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post #481 of 665
11/22/05 at 7:33pm
Quick question to those using Supertalent ram. I had purchased some supertalent ram to use with my system but when I install it and run cpu-z it still identifies the ram as "Kingston." I was wondering if other people's ram did this or that is not normal. Thanks, Rob
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post #482 of 665
11/22/05 at 7:41pm
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Originally Posted by RobDMB
Quick question to those using Supertalent ram. I had purchased some supertalent ram to use with my system but when I install it and run cpu-z it still identifies the ram as "Kingston." I was wondering if other people's ram did this or that is not normal. Thanks, Rob
they're probably both using the same manufacturer of the actual chips on the ram card, and CPU-Z does see my ST as Kingston.


in some BIOSs, though, I think you'll see it identified as ST, not Kingston.
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post #483 of 665
11/22/05 at 7:53pm
Ok.. Does the MSI bios show the brand of ram. Cause I went into the bios and didnt see anywhere where it showed the manufacturer. Also i have two sticks of ram which I think are both supertalent but the ram is downclocking to 133 mhz? After the bios fix should you be able to leave ram speed on auto to get 200 mhz or do you have to use the exact setting of 400 mhz? Thanks, Rob
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post #484 of 665
11/22/05 at 9:21pm
I set the speed in the BIOS to 400MHz. I have 2-1GB Super Talent SODIMM's, and on cpu-z I get the following;

Slot 1

Manufacturer: 00434154433000000
Part Number: MALABS
(No Serial Number)
Manufacturing Date: Week 32, Year 05

Slot 2

Manufacturer: Kingston
Part Number: K
Serial Number: 790A1B93
Manufacturing Date: Week 27, Year 05

Hope this helps? I'm clueless on how cpu-z determines this information, I'm assuming this information is somehow contained on each SODIMM? If not then cpu-z would have to have a database, which may not be up-to-date or incorrect? I'm curious if reversing the two SODIMM's produces identical results to these (i. e. same information in the above order), or if this information is truely in reverse order (as it should be if cpu-z is working properly)? Just a thought.
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post #485 of 665
11/22/05 at 9:48pm
Thanks, i set it to 400 mhz and it seems to be running at that speed. Anyone know what would happen if the system wasn't stable at this speed. Would it just automatically downclock or would you experience errors?
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post #486 of 665
11/22/05 at 10:58pm
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Originally Posted by RobDMB
Thanks, i set it to 400 mhz and it seems to be running at that speed. Anyone know what would happen if the system wasn't stable at this speed. Would it just automatically downclock or would you experience errors?
Windows would probably give you lots and lots of pretty bluescreens and stop errors. Not fun to deal with. :P

I have a pair of Corsair sticks in my 1029 running at 400MHz, no problems yet. Was it the Valueselect line, XMS or Corsair notebook memory in general that's not supposed to work well?

Also, I've got some more performance questions...

The guy on Futuremark's website with the best 3DMark05 score for his MS-1029 managed a score of 2732, with his core set to 445MHz and his memory at 378MHz. I can't get my core past 410 without artifacting, and the memory stalls at around 345. Even on stock speeds, the thing seems to be generating a lot of heat. I replaced the stock thermal pads with AS5. I feel like something isn't right. Suggestions? I thought about maybe picking up some small ramsinks that might fit over the video ram...

Another weird thing is that the guy apparently has a MS-1029 with 256mb of dedicated video ram. I thought they were all only 128mb?

Also, has anyone tried overclocking the CPU with A64Tweaker? I'm interested in trying it, but I have no clue what settings to use and I'm also paranoid about frying something.
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post #487 of 665
11/22/05 at 11:42pm
Thread Starter 
DamienC:

One thing to remember when dealing with posted scores on Futuremark's web site is that not all people define a successful overclock the same way. I would wager that at the core and clock speeds the MS-1029 owner you mentioned was running at, he was almost certainly getting artifacts and tearing...he MIGHT have completed the benchmarks, but imo, that's not a successful OC. In addition, you don't know what other measures he brought to bear on his testing, perhaps the laptop was sitting on top of an airconditioning unit....
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post #488 of 665
11/23/05 at 7:22pm
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Originally Posted by DamienC
Windows would probably give you lots and lots of pretty bluescreens and stop errors. Not fun to deal with. :P

I have a pair of Corsair sticks in my 1029 running at 400MHz, no problems yet. Was it the Valueselect line, XMS or Corsair notebook memory in general that's not supposed to work well?

Also, I've got some more performance questions...

The guy on Futuremark's website with the best 3DMark05 score for his MS-1029 managed a score of 2732, with his core set to 445MHz and his memory at 378MHz. I can't get my core past 410 without artifacting, and the memory stalls at around 345. Even on stock speeds, the thing seems to be generating a lot of heat. I replaced the stock thermal pads with AS5. I feel like something isn't right. Suggestions? I thought about maybe picking up some small ramsinks that might fit over the video ram...

Another weird thing is that the guy apparently has a MS-1029 with 256mb of dedicated video ram. I thought they were all only 128mb?

Also, has anyone tried overclocking the CPU with A64Tweaker? I'm interested in trying it, but I have no clue what settings to use and I'm also paranoid about frying something.

what's the model # of your corsair sticks?
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post #489 of 665
11/23/05 at 10:43pm
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Originally Posted by btacular
what's the model # of your corsair sticks?
I have a pair of Valueselect 512mb PC3200 sticks, model #VS512SDS400.
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post #490 of 665
11/25/05 at 9:42pm
So some corsair sticks do work properly then? Oh, and I just wanted to see if I have been getting this right. One stick of anything, will work properly, but two sticks of anything except for supertalent *and that type of corsair* works incorrectly?
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post #491 of 665
11/26/05 at 3:13am
I guess so... I can't speak for every single 1029 owner out there, all I can say is that my memory works in my particular laptop.
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post #492 of 665
11/27/05 at 6:19am
So about super talent memory, I found an online store that sells it, but they sell two different PC3200 sticks. I, however, don't know what the difference is. Anybody know?

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=D400SC512
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=D400SB512
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post #493 of 665
11/27/05 at 1:36pm
You may want the DC400SC512 as it's DDR400, the D400SB512 isn't listed at http://www.supertalent.com/SuperTale...U&sys=Notebook , however you need to ask someone else as both are sold by several vendors. The "SC" appears as "SAM" at http://www.malabs.com/detail.asp?com...ime%20warranty (which may stand for "serial access memory?"). I must admit that I'm VERY confused (as perhaps you are), however the 1GB SODIMM's I have are D400SB1G? The SB's have 16 chips while the SC's have 8 chips, I'm guessing, but maybe either (or neither) will work at 400MHz, all I know is that I found someone else (somewhere) who mentioned that 1GB Super Talent memory worked at their rated speed in this notebook? You may want to search this thead for "DDR400" or "512" or "memory," if I recall correctly several people here have mentioned 512MB SODIMM's, you may want to PM whomever is using 512MB SODIMM's in this thread?
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post #494 of 665
11/27/05 at 10:45pm

How to flash the bios?? MS-1029

Ok well since the new bios version came out for the ms-1029 i was thinking about flashing my bios but i do not really know how to do so. Is thier any way i can do so using my thumb drive. Well I could use some detailed instructions for a noob at flashing i just dont wanna f up and render my mobo dead so any one that can give me a detailed explanation of how to do a flash for the ms-1029 would be awsome.

Thanks
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post #495 of 665
11/28/05 at 6:26am
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Originally Posted by franksargent
You may want the DC400SC512 as it's DDR400, the D400SB512 isn't listed at http://www.supertalent.com/SuperTale...U&sys=Notebook , however you need to ask someone else as both are sold by several vendors. The "SC" appears as "SAM" at http://www.malabs.com/detail.asp?com...ime%20warranty (which may stand for "serial access memory?"). I must admit that I'm VERY confused (as perhaps you are), however the 1GB SODIMM's I have are D400SB1G? The SB's have 16 chips while the SC's have 8 chips, I'm guessing, but maybe either (or neither) will work at 400MHz, all I know is that I found someone else (somewhere) who mentioned that 1GB Super Talent memory worked at their rated speed in this notebook? You may want to search this thead for "DDR400" or "512" or "memory," if I recall correctly several people here have mentioned 512MB SODIMM's, you may want to PM whomever is using 512MB SODIMM's in this thread?
I'm pretty lost in this one. I thought that "SAM" stood for Samsung, as in those sticks used Samsung chips. I just want to know if people using Super Talent memory and succesfully pairing 2 sticks @ 400 Mhz are using the "SB" or the "SC" kind.
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post #496 of 665
11/28/05 at 11:31am
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Originally Posted by Hucsman
I'm pretty lost in this one. I thought that "SAM" stood for Samsung, as in those sticks used Samsung chips. I just want to know if people using Super Talent memory and succesfully pairing 2 sticks @ 400 Mhz are using the "SB" or the "SC" kind.
I think you're right on the SAM thing, serial doesn't rhyme with random! Like I said before, I found some info on the web WRT Super Talent 1GB SODIMMS, these definitely work, the only reason I went this route is that I had the money and wanted to max out the ram. If you can afford it, get 2-1GB SODIMMS of Super Talent (for a couple hunderd (+) dollars (?)). Super Talent only makes them as "SB." Otherwise, someone here who has 512MB SODIMM's working at 400MHz will have to respond. You may also try getting the SB's first, if they don't work, return them (restocking fee (?)), and get the SC's?
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post #497 of 665
11/28/05 at 4:48pm
is it me, or does anyone else have the problem of having to reinstall the driver for any usb device once it is inserted into a different port?
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post #498 of 665
11/28/05 at 6:25pm
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Originally Posted by poolboss
is it me, or does anyone else have the problem of having to reinstall the driver for any usb device once it is inserted into a different port?
Like do YOU have to re-install it, or does the computer automatically re-install? On every WXP computer I've ever used, plugging in the same device into another USB port had to reinstall the driver, but the computer did it automatically.
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post #499 of 665
11/28/05 at 8:22pm
Thread Starter 
I personally use the Supertalent sticks which use Samsung chips (you are correct, the SAM stands for Samsung)
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post #500 of 665
11/28/05 at 10:23pm
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Originally Posted by Unleaded
I personally use the Supertalent sticks which use Samsung chips (you are correct, the SAM stands for Samsung)
Do they succesfully pair up at 400 Mhz?
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