1.7GHz equivalent to 3.06GHz? - Page 4

Moderator: Please delete this post... I thought I was responding to some misconceptions about the Mobile P4-M vs the Mobile P4.

What misconception did you respond?

Mobile Intel Pentium 4 Processor - M (FSB400)
0.13 micron
2.60 GHz, 2.50 GHz, 2.40 GHz, 2.20 GHz, 2.0 GHz, 1.80 GHz, 1.70 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.50 GHz, 1.40 GHz, 1.20 GHz
20,8 W - 35 W

Mobile Intel Pentium 4 Processor (FSB533)
0.13 micron
3.06 GHz, 2.80 GHz, 2.66 GHz, 2.40 GHz
59,8 W - 76 W

Mobile Intel Pentium 4 Processor (FSB533) with HT
0.13 micron
3.20 GHz, 3.06 GHz, 2.80 GHz, 2.66 GHz
59,8 W - 76 W

Mobile Intel Pentium 3 Processor M (FSB100-133)
0.13 micron
1.33 GHz, 1.26 GHz, 1.20 GHz, 1.13 GHz, 1.06 GHz, 1 GHz
Low Volt: 1 GHz, 933 MHz (133MHz FSB), 866 MHz, 850 MHz, 800 MHz (100 FSB)
Ultra Low Volt: 933 MHz, 900 MHz, 866 MHz, 850 MHz, 800 MHz (100 FSB and 133 FSB)
3,3 W - 22 W

Intel Pentium M (FSB400)
0.13 micron
1.70 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.50 GHz,
1.40 GHz, 1.30 GHz
Low Volt: 1.20 GHz, 1.10 GHz
Ultra Low Volt:1 GHz, 900 MHz (0.13m)
4 W - 24,5 W

Intel Celeron M Processor (FSB400)
0.13 micron
Standard Volt: 1.30 GHz, 1.20 GHz
Ultra Low Volt 800 MHz
7 W - 24,5 W

Mobile Intel Celeron Processor (FSB400 133 100)
0.13 micron
400 MHz FSB: 2.50 GHz, 2.40 GHz, 2.20 GHz, 2 GHz, 1.80 GHz, 1.70 Ghz, 1.60 GHz, 1.50 GHz, 1.40 GHz, 1.26 GHz
133 MHz FSB: 1.33 GHz, 1.20 GHz, 1.13 GHz, 1.06 GHz
Low Volt: 866 MHz, 733 MHz (133 MHz FSB), 650 MHz (0.13 Micron)
Ultra Low Volt: 800 MHz, 733 MHz, 700 MHz, 650 MHz (0.13 Micron)
30 W - 35 W

Conpain

Simply put it this way, Centrino is meant for laptops, which, of course, are not typical of those desktops that runs with the latest equipments. The advantage centrino has is battery life, which is a big concern for a laptop, and it offers decent performance. Of course a centrino's benchmark would be slower than the p4 or p4ht, but remember it is built to be that way. A p4 or p4ht in laptops will give u 1 hour of battery at max because it uses more juice to put out more juice for your games. But is it necessary? I dont find it worthy to have that extra 5-10 FPS when i can have 3 more hours of battery life.

Clone: It's not always all about the extra FPS in games, There are other areas that users would like a laptop to excel at.

A friend of mine went to some Intel Developers Conference, and by the looks of it he came out with two important pieces of information that I will adhear to:
1) The reason the Centrino "outperforms" a Pentium4M is because once both are removed from AC Power, The Centrino withstood at 1.3 (Default 1.4Ghz) and the P4M jumped down to 1.1Ghz (Default 2.6) - General statement.
2) All of the Sockets will soon be obsolete (This is a concern for Desktop users) by November of 2004.
Just some things to think of

Conpain-> I don't know why you write such an untruth.
The Athlon / Athlon XP even outperformed the P4 in Sandra Benchmark. Even with the new Nortwood "C" the Athlon XP with Barton Core scores very close to the P4.

What I wrote is not an untruth. I mentioned that some synthethic benchmarks give the wrong impression. Take for example the bus bandwidth of the P4 yet it uses it very efficiently giving the wrong impression.

Conpain > The AMD vs. P4 dispute was conflagrant because the AMD CPU reaches the same scores like the P4 with more MHz. You know the analogy Ferrari-high-RPM-engine vs. big-block-V8? There is now words about such a thing what you told - e.g. less Sandra scores!!!

I know the analogy. I am trying to bring this very point! And in addition, that many synthethic benchmarks indicate the P4 would be better, but it wasn't.


The AMD XP CPU reaches the same processing speed like an adequate P4 "B", but with less MHz.
The Pentium M (Banias) CPU processing with each MHz like an Pentium 4 "C". The P4 3.2 HT is exactly twice as fast as the Pentium M 1.6. It could make ALU and other operations twice as fast. The AMD XP 3200 scores nearly twice as fast too.

ConPain> And I thought the P4 managed pipe jumps pretty well. The cache size doen't coun't if it not optimezed. And if you would be a techi you even knowed that the P4 has the best optimized cache management up-to-date (x86 architecture!).

Huh??! I am not talking about managing the cache, I am talking about the price you pay when you have a long pipeline in a branch stall. And anyhow, the P4 cache management hardly has to do with the x86 architecture as much as what happens back door with the real hardware level risc-like micro ops architecture.

Oh and I am indeed kind of techi

- Raist