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Originally Posted by Wisher
Whoa, I'm sorry, most of your points were obscured. I was much too distracted by that ENORMOUS chip on your shoulder.
"It's not about performance." Come on. Don't be ridiculous. Of course it's about performance. In fact, later on in your post you even said that it's about performance:
So which is it? Is it about performance or is it not about performance (let me say it again so it can sink in a bit - NOT ABOUT PERFORMANCE)?
I won't respond to the many unverified, unjustified and incongruous claims you made. Instead, I'll just respond to your comment to me. What I have read in THIS forum is that people made assumptions about a computer and now they are upset because their assumptions were incorrect. If someone called in and the person on the phone said it was dual channel, then they would have something to complain about. In fact, they would have every reason in the world to return the laptop if they wanted to. But short of that, people are just making a lot of unjustified noise. And as for what DomFel was saying, let's let him say what he meant, not you. Sounded to me like a comparison between a P4 with HT and an AMD with Dual Channel, which, as I said before, is like comparing apples to oranges. But since you do want to compare that, let's do. You could easily purchase a P4 without HT. If it doesn't have HT on the label or in the specs, then it would be unwise to assume it has HT. If you purchase the computer and find out it doesn't have HT and then complain b/c you *thought* it had HT, your complains will fall on deaf ears.
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well, of course it is about performance. i was just trying to make a point, though you seemed to have been distracted by the capitals i used. i will concede that there are many people who are just making, as you stated, unjustified noise. many of them never lifted a finger to do any sort of research and just bought the machine simply because it is such a great bang for the buc, even without DC. yet now they feel as though someone has given them a free ticket to rant, so to speak. in such cases, a person should be asked whether they even knew what DC was at the time of the purchase. but piling all disgruntled owners into one pile of "unjustified noisemakers" is, well, unjustified.
as for DomFel's comments, don't hide behind "let's let him...". he said what he meant, and i believe that you know exactly what he said. though telling someone else to shut up was, on his part, rather sad. what i was comparing, once again, is the actual deceipt, and not the strength of the 2 technologies. it is true that HT is without question more of a performance boost than DC. but what does that mean? does it mean that it is acceptable to mislead the customers just because the technology in question has a wussy 10% boost? but, like you said lets compare them. except this time, lets put HT in the same situation that DC is in with r4000/zv6000. say a new socket was released with a number of new features, yet the biggest and most important one of all is HT. it just came out and you researched the specs. its the correct socket with a cpu that was just released, bearing HT feature, as does the chipset. you go to the store and see the typical intel sticker that you have seen for years now without the HT. you ask the salesperson (who, by the way, gets his info from the manufacturer), and he confirms the peresence of HT. judging from your posts, you are not a moron, so you decided to call the manufactorer, who subsequently confirms HT support on that very model. well, you know the rest. once again, the aforementioned noice that is being made is unwarranted in some instances, while not in others. the bottom line, however, is that the manufacturer is the culprit.
P.S. what were those unverified and unjustified claims that i made? an example would be nice.