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Ordered My 5660

post #1 of 48
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Well folks - first of all let me tell you that its been half a month since I decided to buy a laptop. In this time I have seen through tons of laptops from DELL, TOSHIBA, SONY (yuck!), GATEWAY (booger), APPLE (nice but $$$ and slow), ALIENWARE, HYPERSONIC...etc. etc.

Then I found Sager and at the ****tiest time possible Bang when there was less than 20 days to a newer model...the 8887.

As a few of you might know - i've been agonizing over this decision for a loong time and finally decided today to buy myself a 5660 custom configured.

It was not easy but I came through with this configuration :-


51 Sager 5660 Notebook/5660 1 $2469.86 $2469.86
506 Display: UXGA 1600 X 1200 15" LCD
682 Custom Color: Standard Grey/Blue
588 Processor: 2.4GHZ P4 533 FSB
558 Video: Radeon 9000 64MB DDR
422 RAM: 1024MB (2 DIMMs)
530 Hard Drive: 40GB 5400RPM
537 Media Drive: 8X DVD/24X10X24 CDRW
Combo Drive
372 2nd Media Drive: No
350 Modem: 56K V.90
351 Network Card: 10/100 NIC
365 Operating System: Windows XP
Professional
702 Keyboard Layout: USA
353 Floppy Drive: 3.5" Floppy Drive
354 Battery: Primary Li-ION battery pack
507 Case: Targus TSB212 Backpack
372 12V Car Power Adapter: No
439 Dual Battery Setup: Li-ION battery
for Bay 2
372 Spare Battery: No
372 Spare Power Cord: No
372 Wireless Network: No
444 Warranty: 3 yr warranty (1 year
Sager, 2 years Philips)


Its not cheap and its not the best but I just cant afford the 2.8 option just yet. Will get it when it comes out. All I need is for this rig to play my DOOM 3 without a glitch.

And of course I am praying for some divine intervention so that I get an LCD without any stupid dead pixels

Sager Rules!! Maybe when the 8887 comes out and it kicks royal ass - I will sell this to my cousin and get one of those

Thats what I call a Win - Win situation...

Thanks a lot Sager, Adam and the peeps on this forum...you've all been great and I have no doubt that should I have problems - I can get them solved right here...
post #2 of 48
Congrats on buying the 5660, I know you will just love it. How do I know this? Well I got mine about a week ago with nearly identicle config and I'm still in love . Sure This machine may not be the latest and greatest but it's a solid computer. It blew away all my expectations and I plan on keeping it for years to come .

As for selling it to fund the 8887, it will hard to part with but I say do it .
post #3 of 48
Great system :-) And hey, it is pretty close to the latest and greatest... You will love it! The price was jacked up cuz of XP though... I have a copy that I'll use when I get one, which helps take the price down significantly... I LOVE THIS OPTION, lol.
post #4 of 48
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Gonna mod the order already

Hi,

I am going to mod the order already. Going to ask Adam to remove the Windows and put in a more businesslike case

Hope this will bring the price down a little

Cheers!!
post #5 of 48
That's the really cool thing about PCTorque (or any small computer reseller for that matter). I'm not forced into paying $200 more for an OS I can get for $5 from school. Microsoft is slowly pricing thenselves out of the market, and soon enough linux will be king!
post #6 of 48
you want to get me your os for $5 from school? ;-)
post #7 of 48
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WOW!!

Adam told me to first check out the 3 base models they had under the 5660.

I chose the 5660 V and modded it for 1GB of RAM and got the whole thing at a lesse price than the config I made last night!!

Now I wonder why? Not a marketing person but is there some strategy behind all this or do they use the same components??

Anyway - my new order is in and hopefully i'll have the laptop this weekend...

Cheers!!
post #8 of 48
Sure! show me your U. of Texas student ID!

Only one per student/faculty/staff.
post #9 of 48
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OS from school

This IS one of the things I changed in my prder - I found out that I can get the full sealed Microsoft XP Professional from my school for 50.00 usd!!

Also Adam gave me info on recofragging the 5660-v base model and I got the 5660 now with the 2.8 and 1 GB Ram for less than the confrag I had yesterday!!!

COOL!!

Just waiting for his acknowledgement to go and make the payment.
post #10 of 48
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NEW CONFIG - PLS NOTE



MODDED to the max - my new 5660 is as below...

I dont have the time to hang around - need whats closest to the best and need it now!!


Item Description Qty Unit Price Price
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
41 Sager 5660-V Notebook/5660-V 1 $2402.44 $2402.44
454 Display: UXGA 1600 X 1200 15" LCD
682 Custom Color: Standard Grey/Blue
451 Processor: 2.8GHZ P4 533 FSB
558 Video: Radeon 9000 64MB DDR
450 RAM: 1024MB (2 DIMMs)
528 Hard Drive: 40GB 5400RPM
539 Media Drive: 8X DVD/24X10X24 CDRW
Combo Drive
372 2nd Media Drive: No
350 Modem: 56K V.90
351 Network Card: 10/100 NIC
494 Operating Sysem: No Operating System
702 Keyboard Layout: USA
353 Floppy Drive: 3.5" Floppy Drive
354 Battery: Primary Li-ION battery pack
511 Case: Targus CBT300
372 12V Car Power Adapter: No
439 Dual Battery Setup: Li-ION battery
for Bay 2
372 Spare Battery: No
372 Spare Power Cord: No
372 Wireless Network: No
444 Warranty: 3 yr warranty (1 year
Sager, 2 years Philips)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subtotal $2402.44
UPS Ground $33.00
Total $2435.44


Cant wait to do the benchmarks...

Cheers!!
post #11 of 48
Yeah, the preconfigured models are cheaper because they can be made in bulk and require less custom work :-) Always make sure to try and match up with a preconfig model first and modify the things you can in them. I love the options in preconfig... they're literally perfect :-)
post #12 of 48
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True!!

Luckily for me Adam alerted me to this possibility this morning. Now i've got all I wanted and more for a total less than what I confragged yesterday.

I am not planning to do a review or anything but I will post my pictures and maybe a video for people to download.

Now busy reading the instructions given by adam for installation etc..

Wondering if I should buy a notebook surge protector...

Cheers!
post #13 of 48
I was just wondering why I'm seeing people go for the 40G instead of the 60? Especially if you were saying "need whats closest to the best". Just wondering if you were going to get an external, because my 30G is almost full in my desktop and thats with just a few games on it.

Just wonderin, but congrats on getting a great lappy
post #14 of 48
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External

I was actually thinking of ditching the CD-RW/DVD combo because the write/re-write speed is nothing to write home about. I was thinking of getting the external CD Writer but hey - there goes your portability...

I am going to get an external firewire Hard drive when one comes out at a decent price. This will be something to wait for...

I went 40 GB because I never play more than two games at a time and the only software thats gonna be on my system is :-

1] XP Pro
2] Visual Studio
3] 3D Studio MAX
4] Macromedia Studio
5] game 1
6] game 2
7] Norton Utilities

Thats it - I guess all that will fit comfortably in 10GB - 20 GB of memory - the rest of the space will be free (We always say this and end up clamoring for more HDD space

But my priority was performance not storage...

About getting a great laptop - remember - I had to sell my car to get the extra $$$ - I am hoping it will be worth it because the car was a blast!! Trouble is the guy who bought it off me insists on driving it in front of my house and that seriously ticks me off
post #15 of 48

....

Microsoft is slowly pricing thenselves out of the market, and soon enough linux will be king!
gsferrari


were all happy for you!
post #16 of 48
If I was going to get the 5660, I'd get the 60 gig drive... with the 8886/7, I'll get two 40 gig drives. I prefer to have two separate drives.

As far as the internal burner, 24x write speed is great! Lol, I've got an 8x burner in my current lappy... now THAT is slow. Yeah, 24x isn't 48x, lol, but it's pretty darn fast :-) I'd never get an external drive with an internal burner that is that fast... and I burn a LOT of cds, lol.
post #17 of 48
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I've been tempted by linux

Linux sounds like a great option if all you are into is programming - do they have sufficient support for games and drivers in particular??

I have Red Hat Linux (also from univ) which I thought would make up one partition but I am still not so sure...
post #18 of 48
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Adam strikes again

I wanted my laptop before the weekend because...you know...Saturday is this university football game and sunday is church...

So I e-mailed him and wallah! everything fixed - the Laptop will be out today and hopefully in my house either on Friday or Saturday.

Dont make a habit of this though I am sure Adam would have been happier if I had not screwed up my order last night...

But hey - whats coming is worth any amount of screwing up. This 5660 will kick my desktops a#$ all the way to alienware where it came from...
post #19 of 48

Linux Sucks

That's right, flame on...

[Initializing Rant Engine]

One of the Computer Labs in my computer science department's building has about 50 or so Dual Xeon machines with Red Hat Linux. Suffice to say, it sucks like there is no tomorrow.

[Exec Rant]

I'll give you only a couple of the issues I found with it:

1) The OS's so-called "stability" is actually... not. Now, I know that previous Windows (e.g. 95, 98, ME) have sucked in this respect too, but with Windows XP this is no longer a problem. Instead, after opening large text files in Linux, the system froze solid. Not even the mouse would move. I tried it a lot of times, with different files, different computers, etc. It kept freezing. Also, the files weren't even that big. Maybe 1 or 2 Megs. Programs on Windows XP -do- crash, but the OS itself has not once crashed with me. And I've used it since the Release Candidates.

2) Programming in Linux is actually infinitely times worse. How many here have used Visual Studio .NET? Now, how many –don’t- think that this is, in fact, the ultimate evolution of programming taken to the highest level? That’s right, no one. VS .NET is simply beautiful, it is divine. It practically does all the programming for you. OK, but let’s say VS .NET didn’t exist. Let’s say all you wanted was a fairly good, visual, fast development environment. Maybe like VS 6. That’s not quite what you get with Linux. In Linux, you get “gcc.” It is pathetic. It is the crappiest piece of junk I have ever seen. It essentially does nothing other than compile working code, or fail. And to debug? Well, there’s “gdb.” This is pathetic too. Why do I have to go through hundreds of cryptic incomprehensible commands just to be able to track a variable? Why is this so archaic and annoying?!

3) Games. How many of the newer games make it to Linux? Not many. You know what kind of games make it to Linux? Tetris, Pong, etc. Granted, simple games can be fun, but seriously, who doesn’t want the latest and greatest? Or even the decently recent games? No one. People want the coolest technologies. DX9, WM9, etc. With these things picking up fast, I don’t see how Linux will be getting gamers for a long time. Even John Carmack, the venerable supporter of OpenGL, and maker of the Quakes, which are one of the few that run on Linux, said that DX’s shader architecture is actually much better.

4) Drivers. The following is a list of the things and devices that work with Linux currently: Mouse. Keyboard. CPU. If you’ve got anything else mildly more sophisticated, well, good luck to you. Why? Cause it won’t work. And if it –does- work, then it barely performs its basic functionality.

5) Applications. What can you do in Linux? Well, you can run some back-end back-office server products. That’s pretty much it. No, seriously, there are actually other things you can do, BUT, they all suck as well. What is the problem with applications for Linux? That there are too many… WHAT? Yes, that’s the problem; let me elaborate: When I go to the “start” button in KDE, I am presented with about three billion choices. If I go to “Editors,” I see ten different kinds. For system utilities, there’s about a hundred. WHY?! I don’t need a thousand little useless applications that look like college-undergraduate-projects rather than professional software. I don’t need ten editors, I need ONE really good one: this means, Microsoft Word. I don’t want a hundred system utilities, I need ONE comprehensible configuration tool, meaning, the Control Panel.

And the list goes on and on and on. I know that Windows XP has its problems, but nowhere is it as annoying and stupid as Linux. Jesus, I hate that OS so much, it’s not even funny.

There, I had to get that off my chest. I detest it when people criticize Microsoft when in fact Windows XP is the greatest OS that there is. They fixed the bugs, they fixed the crashes, they fixed pretty much everything. Stop blaming Microsoft! They produce the best software there is! I don’t care if you have hundreds of idiots trying to program and “fix” Linux at the same time worldwide; Microsoft has got 50,000 employees paid around-the-clock full-time to do this stuff. They are better.

[Quit Rant]

Cheers.
post #20 of 48
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Mamma mia!!

Looks like Yale is ready to LInux in front of the world.

True it sucks for games and stuff but most linux users are not into games anyway - what they like is a programmable OS where THEY call the shots!

I only 'thought' of including Linux in my system but decided not to simply because my desktop has it already. No linux is coming anywhere near my 5660.

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