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post #21 of 50
6 pounds or more = desktop replacement
post #22 of 50
Hi Healer.

You asked for the 3DMark03 scores without AA and AF.

So here

1024x768 Score: 2508
1280x1024 Score: 1777

I have the 64Mb version so maybe with 128Mb these will go up a bit. At least the 1280x1024. And other cfgs PM 1,6/512.

Tom's Hardware got 3144 with 1024x768. Although it wasn't tested with a notebook. Here's the link.

http://www6.tomshardware.com/mobile/...nvidia-03.html
post #23 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechanic
6 pounds or more = desktop replacement
Its really not that simple. One could classify a desktop replacement based on a number of factors. One can look at weight, dimensions, battery life and whether or not the computer uses desktop components or not (Pentium 4 instead of Pentium M). For example, I would probably consider a 5.5 pound laptop with a Pentium 4 and 1.5 hours of battery life a desktop replacement, whereas a 6.5 laptop with a Pentium M proc. and 5 hours of battery life would allow for more mobility.
post #24 of 50
For those interested in battery life I just did a dvd-playback test. DVD ran for 3h 40min without stopping. I accidently used desktop-power scheme for the first 2,5h. Don't know did this affect much.

Power meter showed quite accurately the remaining time. With more common use like surfing and so on I think this should last about 5 hours. Earlier I tested the difference between playback and this "normal" use. DVD sucked about 25-30% more battery life. Also using full screen brightness takes about 30 mins off from the remaining time. The screen brightness is divided in 11 steps and running on batteries uses by default the step 7/11. So maybe this is about 70%-80% screen brightness. Don't know how lighted the lowest step is.
post #25 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan83
Its really not that simple. One could classify a desktop replacement based on a number of factors. One can look at weight, dimensions, battery life and whether or not the computer uses desktop components or not (Pentium 4 instead of Pentium M). For example, I would probably consider a 5.5 pound laptop with a Pentium 4 and 1.5 hours of battery life a desktop replacement, whereas a 6.5 laptop with a Pentium M proc. and 5 hours of battery life would allow for more mobility.
PC World and other magazines I've read classify a desktop replacement as 6 pounds or more.
post #26 of 50
Read what Dan83 just said and think again. If a someone tells you to jump in to a river do you actually jump in to a river?

I don't like to argue but it would be nice to have some explonations on your opinions istead of just calling things crap unless they are from AW. These kind of comments just makes us wonder, are you actually happy with your AW or are you just trying to proof yourself otherwise.
post #27 of 50
And just adding to your opinions about over 6 pound notebooks. Don't be so narrow with your visions. A desktop replacement can be mobile (read wireless with reasonable weight). I don't think desktop component based notebooks can be classified as one. And if you do, I'd like to hear why?
post #28 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by analyysi
Read what Dan83 just said and think again. If a someone tells you to jump in to a river do you actually jump in to a river?

I don't like to argue but it would be nice to have some explonations on your opinions istead of just calling things crap unless they are from AW. These kind of comments just makes us wonder, are you actually happy with your AW or are you just trying to proof yourself otherwise.
I'm not on AW's side. If you read all of what I said then you would have noticed that I said the well known companies were crap. I never heard of Sager or Hypersonic until I came to this forum. Those are better companies than HP-Gateway-Dell. AW-Hypersonic-Sager tech support is good b/c they know what they are talking about. I spent hours on the phone with HP-Gateway-Dell trying to fix a problem and I'd end up finding out how to fix it while I am on hold.

I know desktop replacements are mobile that is what I was saying.
post #29 of 50
Hi everybody,
thanks for the great info (this is probably the only review online about this product ). Few questions to the owner of the NC8000, even though I'm willing to buy the smaller NC6000 I was wondering if you can spend few words about the laptop's LCD. I've been using a compaq with a 14" (1024x768), perfect size for me, but definely not as much bright and "crisp" as other laptop's screen.

Thanks
post #30 of 50
I got my Buffalo Airstation yesterday and wlan is working perfectly. Powersaving maximum, 12.5% transmit power, and getting full signal strength. And I am not even using this in the same room where the airstation is.

Hello ChiefWahoo.

I only have 4 other panels to compare to and I'm not an expert in the subject but maybe the comparison between these 5 gives you some kind of idea.

The four others are Toshiba Satellite with 14" XGA, hp with 12" XGA (from the time before HP/Compaq), F-S Amilo with 15" SXGA+ and one dell with 15" UXGA which I have only briefly used at work so (can't even remember which one).

I think this is the brightest and sharpest from these five but can't guarantee this for the dell. I didn't like the dell because text got quite small and I program a lot so I prefer more of this SXGA+. Of course you can change the font settings in the windows and so on but.. well, it's up to you.

I have only compared side to side with the Toshiba and the HP. It really showed a big difference. The Toshiba wasn't at all as sharp and bright and the black and whites were missing something. White had a bit of yellow in it and black turned in to a very dark gray.

The hp is a bit better with the colours but both of these lack good viewing angles. And this is still a lot brighter and sharper (if you mean this with "crisp", then i would say crispy). I don't know if XGAs usually have smaller viewing angles than SXGA+ or UXGA? Anyone?

The Amilo is a nice to compare because of the same size and resolution. I don't think the amilo is bad at all but because I find the viewing angles to be one point to compare I found out the amilo to have slightly more narrow angles. I think image can be "too sharp" at points and was finding a bit of this in the amilo (or am I just jealous?, lol). Especially at the edges of white.

I don't think you're going to be dissapointed, however, propably the XGA display lacks something that 15" SXGA+ and UXGA has.

I was thinking of buying the nc6000 but we only have it with XGA display here in Finland. I also do a bit of graphics and like to have some more workspace. Maybe I would have gotten nc6000 if it had had SXGA+. Then again it's almost the same as getting 15" UXGA (which we only have in the nw8000 mobile workstation).

I don't know if this helped. And if some pro AW/Sager/whatever starts yapping about how good their screens are, I believe you so save the bother. And what comes for the Mechanic, don't even bother answering.
post #31 of 50
I'd like to see 3dmark2001SE scores at 1024 X 768 with no AA and no ansio if you don't mind... I have a similar nc6000 on the way.

Thanks a bunch!
post #32 of 50
Hi.

Page 2 of this post already has those posted by me.
post #33 of 50
those are 3dmark03.... I 'd really like to see 3dmark2001

Please?
post #34 of 50
Oh, sorry, blind and silly me. I'll get those propably today.
post #35 of 50
Many Thanks! Will keep checking back for your post.

J.
post #36 of 50
I put myself together and did it right away. So here: 9361.

Settings were: 1024x768x32, compressed textures, Z-buffer 24-bit, Frame buffer double, no AA.
post #37 of 50
Right on man! Thanks!!!!!!!


Have you checked your clock speeds on the 9600 yet?

Curious what they are....
post #38 of 50
Thanks for you time and the good info analyysi.
post #39 of 50
Ditto! Feel like running 1024 X 768 32 2xAA 4xAnsio?

Wanna see 3d2001 marks... guessing 8500....

please report if you are able and have time...

TY!
post #40 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingsx
Right on man! Thanks!!!!!!!
Have you checked your clock speeds on the 9600 yet?
Curious what they are....
Is there a app for this out there, please tell me the name of it.
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