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post #21 of 44
11/25/03 at 5:03pm
Its surprising how many people dont know about that little feature IO. Was the first thing I did - even though with the clarity of the UXGA I could have left them at normal and still been ok to read them,
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post #22 of 44
11/25/03 at 5:07pm
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Originally Posted by Divine_Madcat
Well, i was thinking (and saying the same thing), but you did it a bit meaner...
I'm a high-resolution activist! If I could get a QXGA screen that took less time to refresh a pixel than a 56k modem can ping an address, I'd be all over it
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post #23 of 44
11/25/03 at 5:42pm
OK, so now I have larger text in my windows.

What about text within applications; spreadsheets, client aps, photo editors?????

To get easily readable text I have to futz with settings in every application? No thanks, I'll pass on that and just use a display with a non-microscopic native resolution.

skuff
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post #24 of 44
11/25/03 at 5:47pm
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Originally Posted by io_burn
I'm a high-resolution activist! If I could get a QXGA screen that took less time to refresh a pixel than a 56k modem can ping an address, I'd be all over it
Same here bro!

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OK, so now I have larger text in my windows.

What about text within applications; spreadsheets, client aps, photo editors?????

To get easily readable text I have to futz with settings in every application? No thanks, I'll pass on that and just use a display with a non-microscopic native resolution.

skuff
Ignorance at its finest...

Windows can change allllll of that for you.. And no, it is NOT microscopic....*sigh*
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post #25 of 44
11/25/03 at 5:48pm
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What about text within applications; spreadsheets, client aps, photo editors?????
http://store.yahoo.com/sandicastdogs/opglaswitlig.html
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post #26 of 44
11/25/03 at 5:52pm
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Originally Posted by Divine_Madcat
Same here bro!



Ignorance at its finest...

Windows can change allllll of that for you.. And no, it is NOT microscopic....*sigh*

Please DM, make me less ignorant. I'm here to learn. Show me how to easily change the overall appearance of scale in every application from one place using native res. on a given display.


skuff
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post #27 of 44
11/25/03 at 5:55pm
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Originally Posted by skuff
Please DM, make me less ignorant. I'm here to learn. Show me how to easily change the overall appearance of scale in every application from one place using native res. on a given display.


skuff
Sorry.. i came off to mean..

To adjust program fonts, you need to play with Window's appearance. Just right click on your desktop, and hit properties. Go to the appearance tab, and have fun! you can change font size, color, etc.
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post #28 of 44
11/25/03 at 5:56pm
Yeah ok - thats funny . Nice one


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post #29 of 44
11/25/03 at 6:55pm
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Originally Posted by Divine_Madcat
Same here bro!



Ignorance at its finest...

Windows can change allllll of that for you.. And no, it is NOT microscopic....*sigh*

So anyone who disagrees with you is ignorant, is that what you're saying?

Well I agree that someone here is ignorant, but it's not who you think.

And just for your info, that setting will NOT resize fonts everywhere. Things like word processing documents and AutoCad drawings will not have their fonts resized. Text inside a LOT of different objects generated by a LOT of different programs will NOT be resized.

If you feel that the UXGA display is the best that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion. But that doesn't mean that people who feel otherwise are less informed or less inteligent.

A few people here could really use some lessons in manners. Or maybe they just need to grow up a little.

It's a big world out there. There are a lot of folks out there who have been around for a long time and who have somehow managed to form opinions that are different than yours. This does not mean that they are idiots. Got it?
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post #30 of 44
11/25/03 at 7:02pm
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Originally Posted by nelamvr6
So anyone who disagrees with you is ignorant, is that what you're saying?

Well I agree that someone here is ignorant, but it's not who you think.

And just for your info, that setting will NOT resize fonts everywhere. Things like word processing documents and AutoCad drawings will not have their fonts resized. Text inside a LOT of different objects generated by a LOT of different programs will NOT be resized.

If you feel that the UXGA display is the best that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion. But that doesn't mean that people who feel otherwise are less informed or less inteligent.

A few people here could really use some lessons in manners. Or maybe they just need to grow up a little.

It's a big world out there. There are a lot of folks out there who have been around for a long time and who have somehow managed to form opinions that are different than yours. This does not mean that they are idiots. Got it?

Oppinions are one thing, facts are another. Ignoring facts are ignorant, and that is what is happening here. Calling the higher res screen smaller, is plain ignorant. There are MANY ways to change font sizes in ALL programs, and you are never locked into having things look small.

If you dont have the cash, that is one thing. But saying the other screen is "better" because it makes things look better.. yes, that is ignorant.


Next!
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post #31 of 44
11/25/03 at 7:08pm
There is no way a higher resolution screen can look 'worse' than a lower resolution screen. Unless of course, your definition of 'good' is pixelated and jagged. With more pixels that your programs can use, your fonts are crisper, graphics are sharper, etc. If you had a UXGA and SXGA+ screen side by side in a pure vector document such as a .pdf or a flash movie, and you said the SXGA+ looked better... You either need glasses, or less crack in your daily diet.
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post #32 of 44
11/25/03 at 7:13pm
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Originally Posted by Divine_Madcat
Oppinions are one thing, facts are another. Ignoring facts are ignorant, and that is what is happening here. Calling the higher res screen smaller, is plain ignorant. There are MANY ways to change font sizes in ALL programs, and you are never locked into having things look small.
No, in fact there is NO way to change fonts in ALL programs. That is an ignorant statement.

Or better yet, I should say, tell me. Explain (please) to me how I'm going to, in one shot, change the text size in all of the programs I use. You don't even have any idea which programs I use. For example, I have ancient DOS programs that I have to use for work. I don't like them, but I have to use them. Will the text in those programs be resized? No. And yes, I've tried.

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If you dont have the cash, that is one thing. But saying the other screen is "better" because it makes things look better.. yes, that is ignorant.


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No, that is an OPINION. That's one more ignorant statement from you.

I like you. I've enjoyed reading your posts for many months. But in this thread you've been a real d!ckhe@d. And not many people like d!ckhe@ds. I'm not sure if maybe you're just having a bad day or something, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

But you should consider trying to not be quite as nasty.

Just a suggestion.

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post #33 of 44
11/25/03 at 7:24pm
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Originally Posted by nelamvr6
No, in fact there is NO way to change fonts in ALL programs. That is an ignorant statement.

Or better yet, I should say, tell me. Explain (please) to me how I'm going to, in one shot, change the text size in all of the programs I use. You don't even have any idea which programs I use. For example, I have ancient DOS programs that I have to use for work. I don't like them, but I have to use them. Will the text in those programs be resized? No. And yes, I've tried.



No, that is an OPINION. That's one more ignorant statement from you.

I like you. I've enjoyed reading your posts for many months. But in this thread you've been a real d!ckhe@d. And not many people like d!ckhe@ds. I'm not sure if maybe you're just having a bad day or something, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

But you should consider trying to not be quite as nasty.

Just a suggestion.

It is mearly frustrating to see people settle for so much less, when they dont need to, becuase of something they dont understand. Im not trying to be nasty... its just.. makes no sence.

Using windows appearance options, you can change any programs fonts that use window's display settings. Some internal fonts cant be changed, but that a problem on all screens. And i thought dos programs could be changed, VIA windows DOS settings.


Finally, while i dont think it is refecting on my posts here, i have been having a crappy few months. I broke up with my fiance of 2 years, ben putting up with complete asshats at work, and now my dad may be running out on my family.. so yeah, im sorry if i bleed a little too much stress.... i am only human...
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post #34 of 44
11/25/03 at 7:41pm
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Originally Posted by Divine_Madcat
It is mearly frustrating to see people settle for so much less, when they dont need to, becuase of something they dont understand. Im not trying to be nasty... its just.. makes no sence.

Using windows appearance options, you can change any programs fonts that use window's display settings. Some internal fonts cant be changed, but that a problem on all screens. And i thought dos programs could be changed, VIA windows DOS settings.


Finally, while i dont think it is refecting on my posts here, i have been having a crappy few months. I broke up with my fiance of 2 years, ben putting up with complete asshats at work, and now my dad may be running out on my family.. so yeah, im sorry if i bleed a little too much stress.... i am only human...
Hey, like I said, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt!


I'm hoping things will be getting better for you real soon.

But just for your own info, Windows Appearance settings will not always change the text INSIDE DOS windows. The Window title font size will change, but usually that setting doesn't affect the size of the fonts the program running inside that window are using. I never say never, it may be that some DOS programs running inside windows will resize their fonts, but I've never seen one yet.


For most people you're probably right, the UXGA screen is a better choice. But for old f@rts like me there are other considerations. I would really rather not use the ancient software I'm shackled with, but I don't have any choice.

And I'm sure there will be people who have to decide which other goodie to cut back on to afford the better screen.


And also let's not forget that however you feel, it's not like the SXGA+ screen is exactly ugly.
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post #35 of 44
11/25/03 at 7:45pm
Thanks .

When it comes to DOS windows, i belive the fonts can be changed through the properties (accessed by a right click)...
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post #36 of 44
11/25/03 at 7:58pm
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Originally Posted by Divine_Madcat
Thanks .

When it comes to DOS windows, i belive the fonts can be changed through the properties (accessed by a right click)...

Yeah, that's the way I do it, but the text looks pretty ugly at native resolution, it gets even uglier when you try to blow it up.

One of the programs I use most during the day is an old DOS database. I find myself spending a LOT of time working in this program so making the text as readable as possible is really essential to me.

Like I said earlier in this thread, I've never actually seen a UXGA screen in the flesh, so it may be that that resolution is the best thing that could possibly happen to me, but I'll not know one way or the other until I get that opportunity.

Before I ordered my Sager I went to all of the local computer stores trying to see if any had a UXGA LCD screen that I could check out. None did. So all I had to go by was my CRT monitor on my desktop. At 1600 x 1200 my Viewsonic didn't look so good. I realized that I might be able to make it work, but at that time I decided that the SXGA+ was more of a known quantity so that's the way I went.

So far I don't regret my decision, my screen looks good to me and I have no problems with any of the software I've thrown at it.
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post #37 of 44
11/25/03 at 8:01pm
Ehh... its too bad you havent seen the 5680's UXGA.. it has to be the CLEAREST screen i have EVER seen (and when you repair comps for a living, you see alot.. ). The text may be "small", but it is crystal clear... so much so, it doesnt need MS's SmearType.... er "ClearType" for LCDs.. it is much better than any CRT, and certainly better than any LCD i have seen in my life..
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post #38 of 44
11/25/03 at 8:41pm
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Originally Posted by Divine_Madcat
Ehh... its too bad you havent seen the 5680's UXGA.. it has to be the CLEAREST screen i have EVER seen (and when you repair comps for a living, you see alot.. ). The text may be "small", but it is crystal clear... so much so, it doesnt need MS's SmearType.... er "ClearType" for LCDs.. it is much better than any CRT, and certainly better than any LCD i have seen in my life..

Well the way everyone at work is admiring my 5680 it may not be long before one of them may order one. I keep looking at Best Buy to see if any of the Laptops there, or even the LCD monitors have UXGA resolution, but so far no. With Christmas coming maybe they'll get some new inventory in and I can check one out.

But at any rate it's too late for me. I have to live with my SXGA+.
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post #39 of 44
11/25/03 at 9:02pm
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Originally Posted by nelamvr6
Well the way everyone at work is admiring my 5680 it may not be long before one of them may order one. I keep looking at Best Buy to see if any of the Laptops there, or even the LCD monitors have UXGA resolution, but so far no. With Christmas coming maybe they'll get some new inventory in and I can check one out.

But at any rate it's too late for me. I have to live with my SXGA+.

If one of your co-workers gets one, have him/her pick up a UGXA model... just bring a towel with you..


As for other brands, it isnt a good comparison there, since those are different screens.. :P
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post #40 of 44
11/25/03 at 9:17pm
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Originally Posted by Divine_Madcat
As for other brands, it isnt a good comparison there, since those are different screens.. :P

Yeah, but at least I could get some idea of what it looks like.
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