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Can't play DVD's with Toshiba SD-R2102/WinDVD 4

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Toshiba SD-R2102 on an 8880 with XPPro

Everything else plays, CD's, programs... except DVD's. I put in a new harddrive and the CD/DVD hasn't played DVDs since. Using WinDVD4. Got the patches from the Sager Site.

Firstly, autorun doesn't work and I did everything at Microsoft Help to try and get that running - but no luck. When I open explorer, I can see that .IFO files are linked to WinDVD - but it won't play them.

Sometimes a movie will freeze on a frame and just play audio. usually the WinDVD player will just hang up...

Should I re-install drivers for DVDplayer? am I missing something with the WinDVD software?

(this is making me verrry angrrryy )
post #2 of 21
Ross, If your new HDD now occupies the drive designation that was previouslu used by the DVD, that may be problematic. Before, trying anything real exotic, I'd go into device manager and simplu uninstall the DVD. Then reboot. Windows, should then refresh everything and may correct your problem.

Assumptions: I am assuming that the DVD's are "Store Bought". If not, the media used for DVD-R's might be the cause as the Toshiba drives tend to be real picky about a lot of DVD-R media.
post #3 of 21
Thread Starter 
G-Omaha, nice to meet you, I've used your suggestions for other problems I've found in the forums - thank you for your prompt reply!

I uninstalled the DVD player (duhhh - should've tried that myself) - and reinstalled WinDVD4. Autorun works now and I click on the Intervideo icon to play the DVD and it freezes up. If I try to close the WinDVD program, then the whole computer hangs and the mouse pointer freezes.

Maybe try the WinDVD 7? It used to work great but now I'm stuck...

I am now looking at all the WinDVD forums to find answers....

(DVD's are totally store bought)
post #4 of 21
Thread Starter 
Uninstalled WinDVD4, installed BlazeDVD - same problem - plays a few seconds of audio and then freezes -

Also, one of my DVD's came with a self launching player (InterActual) so I let it install and same problem - complete freeze.

The player freezes and if I try to close it, the whole computer locks up.

EVERYTHING else plays fine from the player - CD's, programs, etc. - just no DVD!!!

so it must be my Sager and not the software...

hmmmmm... ?
post #5 of 21
Do you have any other CD/DVD software installed. I'm mainly talking about ones that make your CD/DVD look like a HDD. INCD is one and Drag to Disc by Roxio is another. These type of programs do weird things to the system in regards to DVD usage. Also, if you have other software like ULEAD, ROXIO, AHEAD, and ARCSOFT, please let me know. It might still be a software compatability issue; however, most likely a hardware issue. I NEVER EVER allow InterActual to be installed on my sytem - It's pure garbage IMHO.
post #6 of 21
Thread Starter 
Trust me - I dumped Interactual right away!

I uninstalled everything I could think of that might be CD/DVD software, though I didn't have anything that you suggested...

I did have Nero 6 installed there and it did install a non existant extra cd/DVD ROM drive at some point...

AHA! This might be where the problem started!

Although Nero is now uninstalled and I removed the phantom drive...

I've checked all my hardware - no mysterious drives any more - Also, I ran "Hijack This" And I cannot find anything running that has to do with CD/DVD player.




(P.S. bless you, G-Omaha for your work!!!)
post #7 of 21
Does it work now? If so, install nero; however deselect the INCD subapplication as that would be the one that most likely installed the "phantom" drive. I think that you can uninstall it in Windows if it did get installed in error.
post #8 of 21
Thread Starter 
Does not play DVD's yet...

The WinDVD 4 just freezes! And if I try to close the program, the whole computer locks up.

Every bloody thing to do with Nero is uninstalled now - same problem...

I've checked all my hardware - no mysterious drives any more - Also, I ran "Hijack This" And I cannot find anything running that has to do with CD/DVD player.

Shoudl I remove Premiere, #1DVD Ripper, DivX and everything to do with video?
post #9 of 21
I can't remember having any problems with Premiere (That's the Adobe version) nor DivX.

I have never used #1DVD Ripper; so I can't say anything about it. You might try to "rip" a DVD and see if you encounter any errors. If you can rip a DVD and simply can not play it, the problem would seems to be driver or codex problems.
post #10 of 21
Thread Starter 
Hi G! You work Sundays too? Wow! Thanks!

OK - #1DVD ripper works fine.

-I'm telling you, everything works great except it won't play DVD's!!

New Information:
I removed everything to do with video including QT and RMP. Of course I can't remove WMP10 but I did install the NVidia software so that my WMP10 could play DVDs and guess what - it does - sort of - as long as I keep moving the mouse in full screen (no, really)

In full screen, as it shifts between showing full and showing the controls, it advances in jerks a few frames... Also, with this configuration, I can go to each chapter and it shows the first frame but doesn't play

Interestingly, WMP10 won't play .avi's in full screen any more, though it's showing the DVD in full screen. I tried to rollback my WMP10 but it rolled back to 10 again... I never had this problem with WMP9!

I've read in some forums that it is tricky, but possible, to uninstall WMP10 and install WMP9...

Are others having issues with WMP10? Could the source of my grief be the fault of Microsoft? Probably
post #11 of 21
Thread Starter 
Ahhh... lookit what I found at the Toshiba website:

DVD-ROM can not play a DVD in the drive or certain types of CD media (i.e. CD-plus, etc.)

* Is the DVD-R/-RW Combo drive driver loaded

- I think so - otherwise ti wouldn't read CD's etc., right?

* Is the DVD disc the correct format for the type of system that you are using? (i.e. on a PC an ISO9660 IBM compatible PC format as opposed to Apple/Mac HFS disc or UNIX disc formats which will not function).
-YES

* Do you have the correct software applications program/drivers installed to run a DVD disc?
-WMP10 and WinDVD 4

* Has the Windows DVD-R/-RW Combo drive software driver program been corrupted by a virus. Run a Virus Scan program and repair if possible. Contact Technical Support if the Virus renders the software drivers not useable.

-Not according to Norton
post #12 of 21
Sounding more and more like a driver/codex issue. You indicated that the DVD's were store bought. I'm assuming that they are the legal published types and not a knock-off sold outside of the USA. Can't tell from Public Information if ou live in the US or not. The driver corruption could also be an issue; however, if that were the case, the drive most likely will not work at all. If the ripper makes good copies of the DVD you are tryingto watch and you can wath the created disc on a normal DVD player, then, my best guess is a driver problem of one sort or another. You might look for K-Lite Codec Pack and install that to see if it helps. It has a ton of codecs that tend to help in many cases. Here the URL: http://www.k-litecodecpack.com/
post #13 of 21
Thread Starter 
Hey G - I'm in Canada and for sure the DVD's are proper store bought.

I've posted for help on a couple of other places - If I get more info I'll fill you in and we'll both know. But yeah - I'm afraid it's a codec problem...
post #14 of 21
Thread Starter 
K-lite doesn't fix anything - same thing...

so not codec - DVD drivers???
post #15 of 21
Lets back way up.... You started having the problem when you installed a new Hard Drive. I assumed that this was a 2nd or 3rd HDD. Is this the case?
post #16 of 21
Thread Starter 
nope - original, Midern Sager installed HDD Toshiba Drive died - so I replaced it with the exact same drive.

Used my Midern Recovery CD and Device Drivers and Utilities to format the new drive.

Used Windows Update to upgrade to SP2.

Used Driver Genie Pro to determine which drivers needed updating.

Updated all drivers.

Everything works just fine - except DVD reading/recording (I even successfully burned some Data DVD's - just not movie DVD's created in Adobe)

A reader in a different forum states;

"ive had issue with this drive for ages..it came with my asus m6n 3 years ago...in the first 6 months its working fine..but over time...it refuses to read burnt dvds..it has trouble burning dvds (1/5 success rate - it fails when burning the lead in track)...then it has gotten to the point where the drive is only useful for cds..i can only read original dvds...i find the drive useless.."

Now - if the Toshiba HDD and the Toshiba CD/DVD both become useless after only a year - what does this say about Toshiba products?

I really need to burn some DVD's for my business - so if I can't figure this out by the end of the week - then another part of my Sager is headed to the rubbish bin and I'm out another $100 or so... I have a warranty but I can't wait long enough to ship it down...
post #17 of 21
Thread Starter 
I replaced the installed Toshiba HDD with the same model after it fried.

Reformatted with the Midern Recovery Disc.

Updated my drivers with my backup CD

Used Driver Genius Pro to determine which drivers needed updating from the web.

Installed Nero6.

Burned an audio CD and a data DVD

Installed WinDVD 4 and that's when I found I had this problem...
post #18 of 21
I think that it's time to get a new ODD. The Toshiba units, IMHO, are really bad. I replaced the one on my 8790 with a NEX ND6500A for about $120, at the time. I think that you can get one. Here is a URL for the updated version: http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=172510 ($102 and includes shipping costs).
post #19 of 21
Thread Starter 
Hi G Omaha -

Just qick update for you.

Here is my correspondence with Toshiba;

Hello,

The last option is to update the firmware on the drive. If updating the
firmware doesn't help please contact the RMA department for warranty
verification and repair/replacement options.

Toshiba does not endorse specific brands, however recommends using only a
quality, major brand media. End-users have reported good results with
Maxell, Fuji Film and TDK.

Visit the below website for a firmware update. Only download the "known"
version of the firmware update not the "Patched version".

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.ph...&manufactor=31

Please see below how to access the current version of firmware. Depending on
what your current firmware version is, that will determine which version
you'll update to. If you current version is 10xx (xx=whatever)then you will
update to 1031 and if your current firmware version is 17xx then you will
update to 1731 and if your current firmware version is 1Mxx then you will
update to 1M31 and so on. This is a credible firmware site that Toshiba
recommends to it's customers. Be sure to click on the "Known" versions not
the "Patched" versions of the updates. You never want to update with
firmware that is not for your exact model and or firmware version. This will
make your device inoperable and it will not be recognized by your system. If
you have a version other than 10xx there is no update available for your
drive.

Below are instructions to access the current firmware version on your drive:

Windows 9x/ME:

'Start' -> 'Settings'-> 'Control Panel' -> 'System' -> 'Device Manager' ->
'+' sign next to CD-ROM

Doubleclick the Toshiba drive -> 2nd tag -> 'Settings' ->; 'Firmware
Revision Number'



Windows 2000:

'Start' -> 'Run' -> Type 'MSINFO32'

First please activate 'Advanced' under the menu 'View'

Click 'Components' -> 'Multimedia' -> 'CDROM'



Windows XP:

'Start' -> 'Run' -> Type 'MSINFO32'

Click 'Components' -> 'CD'



Wait for System Info to refresh.



Here are the registry settings for all CD/DVD devices installed.

The 'PNP device ID' lists the Drives model number, a long underscore and
then the F/W.

The column may need expanding to view the 4 digit number after the long
underscore.

You will also notice a transfer rate entry.

The value shown here is dependent on the media inserted in the drive at the
time of refresh.

Toshiba Technical Support

-----Original Message-----
From: @hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:56 AM
To: qroberson@pcs-sj.com
Subject: RE: Toshiba CD/DVD SD-R6112 Won't play DVD's


Hi,

I did everything you suggested and I have the same problem.

I have some DVD files on my computer and it won't play them - so it's not
the lens.

Any other suggestions?

Frustrated,

Ross J Harvey


>From: "Quishawn Roberson" <qroberson@pcs-sj.com>
>To: @hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Toshiba CD/DVD SD-R6112 Won't play DVD's
>Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 07:25:16 -0700
>
>Hello,
>
>You might try forcing windows to re-detect the devices and reload the
>drivers. If there was a controller problem, that may fix it. You will need
>to go to the Device Manager and open the DVD\CD-ROM Drives listing. You
>will
>Right click on the CD/DVD Drive (And any others) and select 'Un-install'
>from the Drop-Down Menu. Next you will need to open the IDE ATA\ATAPI
>Controllers listing. You will need to right click on the Bus Master IDE
>Controller (there will be 3 choices under the controllers listing: Primary,
>Secondary and a 3rd choice, choose the 3rd choice) and select 'Un-install'
>from the drop down menu. You will be prompted to re-boot, so do so. It will
>need to re-detect the devices and will take longer to boot. Once it
>finishes
>it will prompt for a second reboot. After that finishes, try the drive
>again.
>
>If it was reading DVD discs and it has recently stopped, it may be that the
>DVD lens needs to be cleaned. DVDs and CDs use separate lasers but use the
>same lens; the lens may be only clean enough for the CD laser to work. You
>might want to try cleaning your drive with a "DVD-ROM lens cleaner." They
>typically run between$ 5-$10 and it is the best way to find out if the lens
>is dirty. You can purchase this DVD-ROM lens cleaner at most any store
>that
>sells electronics.
>
>If the above step doesn't solve the problem the laser could be failing and
>the drive will need to be replaced.
>
>Toshiba Technical Support
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: @hotmail.com]
>Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 2:09 PM
>To: sdd_techhelp@pcs-sj.com
>Subject: Toshiba CD/DVD SD-R6112 Won't play DVD's
>
>
>Toshiba CD/DVD SD-R6112 Won't play DVD's
>It plays absolutely everything else, but not store bought DVD's.
>
>It will show the first frame of a chapter, then stall. If I try to close
>the
>media player, it freezes the whole computer completely. As I said,
>everything else will play fine on the same media player.
>
>Software is both WMP10 with NVidia trial and WinDVD 4. I also tried
>InterActual video player, and Blaze Video with exactly the same results.
>
>Everything has been unistalled that I can think of that might conflict with
>video playback (RMP, QT, Nero, Blaze)
>
>Toshiba site recommends:
>
>
>DVD-ROM can not play a DVD in the drive or certain types of CD media (i.e.
>CD-plus, etc.)
>
>* Is the DVD-R/-RW Combo drive driver loaded
>- I think so - otherwise ti wouldn't read CD's etc., right?
>
>* Is the DVD disc the correct format for the type of system that you are
>using? (i.e. on a PC an ISO9660 IBM compatible PC format as opposed to
>Apple/Mac HFS disc or UNIX disc formats which will not function).
>-YES I am using store bought DVDs
>
>* Do you have the correct software applications program/drivers installed
>to
>run a DVD disc?
>-WMP10 and WinDVD 4 - re installed a couple of times
>
>* Has the Windows DVD-R/-RW Combo drive software driver program been
>corrupted by a virus. Run a Virus Scan program and repair if possible.
>Contact Technical Support if the Virus renders the software drivers not
>useable.
>-Not according to Norton
>
>Any Help? Any body? Much thanks!
>
post #20 of 21
Quote:
I have some DVD files on my computer and it won't play them - so it's not
the lens.
What do you mean by this? If you have DVD files on the HDD and can't play them, then the ODD is not the problem as you are not using it.

I'm confused - please enlighten me.
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