V2000z & L2000 Gaming performance.

Both of these laptops have integrated graphics cards that use RAM from the system memory. Integrated graphics cards are specifically NOT for gaming. While the RADEON XPRESS 200M is better than intel's GMA900 integrated graphics, it's still not up to par with a good dedicated graphics card and, despite 1 GB of ram, I suspect you may be disappointed in gameplay for modern games, including Guild Wars.

How much are you planning on spending? How portable do you want this laptop to be (weight, size, battery life)? I can make some suggestions with a little more information.

Accually unless you plan on playing alot of FPS games or EQ2 you should be fine with the integrated systems.

They are not great gaming systems but you can play 95% of the games out there on the newer IGPs.

You might look at some of the Acers or Asus models if gaming is you main purpose for the computer

I just got my new customized v2000z this week and have tried a little gaming on it, and I have been pleasantly surprised with the result. While it is not appropriate for someone who wants to do serious gaming with the latest titles, so far it has proved adequate for light gaming.

I have been playing World of Warcraft quite a bit, and with all settings at their minimums (except for texture quality on high and all shaders and terrain highlights turned on) and playing at 1280x768 I generally get 20-30fps in outdoor environments, 30-50fps in caves/dungeons, and 15-20fps in busy towns and cities. In all, it's very playable, and except when the fps dips below 20 feels very smooth.

I also tried an older game--Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets--and it plays smoothly and perfectly at 1024x786. Running 3dmark03 I got a score of 877, which puts it close to say a Radeon 9200. That's not great, but that was a decent card a couple of years ago, so as long as you stick to older games (or ones like WoW that let you tone done the eye candy) the v2000z works great for light gaming.

FYI, I have 1.25 gigs of RAM (at least 1 gig is a must) and the Sempron 2800+. Hope that helps!

Well, with 15 inch notebook options and the limitations you listed you won't find much in the way of gaming. 15 inch gaming notebook weigh more than 6 lbs but come with dedicated gpu's. Dell makes a 15.4 inch model that comes with the ATI X300 which will perform OK when it comes to gaming, the 128MB model can handle Battlefield 2 at the 1280x768 resolution with 2AA on and the setting on medium to high. Dell's 15.4 inch notebook does not come with a glossy screen. HP's top-of-the-line model comes with the ATI X600 gpu which can handle most current games on their mid-range settings. Then again HP's model is a 1.7 inch notebook. Sager makes a 15.inch that comes with either the ATI X800 or Nvidia GeForce Go 6800 gpu's but it weighs more than 6 lbs, it comes in at about 9 lbs and lacks a glossy screen. Gateway makes a retail notebook (can only be bought in stores like Best Buy) that comes with a 15.4 inch glossy screen and a ATI X600 gpu but it also weighs more than 6 lbs, I think it weighs about 7 lbs. Acer's new Ferari notebook comes with a ATI X700 GPU and a 15.4 inch LCD screen but it lacks a glossy LCD and costs around $2100 which is on the expensive side.

ANY IGP such as Intel's GMA900 or ATI's X200M should not really be used for gaming as they aren't meant for gaming. Notebooks in general aren't meant for gaming but there are some gaming notebooks out there. The true gaming notebooks are ALL 17 inch models and the few 15.4 inch models weigh more than 6 lbs, except the Acer Ferari comes in at around 6 lbs. If you want a gaming notebook then you should really look at 17 inch models and look at spending around $2100-$2500 to get the best performance. Dell's (128MB ATI X300), Gateway's (128MB ATI X600), and HP's (17 inch 256MB ATI X600) will provide low-mid range gaming performance with the new titles and will effectively run the older games just fine at higher settings.

Come on Korn, No you shouldnt have 20 hour EQ2 sessions with an L2000/V2000z but if you are a light gamer who plays an hour of Homeworld2 or as Runelord said a couple of hours of WoW at a time then your good to go.

Gaming isnt some magic ritual that needs just the right goat to work. I started Computergaming on a system that had less then 640k of RAM and a floopy drive. Im pretty sure that a 2ghz AMD 64 turion with a gig of RAM and and the best IGP on the market will play games.

Integrated is definitely fine for new 2D games. You see low performance usually only for intense 3D engines. I can't comment much on the intel extreme 2 though, because that solution seems to be much slower than the newer ones (GMA900 or 200m). I'm really surprised to hear that the 200m gets only 877 with 3Dmark03. That score is basically on par with the GMA900. I thought the 200m would beat the GMA900.

I saw a comparison of the GMA900 vs. the 200m using 3DMark05 and there was a big difference; the GMA900 had a score of 194 and the 200m was at 409.

the gma900 has a high theoretical performance, but in real world, it never is able to do anything. maybe due to driver issues, maybe intel just sucks. who knows

I'm not sure what you mean by "never able to do anything" but the GMA900 system I've tried can run more or less any sim/RTS game with no problems.

Even the GMA900 can play most games.

For some reason many FPS people think FPS is the only type of computer gaming.

This computer will play most games, but cotolay said he plays a lot of games. I don't know about anyone else, but if he does play FPS games, he will want higher frames per second than this computer can do well. I get dizzy and sick if I play FPS games on a computer with a slower card - it makes me feel cross-eyed. You might be able to squeeze out enough frames per second on the lowest resolution with everything set on low, but that's hardly playing games in my book.

Still, this should play most older games fairly well.

Yeah, I would imagine there might be problems with 3D FPS games, but even modern 2D sim/RTS games will work on integrated. I don't play FPS games myself so I don't care for the best dedicated graphics.

If you want to game and be light,Check out the Dell 600m and the Asus W3V

The 200M Kicks butt in gaming wont do like Doom 3 great or anything but it does better than my Radeon 9000 IGP in my laptop which i run CSS, BF2, and the latest good games with an FPS over 30... My GPU is ALOT OLDER than the 200m and it does great...

hey everyone, this is my first post in this sweet forum. ok, i was searching for the L2000 specs and how users rated it for gaming because i just passed by the Sam's Club and looked at this marvelous good-looking notebook. if im not mistaken, i think in ATi's site, they say that the core of the xpress 200m igp is 350mhz but, when i checked the adapter setting on the laptop itself, it said integrated DAC 400mhz ... < the same thing? anyway, i am saving up to buy this notebook for only gaming and some ;D high school work etc (im 15). i am a pretty clever performance squeezer and i bet i can make this baby do better than it can without overclocking or messing with the bios (except maybe the graphics ram sharing thing) (if u can mess with the bios in laptops) . i will make a paging file that is 4056MB, maybe use GameXP on it, have no icons on the desktop for more ram, use 16 bit color for more ram, remove special effects like arrow / window shadows etc for more ram., and adjust the graphics card settings so there is no anti aliasing no antistropic filtering (application preference then if i cant turn it off) and textures at perfomance, no vertical sync, so all i have is the game, a few textures, and graphics showing. i also saw on ATi's site that this igp delivers the same performance as the X300 . this is pretty good looking and cheap-priced to say its not really good for gaming. u just need to do the "stuff".. let me know what u guys think and btw, from what i've heard AMD is perfect for gaming and im planning to play BF2, and Generals / Generals Zero Hour and maybe BF1942/DesertCombat on this baby.

See this baby ....

http://www.behardware.com/art/imprimer/579/



A Asus MV6 can do it all.

Ati X700 128 mg.

2.4 Kg.

no, way, that notebook is really nice, only i saw that it had mobile cetrino and not amd, does it really matter? and is the mobility radeon x700 pci 64 - 128mb better than a Go5600 64mb? wow and it is almost for another couple of hundred dollars than the L2000. do u have one of these Edu? i really do need a light notebook but with gaming potential.

The Pentium m is going to beat the turion at just about every benchmark plus it will have much better battery life. If you have the money, go with the Pentium m. That said, I didn't have the money and chose to go with the turion in my Compaq v2000z and I absolutely LOVE it, but I don't play any games on it. The L2000 has onboard video (same as my v2000z) which just flat out won't play games. If you are in to playing newer games, especially FPS games, you won't want the L2000 - the frame rates will be terrible. The x700 is a very nice card and will play new games at medium textures smoothly.

If you're going to go with an Acer, you should look at buying a whitebox acer and adding your own hard drive, processor, memory and wireless nic. You can save a lot of money if you are comfortable building computers.

One other option for you is the Dell Inspiron 6000D (the 6000 comes in non-dedicated video card and dedicated video card options - the D denotes dedicated). It has an x300 which will play games better than the 200M of the L2000, but it's a 15.4" screen. You can probably get a 6000D with dedicated video for around $1100 if you wait for a good deal.