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I'm so damn mad right now... Apacer memory..

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Well hello.. I got my Dell 9300 yesterday and I runned memtest86 over the night. When I woke up It have runned for over 6 hours and I had 7 passes and 5 failures. So this means the memorys are bad?
So today I have to check each one of the 1GB stick and see if both are defected.

How mad can you be? I'm about to throw everything out from the window right now.


newegg don't ship to Sweden otherwise I have got the memory from them.
post #2 of 12
Lesson(s):

Use Newegg.com in case you need to RMA.

Use a company / brand that you can trust. (Kingston, OCZ, Crucial, Corsair)
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 
What can these errors in memtest do ? BSOD's ? hanging ? less fps ? lagging ?
If I won't notice any different dunno if its worth the money to send back... but I will call the store today and tell them and hopefully they pay the things.
post #4 of 12
Think of ram as short term memory. If you have holes in your short term memory, what happens? You forget what you were doing, where you placed things, etc etc. Exact same thing is going to happen with your laptop, only your machine doesnt know how to cope with those kinds of things. In short, yes, you are more prone to hanging and BSODs than other people.

You shouldnt have to pay anything to have the ram sent back. Not sure on the companies return policy but if you just bought the sticks and theyre defective, they sohuld send you some new ones free of charge and find a way for you to send the defective ones back free of charge. They of course wont agree to do that at first but enough arguing will more than likely get you what you want.

Definitely replace them though. Defective ram is a big no-no.
post #5 of 12
Thread Starter 
ok thanks kambrian I will make everything I can to get new ones


btw. I don't use ESD protection but I'm always very careful when I handle with memory chips. I NEVER touches the memory chips. Can I have made the damages myself?

Running one stick at the time now going to see if both memorys are defect or only one..
post #6 of 12
Its likely that the RAM is just crap and you didn't cause any ESD damage. You should always buy name brand RAM. People go out and buy alot of crap RAM because its cheaper and say it runs the same and then they wonder why their having system issues down the road with blue screens and other memory related problems. OCZ, Crucial, and Kingston are three of the best brands for laptop memory.
post #7 of 12
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
Its likely that the RAM is just crap and you didn't cause any ESD damage. You should always buy name brand RAM. People go out and buy alot of crap RAM because its cheaper and say it runs the same and then they wonder why their having system issues down the road with blue screens and other memory related problems. OCZ, Crucial, and Kingston are three of the best brands for laptop memory.


thanks for the post : )

Well I wanted 2GB and Apacer was very cheap, but I kind of regret is alittle now : ( . I have no job atm so whats why I picked the cheapest.. otherwise I would go with Samsung/Crucial or Kingston(we dont have OCZ here).

If my laptop seems to work correct shall I stick with the memorys?
But first I'm gonna try to send them back and get new ones.. I'm just so tired of sending back things : (

thanks everyone!
post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 
I have runned with 1 stick for 3 hours and 23min now with 7 passes and no failures.. how much more shall I test it? thx
post #9 of 12
Quite simply, you get what you pay for
post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 
4 hours and 36min now with 1 stick 9 pass 1 error.. can I stop or do I have to test more ?
post #11 of 12
7 hours and only 5 errors is more or less typical of memory. You see, we aren't running ECC memory, so there are bound to be errors. If all non-ECC memory ran for hours on end with no errors, then there wouldn't be a market for ECC memory. That said, I'd finish testing 5 hours on this stick, then try the other stick for 5 hours. Unless you get alot of errors, the stick is fine. Play some games (the CS:S is really good at finding memory errors), if you get many crashes or a blue screen, then it's time to RMA.

Honestly, at this point there's no reason to buy more expensive "brand" memory (aren't they all brands? He's not buying generic you realize). Again, Dell's BIOS is locked, so any memory module installed is going to run at it's pre-programmed SPD timings of DDR533 4-4-4. Since they're all running this standard, there's no reason really to get anything beyond the cheapest stick as long as it's from a good reseller with a good RMA policy. I know some of you are going to argue and complain that cheap memory sucks and that's why it crashes etc. etc. The truth is all memory manufacturers punch out bad sticks every now and then, who doesn't after thousands of good ones? Look around the forum, you'll see kingston fail, OCZ fail, Transcend fail, etc. etc. all manufacturers get bad chips or produce a bad stick, it happens, that's why you buy RAM with a good RMA policy. Now, if we were overclocking, that'd be a different story, I'd say go with the highest quality stick you can, but that isn't the case, so save your money for something else.
post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 
wow big thanks to you Mr K6 =)

As I said I only got 1 error and 9 passes on 4 hours and 30min and with the other memory I got about 3-4 errors on aprox 4 hours..

So you suggest I keep these memory if I don't get bluescreens or hanging in games?
Will the error's cause performance loss? if not I will keep them until they give me a BSOD or often hang and then return them.. 1 year to try them =)

Thanks alot I feel much safer now!
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