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Aaah band of brothers may be to harsh but a band of compititors is a better term. We all get along for the most part nothing like this ever happen. Not like you were not invited into the "clan". You just chose to separate your self. How can i put an effort into getting a real story.? So far this is the only real story i got. It just so happens that you dont offer a real story. What is the real story then? I may have missed it in your numerous posts but i dont belive you ever answered the question. How is it that you got these units shipped before everyone else? I understand that you shipped em via carrier, i know the proccess but what was it that allowed you to get them way before everyone else? I know what you have to say about it in private but i would like you to say it here. I think its fair no? Am i not asking the question clearly enough or are purposely choosing not to answer in a public forum? As for me spending the time building the biz. I think you forgot one thing. We both came from a "boiler room" back in 2000. There is no need for that. I am sure you know what it takes to go from the local computer guy to a nationwide reseller and service provider. I dont antagonise you on how you manage your business and i dont tell you to work better at it. What you need to do is work better at either covering your grey areas or present proof that you dont have any grey areas. Neither one of us needs to work on our managerial skills.

I think some of us DO, however, have to learn when to stop beating the proverbial dead horse.

It's over...move along, nothing to see here.

Most of you seem to blame all this on isntc it seems. Yet asus is the one at fault if anything. The whole idea of this argument is ridicules anyways. If one reseller decides to forgo information about their own business practices they have every right to. Yet still some believe that it is isntc's obligation to tell the world every little detail about the status of these notebooks. The who point is this whole fiasco from the beginning was pointless and if anything created a bad image of all the resellers involved.

I don't think they're blaming ISTNC that much, they're more like "criticizing" the way he got them and is doing business. Well that's what I think from all the posts. Its just that ISTNC is prancing around saying this and that, but not really saying how they got them. If they did, the topic would've been over, but like I said before, they're just prancing around saying "nga, nga, you will never know... Ha ha". I'm pretty much fed up of all this crap, just like many. All this drama got me looking for a different laptop, getting tired of the Z70V talks. I've been checking out the Clevo's. Mighty nice, but I like the screen on the Z70V though...

If Rick wasn't God, you'd be a contender for the position thanks to this post.

Kai

Ah, Coffee, I knew you had all that rep for a reason!

Resellers, thank you for keeping your discussion civil. I'm glad I didn't have to delete any posts.

Aha Rob so you are glad you deleted my posts? I see how it is. I curse your z71v.

note what I said previously: I'm glad I didn't, as in did not, have to delete any posts.

And you can curse my computer all you want. It doesn't care and neither do I.

I am in total agreement. INSTC has been very professional & courteous everytime I've contacted. I don't like the fact that so many people are throwing mud on them without any hard facts.

I haven't gotten my Refresh laptop from INSTC yet because of a misunderstanding (I was away on a business trip & just got back on Aug 25. I put a note on my order saying that they can take their time with the order since I won't be back until then. Somehow, my ordered got delayed and forgotten. That has been corrected. My order was built the day I called & is in the testing phase now. Rick also promised to ship it overnight to me when the tests are done) very soon.

I just had to make a post to defend INSTC.

My personal opinion on the current situation is that it has been caused and exacerbated because all the resellers involved have information they cannot or will not share with each other and/or the people of these forums, so everything they say ends up sounding cryptic, no matter how it was originally intentioned. The only group that knows the whole story is Asus, and they won't publicly tell anyone what happened because no matter what occurred, it will make them look bad.

*sigh* coming back from a business trip and I see this. Not sure whether to close it or not heehhe....

I saw IST going around the bush and have not exactly answer powernotebooks.com question.

http://www.notebookforums.com/showth...66#post1161066


I think this is a simple and fair question, no?

I agree with this completely. Personally, I think all the "finger pointing", "name calling", and flaming should stop until Asus releases an official statement on the matter. None of the hearsay and speculation does any good whatsoever. All it does is piss everybody off and make the situation 100 times worse that it should be. Once Asus says something (if they ever do say something), then everyone can argue about the facts and discuss everything that happened, but until then it doesn't make any sense and there will never be a resolution to the conflict.

Bravo

I don't think anybody has said that Rick is not helpful and good at his job; the situation is specifically with his dealings with Asus. While its true that Asus is the one at fault, the spark was ISTNC, so most of the flak is being blamed on Rick and his company. Once more, ISTNC is not a bad company at all, but quite frankly, I'd wait until all this is resolved before fully restoring my trust in them. But then, that's just me. If this had happened with any other reseller--be it G2P, DL, whatever--I would've responded the same way.

And I didn't mean that you were "childishly" lashing out, although calling another professional "infantile" is basically falling under that guise. You basically were not acting professional at all, and this entire thing has been entirely unprofessional. What's worse is that you STILL have yet to say anything. You can't even lie and say "I haven't done anything that would cause my customers to distrust me." What's with that?

Ignoring g2p, whose behavior has been far worse than ANYBODY involved in this whole scheme, I think people have been, at lack of a better word, pretty normal about it. I mean, people are confused and bewildered, and with you (Rick) being at the center of it, they're expecting you to set things straight--and your not.

But you're absolutely right about onen thing--regardless of the level of support or service that any reseller offers, they're all after a profit. Period. That's the definition of business. Profit is their reason for owning such a business. So tell me--why would they intentionally hurt their profits by taking action on "speculation"? It doesn't make sense. You're basically saying they're hurting their own profits out of some kind of childish envy or greed. There's absolutely no logic.

Aren't you basically saying you're guilty? :\

Per Redmumba's request in the official thread, this thread is also closed. Until there's some word from Asus on the Z70va controversy, any new thread opened about this subject will be considered recovering old ground and will be promptly closed.

However, reviews or comments about the Z70va notebook (not the controversy surrounding it) are welcomed!