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I'm gonna dip back into the Alienware vrs Dell animosity well...

The week before last I ordered 3 Dell 2001FPs for users at my company. Upon opening the first one last week, I noticed the the display's backlight was bleeding into the screen so that if you had no input attached, the black screen had a light area. Well I talked to dell on Mon. afternoon for 5 minutes and got an RMA number. On Weds, another 2001FP was on the shipping dock. When I opened it though, for some reason, the screen was too red and could not be adjusted. Weds afternoon I again talked to dell. They apologized, and I'll be damned if the next morning they didn't have yet another 2001FP on the dock !!!!! They must have a local warehouse around here somewhere, cause it takes some folks longer too commute than it took for that last Display to arrive.

Don't even try to tell me Alienware can do anything but send an invoice that fast !!
post #2 of 15
LOL

Nebby Nebby Nebby

What can I say but.....good for you.

BTW, what's your job?
post #3 of 15
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BTW, what's your job?
Being a pain in our (__x__)
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O_o
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
Systems Administrator Lite...

It wasn't my plan to be a pain in peoples butts, but, I'm forever pissed about how AW behaves if you should ever have a problem.

Alienware = i'm sorry but you voided your warrantee. We cant support you if you put any 3rd party components in the system. If you want that chipset fan replaced, you have to ship your entire system back to us.

Dell = It's on its way; You want fries with that?

Which reminds me, I saw a guy in Starbuck's yesterday with an XPS Gen _______ "insert current gen here". It was pretty cool looking. Not as cool as my 766, but I wouldn't throw it away if some one gave me one.
post #6 of 15
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Originally Posted by nebulous
Systems Administrator Lite...

It wasn't my plan to be a pain in peoples butts, but, I'm forever pissed about how AW behaves if you should ever have a problem.

Alienware = i'm sorry but you voided your warrantee. We cant support you if you put any 3rd party components in the system. If you want that chipset fan replaced, you have to ship your entire system back to us.

Dell = It's on its way; You want fries with that?

Which reminds me, I saw a guy in Starbuck's yesterday with an XPS Gen _______ "insert current gen here". It was pretty cool looking. Not as cool as my 766, but I wouldn't throw it away if some one gave me one.
I brought my 766 to a Starbucks to show it off but the battery died before it could aquire a signal

-Mark
post #7 of 15
neb,

Dell does something like $35-45 billion a year in sales. Last time I saw numbers for Alienware, they were around $150 million. Dell can afford to send out ten cheap monitors overnight until you're happy, Alienware can't. By the way, I've purchased NEC and Viewsonic monitors from AW, and never had an issue with them. It seems light bleeding is a major topic of conversation in the Dell section, both for laptops and lcd's. I've also not had to wait more than three days to receive replacement parts with Alienware, though I know many have had to wait longer depending on the part.

It is a pain that you can't get parts overnighted to you from Alienware, but the light bleeding issue is something Dell is known for, both with laptops and their lcd displays they rebadge.

It's also common knowledge that when Dell has a return, they check it out, and if it isn't completely destroyed, they repair it, and then put it back in the line to be sent out.

Perhaps you should be wondering why Dell needs to offer multiple products overnighted to you in order to get one that works.

And I have no doubt that you bought the monitor through corporate sales, so you're getting their professional support. Dell Home does not do what you're describing.

Alienware is now making servers, workstations, and rack systems. I'd bet my left nut that the service is much better for corporate sales than home for AW also. When you order for your business, you pay more, but they also understand that downtime is costly, so I'm sure they get service and replacement parts out much quicker than the home users see.

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Alienware = i'm sorry but you voided your warrantee. We cant support you if you put any 3rd party components in the system. If you want that chipset fan replaced, you have to ship your entire system back to us.
You should go to the Dell section here and do some reading. I understand Dell is deleting whole sections from their own forums to avoid the embarrassment of being burried in complaints.

Warranty voiding is happening with people that mess with their systems, just like at AW. Why should any company warranty machines people overclock, disassemble and "modify" cooling, or idiots that drop their machines on concrete?

And you don't void your warranty at Alienware for adding third party hardware, they just won't offer support on things you added. Everything else is still warranteed.

And regarding the chipset fans, it's unfortunate, but Alienware is under contract with their suppliers. That means if they want to be reimbursed for replacement hardware, they have to follow the manufacturers instructions. In some minor cases like the bad batch of chipset fans on a limited number of one type of motherboard, it's frustrating, but that's the fact of life here.

The most important thing you ignored in your rant is that with Alienware, you get a real computer, with Dell, you get a Dell. Service may be more important to you, but I'm into hardware and performance. I can wait three days for replacement hardware rather than ending up with a piece of sh*t that needs parts overnighted to me constantly.

Okay, now you may commence with the usual AW fanboy comments, follwed by several Dell forum members being booted.
post #8 of 15
nebby, I think Hammer hit the nail on the head, Dell and AW are totally different in most ways, thank god, and their business division has to do that or else they will loose customers. I am not sure what your point was as most of us here talk about our personal rigs and not our business ones except DB and I have both mentioned we changed our office computers as were were able to take advantage of very liberal tax laws and depreciation which made the cost at the 5 year mark nothing.....thus we both changed to AW but I never thought of this forum as a discussion about the business division of either company, but thats nothing more than my opinion....maybe AW can only send an invoice that quickly but I will take AW every time over the Dells we replaced.....
post #9 of 15
The light bleeding has to do with the way the display was designed. There are a bunch of vent holes on the back of the display which is the cause of the bleeding.
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The light bleeding has to do with the way the display was designed. There are a bunch of vent holes on the back of the display which is the cause of the bleeding.
What about the XPS2 and 9300? The Dell section is full of complaints about the screens and light bleeding, not to mention sparklies...
post #11 of 15
I have no experience with those so I can't comment...
post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 
[quote=Hammerhead]neb...


You have some good points. Especially that I have never dealt with Dell Home. I just assumed one would get equally good service from Home as Small Business. Truth be known, I would probably never buy a Dell System for my own personal use, they just plain aren't Cool Enough. But, and there is always a butt, my own personal expirence with Alienware has been one of reluctence to help with almost anything, especially when replacing parts was involved. They were plenty ready to help if it meant me spending more money. I know its anecdotal, but we read evidence of this same behavior on this forum every day.

Standard Disclaimer: Love the product, somewhat less amorous of the company and it policies towards the consumer.

post #13 of 15
I prefer to deal with Small Business. They will typically send out replacement parts in good faith under the assumption that you will return the bad part. With home I believe they require security deposits in the form of a CC# that they will charge if you don't return the defective part.
post #14 of 15
As a owner of a 9200 lappy I can honestly say my screen is great no problems but when I was over there...........I read many a horror story and many shipments back to dell, some even got replacement laptops.I am happy with the performane of my 9200 but as far as getting a question answered their sevice is horrible.Every person I tried to talk to speaks broken english.I don't know how many times I hung up after waiting and hoping for someone who could speak the language clearly.You think that would be part of the job interview,very frustrating.That is why I am here now.So any way after all that, yes DELL sells more and has more LCD's to ship out every day but there are less problems with AW because their components are better and because they do it right the first time.And if you have to wait a little while for that well so be it.
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Originally Posted by nh_mark
I brought my 766 to a Starbucks to show it off but the battery died before it could aquire a signal

-Mark

I've taken my Alienware to Starbucks several times. To my suprise and dismay, I haven't gotten any love. One guy passed bye sipping his Caramel Macchiato and simply said, "I envy you your Alienware." The only other time anyone has said anything about the best looking laptop on the planet was this cute little girl of maybe 5yo. She fairly ran straight from the front door with all her attending innocence and asked, "Whats That?"
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