certain that my warranty won't be voided.

I thought that if the case was opened the warranty was voided?? Maybe I am mistaken....
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post #4 of 39
11/12/03 at 5:28am
p4s are less risky than amd procs because they use a heat spreader. instead of applying the as3 directly onto the die you apply it to the heat spreader
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post #5 of 39
11/12/03 at 3:25pm
I am woefully behind on my "Artic Silver For Your Sager Guide," but that'll be coming soon.

Anyway, to get to the 5680's heat sink you are hardly opening the case - there's a panel that slides off in about 30 seconds to get at the sink. To my knowledge, this will not void your warantee.

I applied Arctic Silver 5 to my heatsink/processor, and I am quite happy with the result - my computer even runs silent a lot of the time. One thing to bear in mind is that AS compounds get thicker through the first 500 hours of use, eventually almost solidifying in a putty-like layer that has been said to be able to hold the heat sink on a chip even when upside-down. You can get the sink off, you'll just have to be extremely careful, especially in a tight-fit environment like a laptop. So, in terms of affecting an upgrade: No, it shouldn't, if you're careful enough. I think the thermal benefits of having an AS compound between your chip and heat sink are far, far greater than the eventual hassle of (in my case) an unlikely upgrade.

Cheers,

- Aeon
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post #6 of 39
11/12/03 at 4:25pm
Aeon, did you lap your heatsink? I've wet-sanded all my previous desktop heatsinks with 600,800, and then 1000 grit sandpaper taped to a flat piece of glass. I'll probably be doing this to the 5680's heatsink if it comes out easily. Lapping makes a wonderful difference.
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post #7 of 39
11/12/03 at 10:05pm
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Originally posted by Ge|atinousFury
I have applied ASIII to numerous (>6) processors and I feel very comfortable with this. The only thing is that they were all AMD slot A processors. Are P4's any different?? I ask because my 5680 will be delivered Thursday and I know the difference that Arctic Silver and lapping make for cooling!!! I really want to do this but not until I know for absolute certain that my warranty won't be voided.

I thought that if the case was opened the warranty was voided?? Maybe I am mistaken....
If the case is taken apart to paint it etc the warranty is voided upgrading cpu is different matter..
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post #8 of 39
11/12/03 at 11:18pm
I did not lap my heat sink - I was far too anxious to just get my PC up and running. What I did do was remove the graphite/carbon compound as completely as I could from both the heat spreader and the underside of the sink. Impatience probably cost me some cooling ability, but it's a sacrifice I was willing to make.

- Aeon
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post #9 of 39
11/12/03 at 11:42pm
i've also applied artic silver on desktop AMD pcs. I just used a little bit of arctic silver and a deodorent plug (you know that clear plastic thing that you remove from a deodorent stick so that you can actually use it? Well I used that instead of my precious credit cards .) I'm not touching my laptop heatsink or processor in fear of breaking it somehow (laptops seem a lot more fragile than the big rigs). Aeon, releasing a "Artic Silver For Your Sager Guide" would be very helpful for all of us .
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post #10 of 39
11/12/03 at 11:52pm
finally got around to artic silvering up the sager.
theres a weird metallic sticker thingie instead of a thermal pad. you peel that off and clean it up then apply the AS3. never realized how small p4s were compared to my amds
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post #11 of 39
11/13/03 at 12:08am
Thats the "so-called" thermal pad
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post #12 of 39
11/13/03 at 12:19am
Someone said in another thread that there was a sticker between the heatsink and the CPU, maybe that is what they confused it for
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post #13 of 39
11/13/03 at 12:31am
its garbage whatever it is.
havent noticed any difference but i suppose you wouldnt. still warm around the wads keys
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post #14 of 39
11/13/03 at 12:32am
If I said that then I will be honest - It looked like a piece of crap to me I have seen a few good thermal pads and I didnt know what to make of this one...looked like everyday aluminum foil which you wrap food in

It came off rather easy - almost slid right off. But its long gone - removed it from my sacred laptop almost 5 months back

LITEHEDDED :-
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Yes it is still warm around the keyboard..but I dont have to use an external fan to play games anymore. Normally I used to get a lousy graining every 5 minutes when the temp went up - not anymore...

Also - the fans dont turn on so often after the mod...
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post #15 of 39
11/13/03 at 12:47am
ouch no i didnt get any of that happening.
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post #16 of 39
11/13/03 at 12:51am
Maybe because yours is the HOT 5680....mine is the non hyperthreading and relatively cooler 5660
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post #17 of 39
11/13/03 at 1:03am
ahhhhhhhh i see
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post #18 of 39
11/13/03 at 1:27am
Maximum PC seems to recommend against Arctic Silver heatsink glue(or any glue for that matter) unless you find yourslef taking apart the heatsink and CPU often. they highly praise those "pads" that go between...if you just want to hit it and forget it. let me now state that i've never even built a pc, working on my first though. it's an amd that i'm scared of touching after i heard(after the fact) how fragile the exposed cpu core is, as it is unprotected unlike the P4.
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post #19 of 39
11/13/03 at 1:42am
i didnt use the epoxy. its just a paste its not an adhesive.
the thunderbird core was much more fragile than todays athlons.
the newer cores really take a beating without chipping unlike the old t-birds
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post #20 of 39
11/13/03 at 2:04am
i stand corrected..i meant paste, not glue...
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