What to do with Linux?

Remove it and install Redhat

JK man...you should get some of the following if Suse doesnt already have them as default :-

MPlayer - DVD's VCD's etc.
XMMS - Audio (Amazing player...probably the best there is)
Adobe Acrobat
Flash plugins
Yahoo Messenger

Those are some of the things I installed and ive stopped with them...

Oh and of course - Wolfenstein Enemy Territory!!!

and there are LOADS of free games like chess etc. that I just love...have fun!!

8887, Suse and 1394 success?

Has anyone succeeded in fixing the 1394 installation hang problem with Suse 9.1+ on an 8887?

During installation the Suse installer completes detecting USB, then starts detecting ieee1394 and hangs. I haven't found a solution that allows 1394 to work.

I'd rather not disable it - but how do you disable 1394 at installation and then enable it later, after installation?

Recommend Bleep Media Player instead of XMMS if you are using Gnome (BMP is a gtk-based fork of XMMS and is much nicer).

Recommend xpdf instead of Acrobat - why go commercial/closed-source if you can get the good stuff clean?

Recommend Gaim for all your instant messaging needs. There is a Windows port too, if you want to maintain the same app accross platforms. http://gaim.sourceforge.net/

Agreed I use Gaim on Win at work. I'd also recommend Open Office, Gimp if you're into photo editing. Xchat for IRC. That's all that come to mind right now.

I would say stay away from anything that uses RPM as a package manager.
I think Debian is more solid, and apt-get is very convinient (Yoper is a great distro because it has apt-get and it supports both deb and rpm packages).

Gentoo is great, but not for the noobs (or semi-noobs).

Some of my favorite proggies in linux:
Office: Openoffice
Chat: Gaim
Net: Firefox
Email: Thunderbird (all 4 so far also have windows versions...very good apps)
Video Player: Mplayer
Audio Player: XMMS

other cool proggies:
Superkaramba
kooldock (kdock or dxdocker)
rpm-get (apt-get for rpms)
baghira theme (for those who want the OS X look).

cool sites:
kde-look.org (for themes)
distrowatch.com (general linux news)


Distro I currently use: Simply Mepis 2004.4

Absolutely. RPM is the mother of all problems.

All depends

anything you would do with windows you can do with LInux

i have the same question. about what do i do with linux.
i do have a small job as a school student tech support guy. and i heard they use ... i think... redhat linux. but is training and learning with the linux i have still good to do. i have kanotix.

should i get a book or take a small class to learn the konsole commands and such.

i installed it and havent used it really since i got my graphics adapter in my desktop working.

Programs... Suse comes with most everything you will need.

RPM definitly doesnt stand up to Debian's package manager, but in my experience Suse does much better for newer folks.

Office- Open Office.

PDF- Acrobat runs fine and causes no problems, whereas xpdf occasionally has some problems reading certain PDFs I have come across.

Internet- Mozilla, choose either firefox/thunderbird.. or go with the Mozilla suite. Also Ximinian comes with Suse and is a pretty capable email/calendar program

Audio- XMMS runs fine for me for audio playback

Video- Xine Note: There are probably several frontends installed on your machine for Xine, I just cant remember all their names right now but they wont be listed as Xine

What else you need to do?

In as far as the taking a class for learning commands in linux... How easily can you teach yourself computers? If you can pick them up pretty easily(You have to be honest withyourself here) then no. If you tend to have problems take the class, it may make things easier, and has the added advantage of teaching you the commands instead of your having to search for them(Took me years to learn about the ps command for example

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well my thing is im real lazy. so teaching my self with no other perpous then to teach my self would be odd. i need a task to compleate to teach my self, or i feel like im doing nothing.

Sry bout spelling.

I have these 2 books i recommend them

http://www.hackinglinuxexposed.com/

http://www.hk8.org/old_web/linux/lnut/

I too have recently got debian up and running and am looking for tutorials and other things to do.

I have many books by O'Reilly, which are awesome, but still would like free lessons or tutorials because, like someone else said, learning for the sake of learning gets boring for us task oriented people.

I know linux can do what windows does but I want to explore more components of the operatiing system: for example I have a book on bash shell and now am learning how to program the shell; this was perfect for me and I feel I am learning alot about linux.

What are some other good ideas like this?

As far as Linux in a nutshell, it is always far behind the currently available commands and it is not much help for a newbie unless you are going to go through the book and learn ever command. I have a seldom used copy on my bookshelf.

Check out Debian GNU/Linux 3.X Bible. It comes with pretty good reviews.

i dont see much books or at all for kanotix

If you really want to learn it, and teach yourself things at the same time, Build a linux distro from scratch. Then repeat a couple of times till you get to the point you can tweak it yourself for your individual computer. I was working on this myself because I couldntfind one for Audio I liked till I found Agnula and learned a bit by doing that. Once you do that, try to find other ways you can tweak stuff by hand. Yes there may be GUIs for this, but typically doing it by hand will not only teach you things, but you can get a moie specific level of customization on it. Plus the added advantage of doing things by hand is you know everything that is installed or has occured, and those random error messages you may see will start making sense.

Just my 2 cents on things though.

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i dont think i could do that. i never programed b4... outside basic on a pcjr

well i kinda relised something. if i want to learn linux. the linux i can use when i get a tech job. does learning kanotix work. or if it dosent or is too hard to intergrate. what distro should i get. (that was a question from my dad)

shuld i "waste" my time dling fedora? i mean its based off of redhat which is used by most buisnesses

Building your own Linux distro from scrap isnt a matter of programming really. Sometime do yourself a favor and take a look at Linux From Scratch(www.linuxfromscratch.org) They have a pretty good guide set up to step you through it and explain what most of the steps are there for. Then the catch is going from the base system, and building things like an XWindows system on top of it(One of the more difficult things to do short of programming I assure you so dont take it on lightly and adding in the programs you want.

Also take a look at tldp.org (The linux Documentation Project) as it has a LOT of HowTos on various topics, if you do want to try building a distro from scratch take a look at anything they have on the bootup process especially and general info. Take a day and just look through what is there, see what is interesting to you and read it off and on as you can and are interested.

Linux is linux, no matter what the distro, the core componets are the same. The Difference comes from the programs on top of it, which vary from distro to distro. So learning the configuration tools for one distro wont help you but so much if you switch later on, which is why it is important to learn the basic way of configuring things first, and then move on later to the distro based ways. There are distro independant tools as well, linuxconf is supposed to be a rather good one though I have never used it, for configuring your system.

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Linux is just a kernel

Completely true, though I tend to consider the GNU software suite that forms the core of 99.9 percent of linux distros out there a part of it also

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