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post #1 of 27
8/21/05 at 5:20am
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Well i got a 9300 with 6800 OCed to 350/711 with 1.86 ghz proc and 1.25 gigs of ram. nvidia drivers 77.72.
CS:S runs beautifully and i get a 3dmark05 score of 4100 but bf2 runs like crap. it stutters often even on medium/low settings on the middle resolution. Also when i try to force the widescreen resolution as is widely discussed on this forum and others, i cant seem to get it to work, my shortcut says: "C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Battlefield 2\BF2.exe" +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +szx 1440 +szy 900
THe reason i dont think its working is because the minimap is oval and i heard that if the widescreen is done right then the minimap is a circle. so those are my two problems. if anyone knows whats up then id be appreciative. also if you have a similar setup then id like to know how well it runs for you.
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post #2 of 27
8/21/05 at 5:26am
The minimap is a bitmap so it will always be oval in widescreen resolutions. As far as the bad performance goes, try putting lighting and effects to low and turn off shadows and dynamic lighting. Also make sure you don't put textures to high as 1.25gb isn't really enough for that (I have no problems with it on my 9300 with 2gb but my desktop A64 has 1gb and it thrashes the HD like crazy if I try high textures).

I haven't had any problems with performance really with BF2, running it at 1920x1200 with 4xAF and no AA. I have most stuff stuck on high except shadows which I have off and dynamic lighting, lighting and effects which I have set to low.
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post #3 of 27
8/21/05 at 6:45am
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Originally Posted by Hiryuu
The minimap is a bitmap so it will always be oval in widescreen resolutions. As far as the bad performance goes, try putting lighting and effects to low and turn off shadows and dynamic lighting. Also make sure you don't put textures to high as 1.25gb isn't really enough for that (I have no problems with it on my 9300 with 2gb but my desktop A64 has 1gb and it thrashes the HD like crazy if I try high textures).

I haven't had any problems with performance really with BF2, running it at 1920x1200 with 4xAF and no AA. I have most stuff stuck on high except shadows which I have off and dynamic lighting, lighting and effects which I have set to low.
whats your usual fps? in the 30s?
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post #4 of 27
8/21/05 at 6:50am
I haven't checked my actual FPS, just going by the general feel of things. The only times I get any noticeable drop in performance is when looking as smoke or an artillery strike (also the blur effect from nearby explosions or cannon fire makes it visibly slow down). I would guess my FPS is probably in the 30s most of the time though yes.

I did find that the drops in framerate during artillery etc were lessened by putting dynamic lighting, lighting and effects on low.
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post #5 of 27
8/21/05 at 6:52am
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Originally Posted by Hiryuu
I haven't checked my actual FPS, just going by the general feel of things. The only times I get any noticeable drop in performance is when looking as smoke or an artillery strike (also the blur effect from nearby explosions or cannon fire makes it visibly slow down). I would guess my FPS is probably in the 30s most of the time though yes.

I did find that the drops in framerate during artillery etc were lessened by putting dynamic lighting, lighting and effects on low.

bf2 is a strange game, you may think that you are getting like 70 fps but it can be down to 40 and still be silky smooth. Kind of weird that it runs so well at low frame rates without tearing.
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post #6 of 27
8/21/05 at 7:51am
Wonder if you tried using non-official drivers? I currently use laptopvideo2go.com modded .inf's and I see a 600-700 score increase in 3dMark2k5. However, a score of around 4000 is definately sufficient for BF2.
How many processes have you got running when you play BF2. I usually have around 40, which is already too many!! My suggestion is try and disable/stop some of the unecessary services via start>run>services.msc or end some processes in the control/alt/delete screen. Around 30 processes would be optimum. Anything less is even better. Also go to start>run>msconfig>startup and disable some start-up programs. Then, go get yourself Diskeeper9 (trial edition) and run a boot-time defragmentation.

Hopefully, your computer will run better now!!
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post #7 of 27
8/21/05 at 8:10am
I would strongly agree about closing as many apps as possible before playing BF2, especially if you have less than 2gb of ram as the game is a huge memory hog and every process running in the background will eat into the memory available to it and force use of the hard drives page file which is very bad news from a performance point of view.
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post #8 of 27
8/21/05 at 11:57am
Yup, jaggy playing sounds like not enough memory. I play the game @1440x900, 2xAA, 8xAF, everything on high. You should be able to do the same except have the textures and dynamic lighting and shadows on medium (unless you increase your card overclock, then you could probably run everything on high too). Your wide screen code looks fine too.
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post #9 of 27
8/21/05 at 1:03pm
Your studdering is caused because of a lack of memory usually. Turn off vsync as well.
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post #10 of 27
8/21/05 at 5:17pm
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Originally Posted by Mr. K6
Yup, jaggy playing sounds like not enough memory. I play the game @1440x900, 2xAA, 8xAF, everything on high. You should be able to do the same except have the textures and dynamic lighting and shadows on medium (unless you increase your card overclock, then you could probably run everything on high too). Your wide screen code looks fine too.
holy crap thats nice. do you have a sound card? I turned sound options to low.

if i set the textures and effects to medium, and dynamic lighting/shadows on low then what should set everything else to?

I have a 35-40 processes. cant seem to get rid of any more since i checked them all out at process library and theyre all legit. i reformated a little while ago.
heres a link that shows them all as well as my task manager's performance tab.
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7...anager23rn.jpg

A lot of the time the stuttering is not me but other people around me. the people are running arounds and they skip and whatnot. also when im in a vehicle it will occasionally stutter and ill find myself way off the road even though i wasnt pushing any buttons. when it stutters it does this wierd playback thing where i see myself going going forward then rematerializing a few feet back and doing the same thing again then i rematerialize in a ditch.

btw what is the fps command?
and info about what other people are getting would really help.
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post #11 of 27
8/21/05 at 5:28pm
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oh i forgot to also ask if texture filtering should also be set to low and if the audio rendering should be on software, hardware, or creative something. i do NOT have an external or extra sound card
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post #12 of 27
8/21/05 at 5:55pm
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Originally Posted by rfii
if i set the textures and effects to medium, and dynamic lighting/shadows on low then what should set everything else to?
Set geometry and terrain to at least medium (high doesn't dramatically increase the eye candy with these but low is much less nice)

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I have a 35-40 processes. cant seem to get rid of any more since i checked them all out at process library and theyre all legit. i reformated a little while ago.
heres a link that shows them all as well as my task manager's performance tab.
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7...anager23rn.jpg
There's a very big difference between a process being legit and being needed, a lot of apps today tend to stick things in the taskbar or the background that are not needed at all. For most apps you only need anything to be running while you are actually using the app (with the exception of AV and firewall).

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A lot of the time the stuttering is not me but other people around me. the people are running arounds and they skip and whatnot. also when im in a vehicle it will occasionally stutter and ill find myself way off the road even though i wasnt pushing any buttons. when it stutters it does this wierd playback thing where i see myself going going forward then rematerializing a few feet back and doing the same thing again then i rematerialize in a ditch.
What you are describing is the rubber band effect that can result from bad ping or packet loss (basically the game predicts where you or other players will be then checks with the server at regular intervals to see where they really are, when it doesn't get a response for a while from the server or it is too delayed it messes up the client prediction and you or other players you can see appear to get bounced back a bit). To sort this you need to check whether other apps are using the net connection while you are gaming and also if you are using a router make sure any other comps on the network are not using the connection while you play

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oh i forgot to also ask if texture filtering should also be set to low and if the audio rendering should be on software, hardware, or creative something. i do NOT have an external or extra sound card
I set the filtering to low ingame and then force AF from the nvidia settings.
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post #13 of 27
8/21/05 at 8:40pm
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Originally Posted by rfii
Well i got a 9300 with 6800 OCed to 350/711 with 1.86 ghz proc and 1.25 gigs of ram. nvidia drivers 77.72.
CS:S runs beautifully and i get a 3dmark05 score of 4100 but bf2 runs like crap. it stutters often even on medium/low settings on the middle resolution. Also when i try to force the widescreen resolution as is widely discussed on this forum and others, i cant seem to get it to work, my shortcut says: "C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Battlefield 2\BF2.exe" +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +szx 1440 +szy 900
THe reason i dont think its working is because the minimap is oval and i heard that if the widescreen is done right then the minimap is a circle. so those are my two problems. if anyone knows whats up then id be appreciative. also if you have a similar setup then id like to know how well it runs for you.
1.25gb is fine for offline play. But online play with 1.25gb is jerky. You should move up to 2gb.
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post #14 of 27
8/21/05 at 10:58pm
1GB is fine for online play, you just have to use medium textures. I have everything else on high on my desktop (2.4GHz Clawhammer, 6800GT, etc.) and the game plays flawlessly. However, what you are describing are ping issues, not performance problems. Test in singleplayer first, or find a server with a ping of less than 100. The command for fps is renderer.drawfps 1
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post #15 of 27
8/21/05 at 11:54pm
As Mr. K6 said, make sure you that the lag is not coming from the server.
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post #16 of 27
8/22/05 at 5:14am
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well I originally thought this was lag but then some things happened that changed my mind. i have hardly any servers that are below 100 when look at them in the server browsers, but once i enter my personal ping is like 50 or less usually and only one or two people in like a 32 person server will be over 100. also i have no stuttering or lag issues at all with counter strike source. And when i set everything to lowest of low settings then it ran smoothly, but very very uglily.
even with textures low and effects on low with shadows/lighting off, everything else on medium, then it was still stuttering like mad.
i am not forcing any af or aa. also how can i turn vsync off for bf2.
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post #17 of 27
8/22/05 at 5:24am
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oh yeah, once again i forgot something.
i tried single player with 16 players on high everything and it was fairly smooth with just slowdown when there were like >5 people on screen.
and online when i was getting bad performance, my fps was 60/15 whatever that means. sometimes that 60 went as high as 90 and usually no lower than 45. its like the slowdown happens when i turn quickly or people are around.
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post #18 of 27
8/22/05 at 5:39pm
Most likely a ram issue if you're getting those kind of framerates. When you spin around it has to render and load all that stuff into memory. It's like when I first got this computer and had the min 512mb in it and played hl2 maxed. Looked great had awesome fps but as soon as something moved ingame it was chugging away.
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post #19 of 27
8/22/05 at 6:07pm
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what does the first number mean and what does the second mean?
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post #20 of 27
8/22/05 at 7:03pm
First number is "Current FPS", I think the second number is some kind of average.
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