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G70 Go GTX Sep 29th!!  

post #1 of 211
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Hi there

Techpowerup.com

form compatible
power compatible
pin compatible
heat compatible
with 6800


6642 on the base version in 3DM05

No description of the ultra version so we'll see. Maybe the Oct rumours for Dell and ultra were true, who knows. Anyway, standard version available on launch day Sep 29th.

Have fun!
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post #2 of 211
Their will be no ultra. Nvidia cancelled the ultra chip.
post #3 of 211
Will it be supported for the 9300?
post #4 of 211
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They cancelled the desktop ultra true, but the laptop version, that remains to be seen. There wasn't going to be a 6800 Go ultra when they released the 6800 Go...

But power laptop users are a demanding lot, no? Anyway please note that the one vendor that will not let you use Nvidia.com drivers is Dell. Dell is also the original vendor of the 6800 ultra. If there was going to be an ultra version of the 7800 Go, it would make much sense that you'd have a custom driver built for it. I don't happen to think that's a good idea, and perhaps this time around Dell may suffer on the market for that choice, but it is their choice.

So, correct. Currenly only 7800 Go GTX (which is pretty good). As the owner of a 500Mhz 7800 GTX ultra (Evga), I can tell you that there are a great number of users who'd be quite happy to have a 7800 Go Ultra - but you'd probably have to have a machine capable of the power and heat requirements of the 6800 ultra to use it. I'll be encouraging Nvidia to give us the 7800 Go ultra as should all of you who want one too!

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post #5 of 211
this is awesome, now i gotta wait for the XPS Gen 3
post #6 of 211
bah.
post #7 of 211
So, is this card going to be swappable with the 6800 Go Ultra card in the Gen 2? Can we just do an easy upgrade when it comes out if necessary?
post #8 of 211
Interesting.. Tho I don't expect it to be that much faster. I dunno...

If I can trade my Ultra in + some cash I would do that.
post #9 of 211
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Originally Posted by shoman24v
Interesting.. Tho I don't expect it to be that much faster. I dunno...

If I can trade my Ultra in + some cash I would do that.
I agree. Trade in +$150 I'd do
post #10 of 211
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Originally Posted by Gantua
I agree. Trade in +$150 I'd do
Yeah, that will NEVER happen. More then likely this card will be in the $300 (if we're really lucky) to $500 range.

Looks like i'm just going to have to bump the clocks up on the ultra

9300 guys, don't count on getting this upgrade seriously. I believe dell made a mistake by offering the Mobility 9800 to 9100 users. Doing that basically cheated all the XPS owners out of owning the best.
post #11 of 211
Desktop power users are more demanding than laptops power users. Nvidia has announced it woul dnot be in their best interested to develop the 7800ultra period no matter for go or not.

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Originally Posted by Anemone
They cancelled the desktop ultra true, but the laptop version, that remains to be seen. There wasn't going to be a 6800 Go ultra when they released the 6800 Go...

But power laptop users are a demanding lot, no? Anyway please note that the one vendor that will not let you use Nvidia.com drivers is Dell. Dell is also the original vendor of the 6800 ultra. If there was going to be an ultra version of the 7800 Go, it would make much sense that you'd have a custom driver built for it. I don't happen to think that's a good idea, and perhaps this time around Dell may suffer on the market for that choice, but it is their choice.

So, correct. Currenly only 7800 Go GTX (which is pretty good). As the owner of a 500Mhz 7800 GTX ultra (Evga), I can tell you that there are a great number of users who'd be quite happy to have a 7800 Go Ultra - but you'd probably have to have a machine capable of the power and heat requirements of the 6800 ultra to use it. I'll be encouraging Nvidia to give us the 7800 Go ultra as should all of you who want one too!

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post #12 of 211
Any press releases yet? Either from Nvidia or OEMs.
post #13 of 211
Just wondering... is the 6800 go ultra in the XPS Gen 2 the MXM module one or a propretary model from dell...

If its proprietary...(correct me if i'm wrong) then the 7800 go GTX would also hav to be proprietary for it to fit into the XPS gen 2... and also the 9300

Wouldn't it be possible then if a 9300 owner were to be able to obtain a 7800 go GTX card and be able to upgrade??

The 6800 go and 7800 GTX go draw the same power so the lack of power issue is gone with this new card

Heat wise should be no problem as well, so no need to get the extra cooling of the gen 2...

Just my 2 cents
post #14 of 211
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=2706&s=1

NVIDIA is going to launch their mobile G70 to be officially known as GeForce Go 7800 GTX on Sept 29th and it will be available immediately on the day of launch. 7800 GTX Go is packed with 302M transistors and is clocked at 400MHz core / 550MHz memory. It will deliver twice the shader power, 1.6x more geometry than the GeForce Go 6800 Ultra launched a year back. It will have the same TDP as the Go 6800 Ultra and is pin compatible and comes with PowerMizer 6.0 technology. 7800 GTX Go scored 6642 and 14704 in 3DMark05 and 3DMark03 respectively compared to 7697 and 3425 on the 6800 Ultra Go.
post #15 of 211
No it would not be possable because the 6800 ultra will not work in the 9300 because of the different mainboar chassis.For this reason the XPS Gen 2 will see the upgrade and the 9300 will not. Sorry

Also the 6800 go was considered a optional upgrade from the X 300 as where the XPS Gen 2 shiped with the 6800 ultra standard.

So basicly one way to put it is the 9300 owners received a upgraded video card already.

And the XPS Gen 2 owners have not and the XPS Gen 2 is considered the top of the line gaming machine as where the 9300 is not.

As someone else mentioned Dell made a mistake with the 9100 and the XPS Gen 1 only the XPS Gen 1 was supposed to have the supported upgrade for the 9800 mobility card not the 9100. So that is why Dell this time made sure this diddnt happen again and made sure the mainboard and chassis on the 9300 would not support the 6800 Ultra so therefor the XPS Gen 2 will see the 7800 as a upgrade and the 9300 will not.

The only way the 7800 will work in a 9300 is if you use a XPS Gen 2 mainboard chassis and power supply if you are able to get Dell to sell them to you then even then the cost would be over the cost of just ordering the XPS Gen 2 to begain with.
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any guesses on pixel pipe and vertex numbers?
post #17 of 211
The overclocking overhead should be nice, the clocks are around the same as the 6800 ultras.
Wow, I thought in meant it uses the same power as the 6800 ultra, but it looks like it uses the same power as the 6800, does that mean we'll see a battery improvement?
post #18 of 211
It's cool that the card will be compatible with our current systems, but I'm a little disappointed with the 3dmark scores.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5276

The card is a bit faster than a 7800 GT (20 pipes, yadda, yadda).

Hopefully, the card will be overclockable like the Go 6800.

And I guess it's cool, as XPS users will most definitely have an upgrade in the near future (maybe this or an Ultra).
post #19 of 211
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Originally Posted by jeffcmfrt
No it would not be possable because the 6800 ultra will not work in the 9300 because of the different mainboar chassis.For this reason the XPS Gen 2 will see the upgrade and the 9300 will not. Sorry

Where did you get this information? From what we've seen so far the 7800 go pretty much matches the 6800 go as far as power useage/heat and all that other jazz. What makes you so sure?
post #20 of 211
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If it is pin, power, heat and form compatible with the Go 6800, then it would have taken some purposeful design to keep it out of the 9300. That might indeed be true. But if it was done like that I think in the long term Dell will gain 'some' bad marks, because upgradeability is going to be a more important measure of laptop value going forward than it has been in the past. Having a historic pattern of denying upgradeability is not a good precedent really, given where the market is going.

That said, it's a done deal. If that's the way the 9300 was made, that's the way it is. I just hope not since it won't reflect well on them imo.

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As for the Go 7800 ultra - maybe they won't bother because you can OC the 7800 Go GTX just fine? Honestly the 7800 "ultra" is in the form of the 7800's that clock about 500mhz plus. So not putting out an "ultra" but letting people build "ultra versions" is about the same thing. At the time of release of the 6800 Go, the word was there would be no ultra either. Now even saying that, its not coming out Sep 29th for sure. And given the performance and the likely clockability of the 7800 Go GTX, I don't think even power users would have to wait around to hope for an ultra. The current 7800 Go should be quite nice, and a good match to the dual core Turion, or the Yonah chip.

So we'll see right?



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