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post #1 of 8
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Hi,

I have a Toshiba Satellite 5205-S703, and thanks to Splat, found the link he posted last year to the "secret" Toshiba service website for the 5200 series. But it seems some of the picture links in Chapter 4 from step "4.25 LCD Module" onward, has broken links to the illustrations.

http://www.csd.toshiba.com/content/s...5/ch4.htm#4.25

And all of the illustrations are broken on the second page of Chapter four.

http://www.csd.toshiba.com/content/s...9655/ch4-2.htm

I suppose maybe because it's old, and Toshiba never bothered to maintain the site after a time. But now is the time when things start breaking down and it's needed even more now. My fan is starting to chatter and I need to get at it to find out why.

Would anyone have the complete set from the website stored on their hard drives (that's what I'm trying to do before they're lost altogether), or maybe have the service manual to that laptop in PDF format? (that might be the prefered method, since you can blow up illustrations better in Acrobat).

I'm a little leary to go to eBay and purchase one of those Toshiba service manual CD's. There seems to be many of them, and I read that they can sometimes be a rip off and only contain the Users Manuals, which anyone can get for free at the normal Toshiba website.

Any help would be appreciated.

Much Thanks,
Marcel
post #2 of 8
Hi Marcel, in all the times I have viewed that document the pictures in that section have always had broken links. I guess no one ever had the bawls to complain to Toshiba about it However for you to replace or maintain the fan it is not necessary to have those pictures.

For completeness I will include the missing sections in pdf format. I doubt very much you'd want to replace the LCD lamp from the LCD screen (unless you happen to have a clean room handy, or like bits of dust sandwiched in your screen).

Anyway Chapter 4 came in 7 sections as it was quite big.

http://www.thefilehoster.com/images/Sbl11071.pdf
http://www.thefilehoster.com/images/0zR11204.pdf
http://www.thefilehoster.com/images/pqv11271.pdf
http://www.thefilehoster.com/images/Go311375.pdf
http://www.thefilehoster.com/images/qQR11431.pdf
http://www.thefilehoster.com/images/TFz11490.pdf
http://www.thefilehoster.com/images/Qnn11561.pdf
post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Splat
Hi Marcel, in all the times I have viewed that document the pictures in that section have always had broken links. I guess no one ever had the bawls to complain to Toshiba about it However for you to replace or maintain the fan it is not necessary to have those pictures.

For completeness I will include the missing sections in pdf format. I doubt very much you'd want to replace the LCD lamp from the LCD screen (unless you happen to have a clean room handy, or like bits of dust sandwiched in your screen).

Anyway Chapter 4 came in 7 sections as it was quite big.

http://www.thefilehoster.com/images/Sbl11071.pdf
http://www.thefilehoster.com/images/0zR11204.pdf
http://www.thefilehoster.com/images/pqv11271.pdf
http://www.thefilehoster.com/images/Go311375.pdf
http://www.thefilehoster.com/images/qQR11431.pdf
http://www.thefilehoster.com/images/TFz11490.pdf
http://www.thefilehoster.com/images/Qnn11561.pdf
Aah, Thanks, Splat. These are what I really wanted anyways, the PDFs! I am in your debt. Could I be further in your debt and get the rest of them?

You're right about the fan. I got to it anyways. But those pictures on the web site printed out so badly that I was challenged by some of them trying to see where some of the screws went.

The PDFs print out sooo much clearer.

I also found it easier to keep track of the screws, since Toshiba provided it, to mark bits of paper with the legend that were on the plastic case near them as I pulled the screws. If I pulled out an F5, I placed it with the other F5's. (the B6's "inside" the case though, were a quite a bit different than the B6's "outside" the case, fortunately the different color made them easy to find).

My problem was, like so may others apparently after reading here a while, that the fan was making a grinding sound only when the CPU heated up for a time, like with a long video conversion, and was becoming very annoying. It turned out that the thin plastic that made up the fan casing, I believe was warping when it heated up. I realised this when, after I removed it, I rotated the fan from the other side with my finger, and noticed that the fan blades tilted downwards a bit during the rotation, more on one side than the other, so that they touched the inside of its housing on the opposite flat side. There's very little clearence there to begin with. Not knowing what else to do, I decided to gently push up in the center of one of the three thin plastic "spirals" that supported the fan motor to that side, with my fingernail, and it split inwards. I freaked, but it turned out to be it split just a tiny bit, and fortunately made the fan level off again. So I'm noise free now, even during prolonged heavy loads.

Then I kicked myself afterwards, since I have the 3 year in home service warrantee which is good until spring of 2006!!! And also noticed that the fan at that Toshiba supplier that someone posted somewhere else here, currently lists for $80 (a desktop CPU fan with ball bearings costs $5-10, sheesh!!!). And it will probably go higher by next year. Duh!

I think I may break the fan again and have them replace it before the oil in it dries up, like some others have reported here.

The only other PDFs I believe I may really need are probably the Appendix "B" Board Layouts for the 5200 series, as the rest of the chapters just seem to be mostly tables. Do you have those?

I do appreciate the LCD ones though (ours is the Model 15.0 UXGA SHARP in the qQR11431.pdf, the best one, right? )

This is my first laptop, and was really curious as to how light could be distributed so evenly across such a wide thin area, without a bulb shining directly behind it (I kept imagining hundreds of tiny white leds ). I do wish it were brighter though (I think it was once, and yes, I do know about Fn-F6-F7 ). I just can't seem to use it outside in the daylight.

Does yours boot up bright, then after 10 seconds, dim down to 70%, then not go back to full brightness until after getting to the desktop? No one I've talked to so far has ever seen that before, seems to know why, or knows how to keep it from doing that. Any clues? I thought it might be in the BIOS, but of course it seems we can't get into that, except indirectly from Windows. It sure makes for a dreary dim LINUX bootup.

Sorry for all the questions, but hope you can answer some of them. Two years with this thing and I'm still mostly in the dark.

Many thanks,
Marcel
post #4 of 8
Hi Marcel,

Appendix B in all its PDF glory. May you print to you hearts content

http://www.thefilehoster.com/images/ZT392094.pdf

Yeah they are both Sharp 15" UXGA LCD screens, but there are differences between the two models. The S705 is a glossy LQ150U1LA03, wheras the S703 I believe is a non-glossy LQ150U1LW03. If the screen is looking a bit dim it may be that either the FL Invertor is about to go or possibly the FL itself is coming to the end of it's natural life. The invertor is pretty simple to replace, the FL is not.

If you are having dimming out problems during boot up, do you have the latest BIOS? Mine shippped with v1.2 and had the same problem, but this was fixed in v1.3 and also v1.4. There is also a v1.5, but it is not applicable for the S705, so I don't know how that will work out. Check out Toshiba's website for the latest release. Note: if you have a Geforce4 GPU based system board I don't think they fixed this problem on these.

Not had any problems with the fans on my 520x laptops. Luckily for me I have a spare fan waiting just in case one of them do go.
post #5 of 8
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Splat
Hi Marcel,

Appendix B in all its PDF glory. May you print to you hearts content

http://www.thefilehoster.com/images/ZT392094.pdf
Great, Thanks!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Splat
Yeah they are both Sharp 15" UXGA LCD screens, but there are differences between the two models. The S705 is a glossy LQ150U1LA03, wheras the S703 I believe is a non-glossy LQ150U1LW03. If the screen is looking a bit dim it may be that either the FL Invertor is about to go or possibly the FL itself is coming to the end of it's natural life. The invertor is pretty simple to replace, the FL is not.
Yep, I think it's the FL. Still pretty okay to work with normally, as long as it's on its brightest setting. Wonder if I could get one of them "xtrabrite" replacements to fit?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Splat
If you are having dimming out problems during boot up, do you have the latest BIOS? Mine shippped with v1.2 and had the same problem, but this was fixed in v1.3 and also v1.4. There is also a v1.5, but it is not applicable for the S705, so I don't know how that will work out. Check out Toshiba's website for the latest release. Note: if you have a Geforce4 GPU based system board I don't think they fixed this problem on these.
Yes, it's mostly the bootup issue. And yes, I have the Geforce4 460 Go card, dammit! I've upgraded to 1.5 and problem is still there. Why on earth with every one else, but not with mine?

BTW, do you know where I could get a tiny replacement I.LINK socket here in the States? The support plastic on the inside has cracked away and the pins are floating free, just waiting to get bent. I do good soldering, but I can't seem to find a replacement part for the mini firewire angle mount.

Thanks,
Marcel
post #6 of 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by MDevoe
Great, Thanks!
Yep, I think it's the FL. Still pretty okay to work with normally, as long as it's on its brightest setting. Wonder if I could get one of them "xtrabrite" replacements to fit?
I doubt it. The "xtrabrite" screens have 2 lamps within them, and more than likely do not fit that particular model of LCD form factor from Sharp.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MDevoe
BTW, do you know where I could get a tiny replacement I.LINK socket here in the States? The support plastic on the inside has cracked away and the pins are floating free, just waiting to get bent. I do good soldering, but I can't seem to find a replacement part for the mini firewire angle mount.
I am in the UK, so I am not alot of help in that regard. You could try an online PCB component shop to see if they stock something similar. However from experience these kind of parts tend to be designed bespoke for their purpose. Otherwise you could look to see on Ebay if anyone is offering an "untested" system board and scavenge it for component parts.
post #7 of 8
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Splat
Hi Marcel,

Appendix B in all its PDF glory. May you print to you hearts content

http://www.thefilehoster.com/images/ZT392094.pdf
Hi Splat,

Somehow I guess I didn't download the "appendix B" the last time I was logged in before I took this trip I just came back from, and now the link is broken. Could you make it available again?

[quote=MDevoe]
BTW, do you know where I could get a tiny replacement I.LINK socket here in the States? The support plastic on the inside has cracked away and the pins are floating free, just waiting to get bent. I do good soldering, but I can't seem to find a replacement part for the mini firewire angle mount.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Splat
I am in the UK, so I am not alot of help in that regard. You could try an online PCB component shop to see if they stock something similar. However from experience these kind of parts tend to be designed bespoke for their purpose. Otherwise you could look to see on Ebay if anyone is offering an "untested" system board and scavenge it for component parts.
I found this supplier locally that appears to have what seems to be millions of just about any part you can think of,

http://www.mouser.com

and this was the closest I could find under a search for "4 pin firewire"...

http://www.mouser.com/index.cfm?&han...&N=0&crc=false

...but the "notch" is facing down, while ours are facing up. Which means the signal pins may or may not be lined up to the wrong holes.

But for $2.50, I can certainly order one.

Thanks,
Marcel
post #8 of 8
Is there someone who have the home-address to this "secret" site? I have some old Satellite Pro's lying around.
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