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hahahahahahahahahahahahaha yeah, oh i heard too that intel is announcing a dual core pentium M. and then a 64 bit version pentium M. i guess we should just keep waiting till we're on our deathbed and then buy the best computer available.

Where are you guys hearing it will come with DVI out now? I remember reading discussions that it was an idea being thrown around but never anything more than rumor. DVI out isn't anything that important for me, but if the refresh will be available in numbers in mid-September and with DVI in late September or early October, I could wait 2 more weeks to get the more total package.

well, initial spec (well, the spec ISTNC posted initially) had dvi output. That was later changed back to vga, and one of the resellers (ProPortable, i think) said it might make it back sometimes towards mid september. That however was prior to the recent delays/events.

I heard Eddie say elsewhere that he does not forsee the z70va getting dvi unless it is be accompanied by yet another model change.

edit: here's a very recent quote from ProPortable (posted here) regarding this:

So then technically the first shipment will have DVI?

Certainly makes me glad that I excercised caution and discretion by not participating in the pre-order frenzy. I want my DVI!!!

wow, this is funny... 17 pages thread with NO review/pics
all talks

There's already been two reviews, at least one with pics, in the ASUS review forum.

Wait, what happened here, it went from Educational Bid to Educational Project?? The plot thickens
The fact of the matter is that ASUS is NOT going to come clean, they can not afford to, so use your imagination.

Rick

How naieve of you to think this ( or to believe what you are told ). I think at this point that all the other resellers should demand an answer from ASUS regarding this matter, and demand action. Unfortunately you will have to wait for almost two weeks until a certain individual returns from vacation.
The problem is, most of you are not seeking the truth, instead you would prefer to continue the drama surrounding it in an attempt to destroy our credibility, but its not working. Ever since this fiasco came to life, and the infantile bashing began, it has been great for business, so please, carry on.

Rick

I think your reputation is in your own hands. Resellers job will be solely to point prospective customers to the situation in the future and let them decide either for you or against a reseller who has seemingly alienated him self from a fairly tight knit seller community aside from other things you have done and said recently. Your not the only one that business has been good for so you can stop waving your flag. Its either the back to school season which you take part in for the first time in retail laptop sales or its all this drama or both. In either case you should be thanking us for taking so much action. Looks like the rest of the resellers going out on a limb made you some money. Your credibility you destroyed your self. For every satisfied customer you have and pleased with your practices now there is an equal number of people who think all this was very questionable. We did not do this to you, you did it to your self. So do you care to tell people how it is that you got these notebooks? and how many you actually shipped? Or do you continue to hope that this will be brushed under the carpet by everyone? You really never said it straight out as i can see unless i missed a post. My aim was not to destroy your credibility it was to make sure you destroyed your own credibility. Obviously this is the wrong place for me to go on the offensive but my probing got you to reply so my job is done. Good luck to being aproved for any special po's in the future. Its nothing personal right? You said it your self its all business and you will do whatever you have to gain leverage, you care not about what everyone else does even though you "borowed" something from everyones business when you got in this game not even half a year ago. This is the end result. Your name and not so needed to know info plastered on every single forum. Not too bad .......for now.

So you know, so far Discount Laptops has not exactly attacked your reputation; if anything, he's been the most informative and impartial this whole time, consistantly avoiding the drama. The fact is, if you did screw Asus over in order to make this sale, you're going to be on very shaky ground with them; plus, if you did get an educational discount, I'm sure Asus is going to be a bit upset that they didn't get the money they should've gotten. Again, this is all assuming the worst, which may not have even happened--we don't know, and your credibility on these forums has been shot.

What's worse is that you're basically acting like a child, trying to lash out at people instead of controlling the situation--something DL saw mature enough to do. Have you considered taking this seriously and addressing the problem? BEcause every action you've taken--thus far--has only said you're guilty of the things you're being accused of. You're basically saying "Ha, Asus can do nothing," immediately after saying you're more or less innocent. The real reason I'm suggesting people make no more orders with you is because, quite frankly, who knows if you're going to be getting anymore?

EDIT: Just as a suggestion, its never too late to rise above the situation, so consider setting a good example for your company. ANy new buyer that comes to these boards--and they come everyday--is going to see these threads and think badly of ISTNC. Plus, if I saw another reseller acting this way, it would make me very hesitant about purchasing from their company (g2p, here's looking at you). Too many resellers have dropped the ball this time, not just you, Rick. Like I said, a few of the resellers have basically jumped in and gotten involved in an argument--on a public forum where sales come from, no less--impuning everybody's reputation.

Of course, none of this excuses Asus' actions (or lack thereof). Asus has basically cast a shadow of doubt on itself as well, and when the CEO gets back after vacation, it'll probably be addressed. Unfortunately, it also says a lot that, despite knowing this before they went on vacation last monday, they chose to ignore it.

For the record, I have NEVER once lashed out at anyone, not my style. Secondly, I have zero issues with DL, because they chose the better approach.
So, I will go out on a limb and say that if any potential buyer chooses not to purchase from us because rumor/speculation/infantile resellers, then so be it. It is not my responsibility to make this right, it is the responsibility of ASUS to make it right

Rick:

Not much more to say because, quite frankly, you've done a far better job in your last two posts of impuning your character than any other reseller or poster that frequents these forums could ever have done.

Congrats on all those sales and on beating the system.

I'm sorry, but did I miss the memo stating that the ASUS reseller community became a Band of Brothers? Quit trying to deceive these people, the only business you care about is your own, as you should.
With regards to any "special PO's", better get your sources back to work, afraid you fell short on that one as well.

"let's keep this civil." -EDIT: Djembe

The first batch of Z70Va's which are now available do not offer DVI or integrated bluetooth (though it is optional with a Mini-PCI module). These were sped to market, as best I can ascertain, to mollify the channel. Mid to late September Z70Va's will arrive with DVI and integrated bluetooth.

Rick is God.

Kai

now I know why other resellers don't get involved in these forums. It's not worth it, watching meltdown after meltdown of various resellers as they combat others over the tens of orders coming in, scrapping for the refuse in a 12% profit margin business, crowing over small victories and crying over missed opportunities and unfair manufacturers, desperately scratching out their existence and reputation in the eyes of a few hundred customers who will jump each moment to a different model in hopes of a few more tics on the benchmark scale.

The fortunes of men are not made squabbling on NBF.

Definitely not, it's all ballbearings today...get in while you still have a chance!!!!

Plastics, Unleaded. the future is Plastics.

OMG, I'm gonna call my portfolio manager and give him a piece of my mind. Plastics, who'd have thunk it?!?!

Anyone wanna buy some ballbearings? They are priced to move!