V2000z & L2000 Gaming performance. - Page 2

Is the Pentium-M that much more?? I never really noticed...

omg wow, i don't really know anymore , i have a zd7000 2.8ghz 64mb Go5600 and it does some games ok. really what i want is a really light notebook that has a brightview sceen and can play games on at least medium driver settings.

OK im sorry but this is just crap. The AMD 64 is as good if not better then the Pentium M in every Benchmark and it does 64 bit proccessing as well which intel does not do.

Dont listen to Dell fanatics they will try to sell you the brooklyn bridge by calling it the Golden Gate.

As for the L2000 I have one and it plays games just fine. I wouldnt get it if you plan on playing FPS games all the time but for anything else its great and Other L2000 users even play FPS's with it.

dude that's sweet, the L2000 looks gorgeous, im actually gonna go with that simply because it is so compact witha beautiful screen and AMD (gaming processer i guess) processor, ill install office software and stuff on it and at the same time, i will slip in a few good games and i totally go with you in Dell, i really disdain Dell, why do you think they give "24/7 Award Winning Customer Support"? because they offer you something way better than what u want, and their computers suck so bad that they need it LOL! for those who dont have problems with their Dell, ignore that please

ok ppl, i have an L2000 now the L2005CL model number and it has 1.8 ghz amd turion. it has 384mb of RAM all the video memory is not being used for system RAM. all for graphics. k heres the thing. i havent benchmarked it with 3dMark05 yet but i install NFS2 demo on it and it rran 50fps on 640x840 res, 25-40 fps on 1024x768 on not ultra low but low graphics in the in game settings. i dl the newest DX9.0c, 5.8 catylyst, notebook ati drivers and did "some" stuff. i installed BF1942 and played it on 1024x768 on all high settings, at 45-60 fps. now all of this does not include antistropic etc settings, i took all of that off and set the textures to high performance. i installed a CnC Generals demo on it, on all low settings and textures ultra high, it ran 25 fps. its not a bad notebook. only sad thing is i installed BF2 and all low settings (havent tried it on high performance textures catalyst settings yet) at 1024-768 res at 8 - 10 fps, changed it to 800x600 res, 11 - 15 fps and when i look at the ground, 25 fps. i only have 368 mb of RAM and i dont know if thats affecting my gameplay a little becuase i dont experience freezups. so anyway man this notebook is nice, perfect for games that came out before HL2 and BF2, im sure CS is going to run 30-40fps on low or med settings. cant wait to take it to school and use it

Congrats on your purchase. I would recommand upgrading the RAM but other then that I think you will really like your purchase. I know I do.

hey man, how did you upgrade your ram, what kind is it? during the following week, ill consider buyinf it a 12-cell battery and at least 1gb ram. and by the way, how the heck can you change the processor speed so i can have better battery life? and what do u do with your L2000 ;D

OK im sorry but this pronouncement that this is crap is just crap. The AMD 64 is not as good or better than the Pentium M in every benchmark. It does do 64 bit, which is cool, except that it's almost useless for the next year or two. One thing that even you can't deny is that the AMD 64 sucks more battery power than the Pentium M. If you think even that's crap, you're dreaming. I've said it many times, I love AMD, but the Pentium M is just better than the Turion. I've seen many, many benchmarks and reviews and everyone but a few anti-Intel fanatics on forums are the only ones that seem to disagree.

Anyway, let the flaming begin...

Im not flaming you, I just know that you dont know what you are talking about.
If you really looked at the benchmarks you would see that they are basicly even in all ways. the pentium M wins a few by a small amount and the AMD wins some by a little but all in all it basicly balances out.

As for battery drain it depends on what you are doing with the system,

The Pentium M will last longer if you are pushing the processor but if you are just surfing the web then the AMD will last longer becuase it has better power management.

Also you are talking about the ML series chips that are 30w but the MT series turion is 25 watt and thats less then then pentium M. Also you are not talking about chip sets or bus speeds.

Please dont tell people things about systems when you dont have a clue what you are talking about.

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Originally Posted by mwillman
OK im sorry but this is just crap. The AMD 64 is as good if not better then the Pentium M in every Benchmark and it does 64 bit proccessing as well which intel does not do.

Dont listen to Dell fanatics they will try to sell you the brooklyn bridge by calling it the Golden Gate.

As for the L2000 I have one and it plays games just fine. I wouldnt get it if you plan on playing FPS games all the time but for anything else its great and Other L2000 users even play FPS's with it.


LOLZORZ!!! wow a good fight between Intel M Centrino and AMD Turion. man i love this laptop, im going to benchmark it with 3DMark05 right now

ok guys i just 3DMark05'ed it and came up with the score of 440. i think i need to try 3DMark03 instead but i will do that later. btw just a couple more views till 1000 views

Haha - that's pretty funny. Not sure if you meant it that way. I gotta tell you, though, that I do know what I'm talking about. I realize you have decided to put a lot of stock into the Laptop Logic article, but I am using my own experiences to form my opinions.
Of course I'm talking about the ML series chips. Last time I checked, the L2000 didn't have an MT processor, it has an ML processor which, incidentally, has a maximum power consumption of 35 watts, not 30 watts (but I'm sure you knew that since you know exactly what you're talking about). If it did, we'd have to completely change the dynamics. The MT does use less power but I have no idea how it compares with the ML. Either way, you are trying to compare the Turion MT in power consumption and the Turion ML in speed to the Pentium M. That's something you would do only if you are particularly biased, which I am not.

I purchased a DV1000 laptop with a pentium m chip. I then purchased Compaq v2000z with a turion, so I would say that I have some experience with both procs. I will also say that the pentium m beats the turion in battery power, even when I'm just surfing the web. It also beat the Turion in just about every benchmark I ran. In the end, I returned the DV1000 b/c I was able to get the Compaq for about $400 less, so it was a no-brainer for me. Furthermore, I am extremely pleased with my laptop! I love it, and I love the Turion chipset. I was simply stating what I have found in my own tests and observations of two nearly identical laptops, one with a turion and one with a pentium m. Fortunately, I'm not worried about trying to convince you of anything - it's enough for me to know that I know what I'm talking about.
You're right, I'm not talking about chip sets or bus speeds - you have a hard enough time keeping straight what we are comparing to begin with, so I didn't want to make it harder for you to express your opinions masquerading as pronouncements.
Please don't tell me not to give my knowledge and experience to this forum, especially when you can't even keep your own facts straight. This is, afterall, an open forum where opinions are expressed and, for the most part, appreciated.

i just got a v2310us and it plays bf2 pretty good. on med. settings

Im really not all that interested in your personal tests. I have not seen them and I have no idea weather you have any clue how to test things well or not. I have seen multiple articles and in none of them is there any major differences that can be proved. I also have many years of profession experience and I also own one.

You can say what you want but unless you can back it up then its just you blowing in the wind.

P.S. there was nothing wrong with my logic, We have differing definitions of flame. To me it means useless name calling, you seem to think anyone that disagrees with you is flaming.

P.S.S. I have no control over these forums so do what you want but every time you give out false data I will call you on it.

Gee, you said it for me. I was thinking the EXACT same thing for you - just blowing in the wind.
Not at all, I encourage disagreements. However, "I just know that you don't know what you are talking about" is pretty close to name calling in my book, especially when you don't seem to know anything of the sort, as evidenced in your last statement ("I have no idea weather you have any clue how to test things well or not"). The truth is, you don't know the first thing about me. It's fine to disagree, but suggesting that your opinion is fact is something you do quite a bit too often for my taste. Your opinion is not fact, despite how many years of professional experience you have or how many turion laptops you have. Consequently, I have many years of my own professional experience, but since that doesn't have the first thing to do with a v2000z vs an l2000, I didn't think it was relevant in the comparison.
Ditto - although I won't correct your grammatical mistakes, just the obvious false statements like the max. wattage of an ML Turion processor.

what are you guys getting for 3dmark01se scores with the 200m?

Hey man, good question, im going to do that right now with the L2000 with ATi Xpress 200m 128MB - i will update in half an hour so.

*update* the score for 3DMark01SE -demo version settings 1024x768x32 no AA etc.- on my L2000 with the 200m is 2811 .

wow, thats terrible haha

lolzored, im going to test it again because tere are a few settings ive changed recently and my games are running a bit faster. maybe tommorrow.

My default and playable HL2 settings on my 200M:

http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl28mv.jpg

how much dedicated memory does the 200m get on the l2000? (none, 16, 32)