G70 Go GTX Sep 29th!! - Page 9  

yeah right

Its easy, its called a doctored photo.

AHH AT LAST< a voice of common sense!!!! people in here are acting as though their 6800 cards are obslete and are only good enough to play atari games.

that is hardly a perceivable difference in performance

20% is plenty perceivable

Another voice of reason here!! although I do think dell will offer an upgrade for the 9300 if they do so for the XPS, Dell has sold ALOT more 9300's than they have the XPS. As you have pointed out XPS is the shallow generations laptop of choice and as it seems there are plenty of people here that get paychecks from mommy and daddy there are alot of cards to be sold so they can engage in a pissing contest and compare their packages.

DUH< they would offer a standard, lower powered version, BTW there will not be a 7800 ULTRA. GTX is what they call it now.

I have the strangest picture in my head, kinda gross too, a big merry band of new laptop owners sitting around in a circle jerk flipping the pages of some computer magazine that has no girls in it, just a picture of a 7800 card and speculative rumors of a laptop version of the card. All of them in their mid twenties and still dont have a car because they spend all their cash on frivolous upgrades while the more sensible guy with a car and a life is taking his girl out for dinner and a hotel.

35fps after 20% increase = 35fps x 1.20 = 42fps ?

Hey now, I represent that comment.

I do own an XPS, and yes it is a blingy blingety blinged out laptop, but I got it for cheaper than I was able to configure a 9300 so the choice for me was obvious. First thing I did was disable the annoying night lights, next I plan on pulling the monitor apart to paint the brushed(scratched) aluminum top, probably flat black. Oh, and for the record, when I bought my XPS2, I gave my old laptop to my parents, so not every XPS2 owner is a spoiled little rich kid still sucking on mommy's teet.

I hope Dell offers the upgrade for the 9300, it would be bad business for them not to. I'm fairly confident that they will offer it as an upgrade to the XPS2, and I am also pretty damn sure I won't buy. I went from a 6800GT to a 7800GTX in my desktop(sold the 6800 so the upgrade really only cost me about 120 bucks) and sure I'm squeezing out a few extra FPS on BF2, HL2, and all the latest games, but I was able to play them all with the 6800 at max settings with 50+ FPS. I'm pretty sure, atleast to me, that anything over 50-60 FPS is just bragging rights, I don't notice any difference.

Now if I can recoup most of the cost of the upgrade by selling the 6800Ultra, I may get the new card when it comes out, but anything more than 100 bucks or so just isn't worth a performance increase that I won't notice.

I keep checking Dell's website to see if they've got it in the configuration pages yet but nothing, be interesting to see how much this will cost with the XPS2

i've got an xps2 w/ a wxga lcd. can't wait to see how it performs w/ a 7800.

Talked to Dell today.

I only skimmed the previous posts, so I don't know if this has been posted yet, but....

I talked to a Dell representative today. Here is what he said about the XPS Gen 2/ M170:

1.) The M170 is basically just a renaming of the XPS Gen 2. He says it will have a few cosmetic improvements to the case, but that's all. He said the first ones available might not even have the 7800 as standard.

2.) Both the XPS Gen 2 (current) and the M170 will be upgradable to the 7800 Go Ultra in the future. If you have an XPS Gen 2 now, you can send it in to Dell, and they will put it in for you (plus cost of the card, etc.)

The most most important thing he said was basically that as of right now, the M170 is basically just an XPS Gen 2. The specs are essentially the same. Any improvements will be as if they are just improving the Gen 2 line, i.e. slighly better processors, more RAM, etc. I myself was worried because I got an Gen 2 just about a week ago. I'm no longer fretting about it. If I want to, I can always just upgrade it in the future.

Just thought I'd pass along the info, hopefully it's not old news.

I couldn't care less how the XPS 2 looks(I have all the leds off and trying to get a hold of the cover to put something more sublte on the top), that's not what I bought it for, nor did I buy it because my parents bought it for me, nor is it because I'm a member of the shallow generation...

So why did I buy it? Because I wanted the additional gaming performance, my desktop uses an X850XT and I wanted a laptop as close to that as possible so I wasn't sacrificing too much performance going mobile. The 9300 is a good machine but it is behind the XPS 2 noticeably in terms of gaming as you can see in benchmarks and games. What do I do with the machine? I play games on it, you'll see no 3Dmark links in my signature, I only ran these initially to make sure the machine was running properly.

As for the 'paycheck from mommy and daddy', I don't live with my parents and this machine came entirely from my own pocket, not on credit either. With my family it's actually the other way round, they usually get the PCs from me, not the other way round.

The 9300 and XPS 2 both have their place which is why Dell produce the two machines, for some people the 9300 is going to be better suited, for others the XPS 2.

John

Seeing as how I can sell my 6800 Ultra on eBay and basically use that money towards a 7800, I would probably only be paying $200 for a 20% increase. And yeah, that's worth it to me.

Also, I would expect a 20% performance boost in cpu limited cases, at high resolutions with high detail and lots of AA/AF I would expect a much larger boost, BF2 for example:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2466&p=4

That still doesn't take HDR account, plus the 6800 doesn't support the transparency AA mode which is a rather nice feature in the 7800.

John

Is it not possible to run at 1920 x 1200 on an external monitor with the 6800 Ultra Go?

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

This is a lame statement. I am quite sure many XPS owners are simply successful individuals, such as me, who like to own the best. And some of us probably found such a good deal that our GEN 2's did not run that much more than a i9300. I personally stacked 33% off, 12% off, 2% off, free shipping, and $100 mail in rebate when purchasing mine.

Considering I also sold my i8600 for $1500 on eBay and my XPS GEN 2 is a business tax write-off - the real cost of upgrading from my i8600 to a fully loaded XPS GEN 2 was low.