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Great results 6200 go t/c with 533mhz mem.

post #1 of 75
8/30/05 at 4:38pm
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Go get fast memory if you want great results with your 6200Go card!!. Sony's selling these notebooks with slow 400mhz memory even when Sonoma's fsb is 533mhz. Since the 6200 shares system ram, faster ram gave me great results compared to the stock 400mhz ram. Here are my results in 3DMark both with 1GB DDR2 3200 ram (400mhz) and with 1GB DDR2 4200 ram (533mhz). Both test where ran with 2 x 512mb (dual chanel) configuration. U need both slots with same speed ram to run in dual chanel. Dont mix speeds as it will run at the slower ram speed. 6200 OC'd to 635/370.

1GB DDR2 3200

3DMark 2001.....9564
3DMark 2003.....3,098

1GB DDR2 4200

3DMark 2001....11117
3DMark 2003....4188
3DMark 2005....1802

The system's a vaio S460B, 1.73Ghz...u kno the rest.
Now playin' WOW at ~39 fps at native res.

Also got a Sager NP3790 with a 2Ghz dothan and a 128Mb Rad9700 and my sony is beating it bad...
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post #2 of 75
8/30/05 at 4:45pm
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Originally Posted by OiSkinhead!
Go get fast memory if you want great results with your 6200Go card!!. Sony's selling these notebooks with slow 400mhz memory even when Sonoma's fsb is 533mhz. Since the 6200 shares system ram, faster ram gave me great results compared to the stock 400mhz ram. Here are my results in 3DMark both with 1GB DDR2 3700 ram (400mhz) and with 1GB DDR2 4200 ram (533mhz). Both test where ran with 2 x 512mb (dual chanel) configuration. U need both slots with same speed ram to run in dual chanel. Dont mix speeds as it will run at the slower ram speed. 6200 OC'd to 635/370.

1GB DDR2 3700

3DMark 2001.....9564
3DMark 2003.....3,098

1GB DDR2 4200

3DMark 2001....11117
3DMark 2003....4188
3DMark 2005....1802

The system's a vaio S460B, 1.73Ghz...u kno the rest.
Now playin' WOW at ~39 fps at native res.

Also got a Sager NP3790 with a 2Ghz dothan and a 128Mb Rad9700 and my sony is beating it bad...
what are the settng you are running, if everything is set to performance, i think that is is pointless, otherwise, woot woot .

memory is proven not to make this much difference, can we have some kinda proof, sorry but this sounds fishy.
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post #3 of 75
8/30/05 at 4:51pm
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Im Trying to print-screen my results, u know how???
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post #4 of 75
8/30/05 at 4:56pm
can we get an exact config now how you did this, except for the memory, all your settings.

Sorry no i don't know how to print it out.
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post #5 of 75
8/30/05 at 5:06pm
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shit im trying but cant get it done, ok got 1.73 Ghz, 60 GB 7200 rpm HD, OCd 6200 as i stated, Always on setting, 80.40 drivers with modified .inf file, dunno what else to say other than this things fast. Go upgrade
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post #6 of 75
8/30/05 at 5:12pm
print screen works like this, you hit the print screen button, and it gets put on your clipboard, just paste it into paint or something.

what are the setting in your nvidia drivers. look in performance and quality, most important is the image setting.
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post #7 of 75
8/30/05 at 5:23pm
also where did you get the drivers, and the mod you used.
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post #8 of 75
8/30/05 at 7:10pm
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You can get the drivers here: http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/...showtopic=7427 .

Look for the mobile modified .inf for the 80.40 drivers in his signature. You then put that file in the directory where you extracted the 80.40 drivers. Go to System Information/Hardware/Device Manager/Display Adapters double click on yor card and choose Update Driver under the Driver tab. Select "Install from a list or specified location" and enter the dir name where you extracted both the 80.40 drivers and the modified .inf file. Hope this works. I'll post all my settings once i get home since im working at CompUSA in puerto rico. Hope this help, enjoy ur lappie.
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post #9 of 75
8/30/05 at 7:15pm
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Just bought 2 x 1GB ddr2 4200 sodimms at www.pagecomputer.com for $104 each!! thats $208 for 2GB of 533mhz ram ...should get the order this friday, i'll let you guys know
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post #10 of 75
8/30/05 at 7:52pm
Which 60g 7200 rpm are you using?

It is not logical, DDR2 operates at a 2:3 memory to CPU ratio.

Any hardware experts want to chime in?
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post #11 of 75
8/30/05 at 7:54pm
Wow, that completely demolishes any 9700 64mb S series computers (in 3dmark05 at least)... I'm mad, I'll have to double check all my benchmarks now...
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post #12 of 75
8/30/05 at 8:41pm
well the S does support DDR2 533 so the FSB to mem ratio can be 1:1 except for the fact that the FSB is "quad pumped" so it is actually only 133mhz.

I just don't see how this works, i need to get me some ram and try this out.

my only guess is that the image setting is set all the way to max performance, and hence it completely destroyed image quality for the sake of speed.

But this does not explain the jump in speed assuming of course that both tests were under the same driver set.
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post #13 of 75
8/30/05 at 9:57pm
Again, DDR2 operates only at a 2:3 memory to CPU ratio. Anyone hoping to realize the benfits of PC 4200 will be using a desktop with a larger fsb than 533, on a notebook it doesn't make a difference.
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post #14 of 75
8/30/05 at 10:32pm
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do the math, 2:3 when youre using 400mhz ram in a 533mhz fsb, ram being the bottleneck here. You get 1:1 with ram, bus and cpu comunicating at same speed. Your 6200 ram is OCd to say 635, then you have slow 400Mhz ram to share...doesn't 533Mhz (dual chaneled) close the gap a little?? Of course it does. By the way, my settings are set to Quality, AA and AF are at 2X...just lemme get outta my work and i'll post my complete settings. As for the 9700 vs 6200 thing, I own them both and even my Sager wich is 2Ghz and has 128 dedicated video ram is being outperformed by my S. Im not in any way saying my Sager is a weak performer, its just that the S is a tad better, plus its a lot more portable (4.2lbs vs 7.9).
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post #15 of 75
8/30/05 at 10:47pm
Pygo, I don't understand 2:3 at DRR2 533, your either at 2:1 or 1:1, are you trying to say that the S does not support DDR533, because it does, check the specs at Intel, and you can find memory for it anywhere.

and OiS, did you just say you had AA and AF _ON_ and you saw those numbers, this just become more and more unbelievable(sorry), because that would mean if you turned AA/AF OFF you would see faster numbers, if you were to break 5000 on 3Dmark03 you would Be in X700 land, so you understand how I just don't buy this.

there has to be some kinda proof.
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post #16 of 75
8/30/05 at 10:59pm
Here's an example.

DDR2 is quad pumped and operates at a 2:3 memory to CPU ratio, so if your FSB is set at 200MHz, DDR2-533 or faster will operate at 533MHz (200MHz FSB x 2 x 2/3).
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post #17 of 75
8/30/05 at 11:01pm
Not that the S doesn't support it, it just won't benefit from it.
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post #18 of 75
8/30/05 at 11:10pm
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Home already, first...Blink youre right, AA and AF are set to "Aplication Preference", Performance setting, V sync on. Second, i dont have the need to prove anything to nobody, download the drivers, buy good ram and a tad faster HD and you will see good numbers. I just posted this since Its easier for me to do these tests because i work at CompUsa and we got lots of ram there just for testing purposes and because i own two great systems with both video cards and wanted to let you guys know the outcome . You wanna do it fine, if you dont, fine too...its your system guys and you do with it whatever you want. Im not telling anybody to go out and OC your cpu or do some sick stuff like 750/400 to your 6200, faster ram and/or HD and better drivers wont hurt anybody, quite the contrary. My 2 cents.
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post #19 of 75
8/30/05 at 11:15pm
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pygo, theoric conclusions lead nowhere. Do a stress test of your system with both ends and then compare. Technology is full of theories that dont prove nothing. TEST is the name of the game. I dont thing Intel released a faster fsb if it cant take advantage of faster components.
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post #20 of 75
8/30/05 at 11:36pm
OIS, now, i believe those numbers, try it one quality, and tell what you get.

okay, pygo, DDR2 is not quad pump, the FSB is quadpumped DDR2 533 is running at 266mhz, the Bus is running at 133MHz, but have no idea what crazy stuff intel is doing to "quad pump" so I would make a fair guess that ratio os 2:1 or 1:1.
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