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s360- battery dying fast when not in use

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
>sorry repeat question but I need an answer>

Can anybody else who has a s360 verify this for me.
I can have the battery in the unit and the unit powered OFF. 100% charge. In about 2-3 days of no use, the battery is down to 74%.
If I have the laptop on Standby I swear it only goes down by something like 5-10% a day.
Why is my battery draining so fast when the unit is off? Does yours do this?
post #2 of 18
I've only had mine for like 4 days so I can't really say, but you may want to shoot a call over to Sony tech support and see what they say, they'll probably replace your battery if they deem it defective.

Hopefully someone will come along with a better answer.
post #3 of 18
Thread Starter 
I sent them a email but still waiting on a response. btw, it happens with either the stock battery or the extended battery so I doubt its that. Not to mention, if it was, the battery should die just as fast while in standby?
post #4 of 18
Hmm.. werid.. I used my laptop everyday, so I don't know...

btw I have one stock battery and one extended battery...
post #5 of 18
Did you get a response from Sony? After reading your thread, I checked my 360 and I have the same problem. From 100% charge, after 2 or 3 days, it went down to 75%. Another 3 days, it was down to 52%. I emailed Sony today, and Sony replied with their typical Sony tech support response. (ie. useless)

starstreak, do you have the wifi switch set to on? I'm going to try switching it to off and see if it's the wifi pulling power. Other then that, I guess I'll just have to leave it on hibernate instead.

If I leave it on hibernate for days, would that have bad affects on my notebook, like hd spin, cpu heating, etc..?
post #6 of 18
I wish I could test this on mine but I use it everyday as my primary machine.
post #7 of 18
Thread Starter 
No response from sony. I havn't tried leaving the wireless switch off. Last time I hit the switch, I couldn't get the wireless to turn on for 10mins. kept having to turn it off/on. Let me know how it goes. I but mine insto standy if its only for a day. Same battery drop but at elast now, the unit turns on right away.
post #8 of 18
Not that a response from Sony helps at all. This is the email I got back from them.

Quote:
Thank you for contacting Sony Online Support.

We understand the difficulties you are experiencing. We suggest that
you install all the critical updates of Windows Service Pack 2 before
installing the Windows Service Pack 2. If you have not installed the
critical updates, we suggest that you uninstall the Windows Service Pack 2.
We have searched our support knowledgebase and found the following
article that should assist you with this issue. Please click the URL link
below to review the information on uninstalling the Microsoft Windows
Service Pack 2 (SP2) update:

http://www.iq.sony.com/srvs/autoresponse.asp?id=182389

Please follow the procedures given below to determine if your battery
needs charging, cleaning, or replacing:

NOTE: VAIO Notebook systems that ship with an AMD processor do not
offer remote battery hardware diagnostics, please contact the
SONY Customer Information Service Center by phone. This will
allow our telephone technicians to diagnose your battery issues
further. We are available at 888-476-6972, 24 hours a day,
7 days a week. Outside the US or Canada, you may contact us at
239-768-7676.

1. Without the A/C adapter attached to the Notebook and the battery
fully inserted, attempt to power on the unit:

a. If the system boots up, the battery is functioning but may need
to be charged.

b. If the system does not boot, turn the unit off. Remove and then
reinsert the battery. Try to power on the unit again. If it
powers up, the electrical contacts on the battery may been become
oxidized creating a poor connection. Power down the system,
remove the battery and clean the contacts with a pencil eraser.

2. If the system will not start on battery power, completely power the
system down and reconnect the A/C power adapter. Leave the battery
in the Primary battery bay and start the system using the A/C power.

a. Hold the Fn key and press the F2 key. A window will appear and
indicate both an A/C plug and a battery symbol. The shaded are in
the battery symbol indicates the charge left in the battery.

b. If the battery indicator does not show over 15%, charge the
battery 12 hours (overnight). Check to see if the battery charge
indication changes. If the battery charge increases overnight
restart the battery diagnosis at step 1.

c. If the indicator does not change there is a hardware issue that
will require either repair or replacement. Either the battery has
failed and requires replacement or the internal Notebook power
connections in the primary battery bay have failed and require
repair.

3. For those VAIO Notebook systems which offer dual battery bays (for
secondary batteries) you may try to determine which hardware issue
you have:

a. Power down the system and remove the battery from the Primary
Battery Bay. Insert the battery into the Secondary Battery bay.

b. Disconnect the A/C power and attempt to power the system using
the battery ONLY. If the system starts, the battery is
functioning. Hold the Fn key and press the F2 key. If the battery
indicator does not show over 15%, power down the system and
charge the battery in the Secondary Bay for 12 hours (overnight).
Check to see if the battery charge indication changes. If the
battery charge increases, the battery is functioning normally and
the issue was in the internal Primary Battery Bay. Although the
system will function using the Secondary Bay, SONY strongly
recommends you call in to have your notebook serviced.

NOTE: We are available at 888-476-6972, 24 hours a day, 7 days a
week. Outside the US or Canada, you may contact us at
239-768-7676.

c. If the system still will not start, completely power the system
down and reconnect the A/C power adapter. Leave the battery in
the Secondary Battery bay and start the system using the A/C
power. Start the Battery Scope application. If Battery Scope
reports 0% and Full charge capacity 0 maH, Design Capacity 0 maH,
then the battery needs to be replaced.

NOTE: Notebook batteries come with a 30 day warranty. If a battery you
purchased from SONY failed within that time, it will be replaced
under warranty. Should your battery fail outside the provided
warranty period, a replacement may be purchased directly from
our MTC (Manufacturing Technology Centre) at 877-779-9929.

NOTE: The Manufacturing Technology Centre can only bill and ship parts to Canadian addresses. If you are currently outside of Canada, you would need to have a friend, relative, or business associate inside Canada place and receive the order for you.

When they receive the part, they could then forward it to your current location.

NOTE: Certain internal parts may be classified as "Non-Consumer Replaceable" by the Parts Center. If your part is unavailable for purchase, your product will require service to obtain replacement.

NOTE: If the Parts Center does send you an internal replacement part, it will not come with installation or replacement instructions. The support center does not have instructions for the installation of these types of parts and can not provide assistance with their installation.

Should you require assistance with the part's installation, you will need to send the unit for service.

TIP: If you want a more interactive support experience you may
want to try our LiveAssist Chat support available at:
http://www.iq.sony.com/srvs/conversation/liveassist.asp

Thank You,

Your Sony Email Response Team
Online Support and Services Centre
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Original Message Follows:
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Model/SN : S360 /
OS : Windows XP
Hardware : Other Hardware
Issue : Other Software
:
Message : I bought a Vaio S360 in April, 2005. I noticed that
recently, if I shut down the notebook completely, and then don't use it for
2 or 3 days, the battery usage goes down. Specifically, my battery
meter was at 73% when I shut it down, but when I opened the notebook after 2 days, the battery meter goes to 52%. Leaving the notebook idly
running for an hour resulted in the battery going down to 51%. Is there
something wrong with the battery or windows setting that's making the
notebook draw battery power when the notebook is completely shut down? I'm using WinXP Pro with SP2, upgraded to 1gb ram, and I'm shutting down by going to 'Turn off computer' in windows and clicking turn off. The wifi
switch is set to on.

Thanks for your time.
I had to use my laptop for the past few days so didn't really have time to experiment. I'll do some experimentation today and see what happens.

The last time I turned the wireless off, it took me 3 restarts and about 10 minutes to connect back also. Argh!
post #9 of 18
Thread Starter 
I guess I'm not the only one with that on/off switch. I think it gives me problems mainly if the sistem goes to standby. I think as long as I tun it on or restart the computer I can get the wifi to come on without any issues.
This battery drainage(sp) sucks big time in my book.
Except for a Toshiba laptop I had 5 years ago which did the exact same thing. I since moved to Dell which never had an issue like this. My Inspiron 8100, 8600, XPS ver2. All work fine. Btw, this s360 drains with power off as fast as it does in standby, the s460 I had before this would actually stay warm while in standby and drain even quicker, but I don't remember if it drained while off.
post #10 of 18
I tried turning off my laptop with wifi switched ON, and the battery went from 97% to 92% in 24 hours. Then I tried to switch wifi OFF (after the laptop was turned off) and left it for 24 hours, then switched it back ON before turning on the laptop (so that I didn't have to reboot 3 times and use 10 minutes for the wifi to work again), and the battery went from 92% to 86%. So I think whether the wifi is on or off didn't really matter much.
post #11 of 18
Thread Starter 
yeah... this is sad..At least our standby works. More so than the s460 I had. That one would stay warm and drain completely in a day.
post #12 of 18
If you put a computer on standby, it takes power to "suspend" it onto the Ram, Use hibernate, it shuts all power off and "suspends" the image on the HDD
post #13 of 18
Thread Starter 
Right. thats how suspend works. and does it fine. BUT the problem I and other people are having is that the laptop is turned OFF and battery drain is close to 10% a day. My standby is about the same ammount, so something is still draining the battery even when off.
post #14 of 18

Let's try...

I think I'm having the same problem, but what would happen if we remove the battery from the notebook? If it still drains, then it's a battery problem, if not, then it's the notebook. I'll let you know what results...
post #15 of 18
I just bought an S360 from a friend but won't get to use it until I come home for Christmas. But my question is if you remove the battery from the laptop does the battery still drain?
post #16 of 18
I just bought a brand new s580 and I have the same problem. I called sony support and they said that I could send it back to them to see if it was defective, but that "the battery drain was totally normal for laptop batteries". I am sending the 580 back and ordering an ASUS W3v.
post #17 of 18
I have a Sony s460 and a Dell Inspiron 9100. The dell has a P4 800MMHz FSB etc, but does not have this battery problem. You charge it to 100% and shut it off it does not lose any battery. The Sony does.

It's certainly not a "laptop battery" issue, perhaps a "sony laptop battery" issue though.
post #18 of 18
Thread Starter 
yup. its related to Sony. They are liars if they say all notebook batteries do this. There is something draining the batteries in the Sony notebook.
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