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post #61 of 90
Lol.
post #62 of 90
When I was in fifth grade, one of the teachers accidentally gave me the admin password, which is the city of the school. I used it to access the regular Mac OS 7 file manager because At Ease sucked. I was also able to run Netscape Navigator 3 on the computers in the lab. They really had bad IT security at the time.

In middle school, they locked down the Macs with a program called FoolProof, which prevented me from deleting files or installing apps. That means I had to save all my Claris/AppleWorks documents on a floppy. In the library, the only games that they have are the Sim games (SimCity 2000, SimEarth, etc.) and Number Munchers. When the iMacs running Mac OS 9 came, the admin blocked the sound recorder because people were making recordings of swearing. I was also able to access the Internet, but their connection was horribly slow. The only time I was banned is when I merely downloaded an exe file.

In high school, they were exclusively using PCs running Windows 98. A lot of the students were playing Web games, listening to/viewing streams, and checking Web mail. That came to an end when the admin installed a Web filter, which blocked stuff like http://www.candystand.com, "games", "mail," "radio," "chat," "messenger," and eBay. From then on, I brought some games on floppies and avoided blocked terms. When I was a senior, I tried using Firefox to get around, but that didn't work. I decided to use my KNOPPIX 3.8 CD on one of the computers, but it didn't boot and the BIOS password was set. So I brought my flash drive and boot Damn Small Linux from a floppy. The library's computers had the floppy boot disabled. But I booted successfully from one of the classroom computers.

I'm now taking courses at a tech school for a degree in computer networking. They don't care if I use my live CDs or store DOOM on the server.
post #63 of 90
Looks like all of us at some point or another have tried to get arround our schools sercurity just to have the pride and joy that we can.
post #64 of 90
Lol, yeah. I have multiple times. Sometimes I'm just bored and its fun to poke around. I've never actually done anything to it though.

The things I discovered include:

* Access the C drive through MS Word (standard Explorer access was blocked)
* Access student pictures through library server (all images stored as JPG)
* Use Portable (USB) Firefox to access any website (even school blocked ones) using the MSN Messenger server as a proxy. This was my favourite hack
* Copy/Move/Open files on C Drive using my own VB6 App (after Word exploit was blocked)
* Print to any printer in the school (even staffroom ones)
* Run MSN Messenger 7 off USB Drive through school proxy
* Connect my laptop to network and access internet and my own student drive (through school proxy)
* Start Windows Games (Solitaire, Minesweeper, Spider Sol, Pinball, Freecell) using my own VB6 launcher. The games were blocked if you tried shortcuts
post #65 of 90
i wouldnt dare bring my laptop near my school
hahaha
post #66 of 90
Why?
post #67 of 90
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronobuster
The school officials have to admit at least some responsibility for giving out the password.

At my high school, we would figure out how to get past our restrictions. It was pretty easy for me and some of my friends, as we just had to use usb keys, Knoppix cds, go into internet explorer and type in C:\whatever, or anything else that was viable.
I remember this article a while back. That was the admin password for the first attempt by the students. They repeat offended the school contracts by using a linux live cd to crack the passwords several other times. So this wasn't just one time of the students finding the password out. They did it several times, with each time using something a little more serious.

And the real question here is that they ALL sign computer use contracts stating they wouldn't do this. Like it or not they signed themselves their own jail time. So this isn't an issue of the school should have had better security. Its an issue of the students shouldn't have been so dumb.

I work at the helpdesk at my college andwe give out computer accounts to students for the computer lab. We have rules and we make them sign a contract each semester to confirm those rules. If they get cought breaking the rules they loose all computer previliges for life at our college. Do people actually read the contracts. Its one thing if students think we are just bluffing our threats of actions but its another very scary thing if people sign things freely without actually reading what they are signing.....
post #68 of 90
that only works if everyone is at least 18 or if parents sign the agreements too...

btw, a contract is an offer and voluntary acceptance of that offer... that cannot happpen unless the parties have reached the age of majority...
post #69 of 90
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan1
Even though the students should not be doing that, it seems like they should have a little better security setup (taped password on the back of some computers).

On CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/interne....ap/index.html

If you go into a jewelry store and smash a display case with a rock and take a watch, then get caught you very well cannot use the excuse "they should have used bulletproof glass"

No matter if the username and password to get internet access was just laying on the floor for all to see, they knew they were not supposed to use it =) Their only excuse is they are dumb kids who broke a rule. Nothing new to see here...
post #70 of 90
at my school we used to get past blocked sites by using translation pages like babelfish and translatin gweb pages form ne foreign language to english until thy eblocke dthose hten we used anonymous proxys usb keys and other ways to get past blocked sites until they jsut gave up and now few sites are blocked
on my last day of school lat year i connected to the schools system and hosted and unrealt tournament 2003 lan party it was awesoem we had newhere from 10 to 20 ppl on a ta t ime and everyone loved but this year unrealt tournament was deleted from the network
post #71 of 90
Quote:
Originally Posted by lysis

PS: real 'hackers' or whatever you call them don't brag. they read.
QFT.......and the people who brag, are the people who download hacking style programs, or event loggers or whatever and are like oh my farking teh g0dz0rs im a l337 ha4oxs0rz, its retarded

but then again there are some wee little 14-17 year olds who got a computer at such a young age they just remember having to use dos prompt to get anywhere, and such

me personaly, i know a hacker, well more of a war driver with wifi/land lines, he does it for personal reasearch of sorts (he makes its so more people go to porn sites, more hits he gets more money porn sites pay him) hes 16-17ish, paying for his own car, his mom never asks what he does, she said i dont want to know, as long as you wont get in trouble

of course sooner or later he will, but 4 grand a month isnt bad

and to anyone that abuses someones open access point is pretty retarded
schools are government properity, put them in jail with "big john" and "black ice" they will treat them right


then again anyone that keeps theirs unsecure (sigh my gf's dad) is just as retarded

soulsaver
post #72 of 90
Quote:
Originally Posted by eclypse3demons
If you go into a jewelry store and smash a display case with a rock and take a watch, then get caught you very well cannot use the excuse "they should have used bulletproof glass"

No matter if the username and password to get internet access was just laying on the floor for all to see, they knew they were not supposed to use it =) Their only excuse is they are dumb kids who broke a rule. Nothing new to see here...
someone used that on hardforums when we were talking about that florida guy, maybe it was me? i forgot

but honestly, stealing ummmm......internet? (i was gonna say information floating in air?) and stealing a pound of gold...........theres a diffrence

to me, if you want wifi access you should take a test on what you know about it

stealing pixels in air shouldnt be a crime unless your using someones bandwith to commit any sort of crime

downloading illegal music is a nonissue, we all do it, im sure the clintion daughters, and bush daughters do it religiously, doesnt bother me one bit, my 60 gig drive is full of it

and its sad that we have to hide this too.........but alas, such is the UNMONITERED internet.........go find child porn addicts, pedos going after young girls or boys, dont hag on me cause i have Big Mommas House 2 when its still in movie theaters....

be having an illegal movie wont have the chance to fux0rs my life to shizzle, thinking A_caring_person going to meet lisa_emo_68 meeting togheter and somthing very horrid happening to her makes me think her life wont be the same

im getting tired of this government.........whatever, live with it or die trying to fight it

soulsaver
post #73 of 90
Are they saying that's hacking?
It's peeking as far as I know...
I did download thing in school everyonce in a while.
post #74 of 90
There are so many things people can do, the best way to stop hacking in schools and stuff is just to make sure every room with a computer is monitored at all times. I'm 13, I'll admit it, I'm just giving my own opinion of what they should do. Software is so fragile, you can always break it, crack it, and do something you're not supposed to. If they just put people who have some clue what they're doing in those rooms with the computers then you only have to worry about students bringing their own computers...
post #75 of 90
You have very good spelling and grammar for a 13 year old. If only half of the teens on the internet had even half as much skill...

Sorry for the randomness, but I figured I'd applaud you on that.
post #76 of 90
passwords at our school have ranged from our mascot name "cougars" to things like room numbers. it makes them look dumb when rainbow table servers take 15 seconds to crack the LM hases on the admin passwords. makes ME look dumb when i say "hey, i could have GUESSED that one...d'oh"
i think general password security is not regarded as it should be, and the student population at schools are often underestimated to their abilities to cause havok on critical resources. but as long as this ignorance exists...i will continue to exploit it

kwondo
post #77 of 90
I admit that i used my own notwbook and hook onto the school internet and use the internet to harress and disturb many people. I am sorry about that and i am here to make up for all the misdeeds which i had done. Sorry Mr BillMorrow and fellow moderators and fellow schoolmate: NS.

Sorry, I have changed and mend my ways. Please forgive me.
post #78 of 90
I have also found a loophole in my college's Windows 2000 OS, get a USB Mass Storage Device (any for that matter but card reader's works the best).

Log into the system but make sure you stick in the USB Card reader with a memory card inserted and then wait, a error will come up and the system will go into the admin account.

I then saw some files for next week's work and some answers to upcoming test's I didn't go into this and left it, but I still use it sometimes to go on some sites. (not porno mind you)
****ed yes very.
post #79 of 90
I asked the IT Dept in 2003 if I could connect my laptop to my schools LAN for access to the internet and my network drive (all for school purposes of course). They said they would get back to be. I asked several times after that with the same response.

In 2004 I decided I has waited long enough. After a little bit of research using various tools, I was able to make my laptop look like one of the school PC, with full access to my network drive and the internet. All without the IT dept. All I did was unplug whatever computer I was near, use its IP address and I was away surfing.

I also found several ways around their network permissions. I found ways to access most of the files on the main server, even though access had been restricted to administrators. Simple fact is they don't stress test these systems, and when a student is bored out of their brains in a free period, its fun to poke and around and see what you can find
post #80 of 90
Quote:
Originally Posted by MitchellO
I asked the IT Dept in 2003 if I could connect my laptop to my schools LAN for access to the internet and my network drive (all for school purposes of course). They said they would get back to be. I asked several times after that with the same response.

In 2004 I decided I has waited long enough. After a little bit of research using various tools, I was able to make my laptop look like one of the school PC, with full access to my network drive and the internet. All without the IT dept. All I did was unplug whatever computer I was near, use its IP address and I was away surfing.

I also found several ways around their network permissions. I found ways to access most of the files on the main server, even though access had been restricted to administrators. Simple fact is they don't stress test these systems, and when a student is bored out of their brains in a free period, its fun to poke and around and see what you can find
Very lol I also did this when i visited a University for a day (It was trip to see how Uni life was like)
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