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XPS GEN 2 Vs. i9300

post #1 of 34
Thread Starter 
I live in Australia at the moment, where they don't sell Gen 2's
I would like to own a gen 2 b/c of the gigabit and 6800 ultra, but to be honest will I be able to tell a huge difference in games between a 9300 w/ 6800 and a XPS?
post #2 of 34
A search of the forum will give you the best information. It has been talked about many times. Unless, you are an extreme gamer, the 9300 should meet all of your needs.
post #3 of 34
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Originally Posted by larryc2
A search of the forum will give you the best information. It has been talked about many times. Unless, you are an extreme gamer, the 9300 should meet all of your needs.
^^^ what he said.
post #4 of 34
The 9300 will more than play todays games great.

If you want absolute max everything... well you could OC a bit, but you'll still fall short of the XPS. It's not a huge difference though.
post #5 of 34
there are several recent threads on this same topic, its an overworked topic, check them out with a search thread, all the info you need will be there.
Happy Hunting.
post #6 of 34
Thread Starter 
I've already browsed much of these forums. I need a laptop that'll run games for the next two years, I'm getting rid of my desktop and need a beast of a laptop so I can take it to LANs, of which I goto at least once a month. I just feel that a 6800 GO might get outdated to soon.
post #7 of 34
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Originally Posted by []=[]ERP[]E
I've already browsed much of these forums. I need a laptop that'll run games for the next two years, I'm getting rid of my desktop and need a beast of a laptop so I can take it to LANs, of which I goto at least once a month. I just feel that a 6800 GO might get outdated to soon.
Of course it will run most games fantastically for next 2 years. As well as any other card? No present card, the ultra included, will do that. This is a train in motion, not a building.
post #8 of 34
Thread Starter 
SO I should be pretty safe with a Dell 9300 then? Will 2GB of RAM offer me any worthwhile benifits over a gig? Take into account I'm from Australia, where everything technologically wise costs 70% more.
post #9 of 34
haha That is terrible news when you have to pay more knowing people half way across the world is paying less. In my honest opinion, there is a huge difference in performance based on the fact that these are laptops and even the smallest difference can be considered a big thing. I believe the 9300 is more than sufficient. It has a longer battery life and can do 95% of what the XPS can do. And that 5% is basically playing games at maxed out settings which the 9300 can't do.
post #10 of 34
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Originally Posted by []=[]ERP[]E
I've already browsed much of these forums. I need a laptop that'll run games for the next two years, I'm getting rid of my desktop and need a beast of a laptop so I can take it to LANs, of which I goto at least once a month. I just feel that a 6800 GO might get outdated to soon.

Then you may never buy another laptop or desktop every again, product cycles for most GPUs these days are not even lasting 18 Months, Games like EQ2 are prime examples of how not to make a game engine, which it has been out for a while and right now maybe only the 7800 or an sli 6800 ultra setup may run it smoothly with the goodies turned on.

AT the moment laptops are not too terribly upgradeable in the graphics department. So if you get an XPS or i9300 either way you may be locked into one card only.

You can play pretty much all games out now with both laptops, just a hair faster with the XPS Gen2. If you have to have gigabit lan and the Ultra then go for it, You will probably make due with the i9300 though and save about $500 between the two, which you can put away for your next lappy purchase 18 months from now

If you get the i9300 I would suggest not getting the true life screen, just for performance in games, even though the 6800 Go is very close to the same performance as the ultra, it does not have the same memory bandwidth for 1920X1200 gaming as the latter does, not without overclockign that is. Thats not to say you cannot game with the i9300 and the WUXGA screen, just that the performance is better with less pixels.
post #11 of 34
Throughout most of the summer, I planned to get a 9300 because it's cheaper. I planned on overclocking the gpu like most here does. But that has potential consequences. The 9300 Go is actually a lower-speed variant and therefore, underclocked. And Dell did this for a reason.

"Take note though, the GeForce 6800 is not integrated to the notebook via NVIDIA's MXM interface and design spec and is at the mercy of the notebook's thermal design power envelope. As such, the GeForce Go 6800 on the Dell Inspiron 9300 operates at a slower 290MHz for the core and 590MHz DDR. A full speed variant has much higher clock speeds of 375/700 using standard DDR memory and there are even faster versions using DDR3 memory."

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...22&cid=14&pg=4

This section compares 3dMark scores between the 9300 Go deviant and its full speed version. The disparity is pretty significant.

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...22&cid=14&pg=5

I love the 9300. And still kinda do. I mean, I waited 4 months to get it. But with the recent 40 percent deals, and that article.....I had to give it up.

Tear.
post #12 of 34
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Originally Posted by eclypse3demons
You can play pretty much all games out now with both laptops, just a hair faster with the XPS Gen2.
This would be an example of someone speaking out their .

Unless he considers a ~2000 point disparity on 3dmark05 "a hair". Stock scores place the XPS2 with a 70%+ advantage over the 9300. Essentially, the XPS2 -beats down- the 9300.
post #13 of 34
That's funny wanting a video card for the next two years.. yeah, I'm happy mine can still keep up after a little more than 2 months.. who knows what there will be in Summer 2007. Hell, think back to what you were playing in Summer 2003.. UT2003 comes to mind and that was a Sweet game back then, looks pretty lame right now and any card on the block will play it..
post #14 of 34
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Originally Posted by CryHavoc
This would be an example of someone speaking out their .

Unless he considers a ~2000 point disparity on 3dmark05 "a hair". Stock scores place the XPS2 with a 70%+ advantage over the 9300. Essentially, the XPS2 -beats down- the 9300.
Right. and anyone seriously into gaming is playing their 9300 at stock speeds.. both the regular Go6800 and the Ultra are both NV42 cards, the Ultra gets the pick of the litter is all.. Now the Ultra does have Much faster RAM, I'll give you that one. DDR3 just kicks regular DDR all over the place. However, mine doesn't even break a sweat at the speeds in my sig and one day I'll just have to see how high it will go..
post #15 of 34
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Originally Posted by dman22
Right. and anyone seriously into gaming is playing their 9300 at stock speeds.. both the regular Go6800 and the Ultra are both NV42 cards, the Ultra gets the pick of the litter is all.. Now the Ultra does have Much faster RAM, I'll give you that one. DDR3 just kicks regular DDR all over the place. However, mine doesn't even break a sweat at the speeds in my sig and one day I'll just have to see how high it will go..
Ok. Overclock yours to your hearts content. I can and have done the same. 6300 on 3dmark05 is still ~2000 above even an OCed 9300. Still, it's more than a "hair."
post #16 of 34
n00b's

post #17 of 34
Thread Starter 
How many FPS's would the 6800 GO get with the same level graphics. As for OCing, shouldn't the 6800 GO be able to just about eqaul the Ultra? They are based on the same core, they have the same no. of pipelines, they are both GDDR3, what causes the Ultra to p00n the GO?
post #18 of 34
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Originally Posted by []=[]ERP[]E
How many FPS's would the 6800 GO get with the same level graphics. As for OCing, shouldn't the 6800 GO be able to just about eqaul the Ultra? They are based on the same core, they have the same no. of pipelines, they are both GDDR3, what causes the Ultra to p00n the GO?


Shoman is OCd on that Ultra, I think I get about 85FPS or so.

The 6800 Regular prolly get about 70fps or so.

And a OC'd 6800 Gets about 4k on the 3DMark05 while a Stock ultra lands 5200 and about 6k Oc'd so no they aren't even close.
post #19 of 34
think of like a toyota camry and lexus es300.
you pay for more for basically the name and little bits of better things.


*note to car enthusiasts: its just an analogy, even if its a bad analogy.
post #20 of 34
For Car Analogy, its more like a Corvette to a Corvette Z06.
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