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post #41 of 63
9/19/05 at 5:37pm
yes, i agree that an OEM should swap mobos that are defective and/or not performing as advertised.

upgrading/swapping it out for free as a means to a gpu upgrade however is something entirely different.
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post #42 of 63
9/19/05 at 5:56pm
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As I mentioned before, the computer and the GPU itself is upgradeable. However, as we have seen with all manufacturers of the Clevo D900t there was no way for them to have forseen that the NVIDIA 6800 Ultra required a more powerful motherboard and power supplies so they had no other choice but to start receiving new motherboards and offer the upgrade motherboard and power supplies to customers who bought the first system.

Once again, computer manufacturers are at the mercy of hardware manufacturers. If it turns out that something requires further upgrading there is nothing the computer manufacturers can do.
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post #43 of 63
9/20/05 at 12:03am
Hmmm, very interesting. I have the older mobo and I'll have to see what it'll cost to upgrade but I would love to have that card!
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post #44 of 63
9/20/05 at 12:47am
from what i have seen in the sager forums if you have the 180watt power supply you need to do the whole mobo and the rest and if you have the larger power supply you are safe and only need to do the card....
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post #45 of 63
9/20/05 at 3:50am
I did not order a mobo with my laptop. I did not see anything called mobo in the configurator. Does it plug into one of the ports like a USB port? Can I buy one from Best Buy to plug in?
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post #46 of 63
9/20/05 at 3:58am
only you can DB.... only you can....
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post #47 of 63
9/20/05 at 4:35am
wasn't mobo the nazi dude that used to beat up superman?
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post #48 of 63
9/20/05 at 11:47am
There's an error on the slide.

It says 6800 Ultra released 10month ago.

The 6800 ultra hasn't been released 10 month ago...

This was the ddr2 or ddr3 version.
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post #49 of 63
9/20/05 at 4:30pm
They don`t know when they offer the card. Speak with AW Sascha.. They hope don`t swap the Mobo. Not testet yet...
He only know that the Card eat not so much Power like the 6800..
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post #50 of 63
9/20/05 at 5:08pm
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Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
I did not order a mobo with my laptop. I did not see anything called mobo in the configurator. Does it plug into one of the ports like a USB port? Can I buy one from Best Buy to plug in?


Its right below the Mofo.....Circuit Titty sells them...happy hunting
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post #51 of 63
9/20/05 at 5:48pm
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Originally Posted by moidock
As I mentioned before, the computer and the GPU itself is upgradeable. However, as we have seen with all manufacturers of the Clevo D900t there was no way for them to have forseen that the NVIDIA 6800 Ultra required a more powerful motherboard and power supplies so they had no other choice but to start receiving new motherboards and offer the upgrade motherboard and power supplies to customers who bought the first system.

Once again, computer manufacturers are at the mercy of hardware manufacturers. If it turns out that something requires further upgrading there is nothing the computer manufacturers can do.
In that case they should not make us send our machines back to get the upgrade(s) done. They should ship us the new mobo, PS and video card if they are going to charge us for them and let us do the swapping and install. If we have to send it into them to do the work then they should give use credit back for the cost of the parts they pull and keep (ie. old mobo, PS and video card) so it should be a relatively cheap upgrade, we shouldn't have to pay full price for the parts if they keep our original stuff is what I'm getting at.
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post #52 of 63
9/20/05 at 5:50pm
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Originally Posted by kingpodge
wasn't mobo the nazi dude that used to beat up superman?
I thought that was Zod.

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Originally Posted by j.clausse
There's an error on the slide.

It says 6800 Ultra released 10month ago.

The 6800 ultra hasn't been released 10 month ago...

This was the ddr2 or ddr3 version.
I believe the "6800 Ultra" was but the "go6800 Ultra" wasn't.
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post #53 of 63
9/20/05 at 6:07pm
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Originally Posted by keisur
In that case they should not make us send our machines back to get the upgrade(s) done. They should ship us the new mobo, PS and video card if they are going to charge us for them and let us do the swapping and install. If we have to send it into them to do the work then they should give use credit back for the cost of the parts they pull and keep (ie. old mobo, PS and video card) so it should be a relatively cheap upgrade, we shouldn't have to pay full price for the parts if they keep our original stuff is what I'm getting at.

I agree in part that the hardware manufacturers should at least provide some special pricing kind of like trading in the old parts for the new ones, but remember that not everybody has the skills or the know how to change motherboards, remember also that you have to reinstall the processor, reconnect the LCD and the other components to the motherboard, specially on a mobile system which are quite hard to work with (and easy to mess up).

The reason why computer manufacturers have people return the system if the upgrade or repair is quite complicated is because they have specialized personnel and if anything goes wrong their warranty will cover it.

Still, even if you have the skills and decide to do it yourself and mess up your system you will be SOL because you messed it up, not the company.

Just a friendly reminder.
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post #54 of 63
9/20/05 at 6:36pm
moidock has it right on that one... for more info i would suggest watching the thread about it in the sager section because they have info from the 9880 that is accurate.
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post #55 of 63
9/20/05 at 10:45pm
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Originally Posted by moidock
I agree in part that the hardware manufacturers should at least provide some special pricing kind of like trading in the old parts for the new ones, but remember that not everybody has the skills or the know how to change motherboards, remember also that you have to reinstall the processor, reconnect the LCD and the other components to the motherboard, specially on a mobile system which are quite hard to work with (and easy to mess up).

The reason why computer manufacturers have people return the system if the upgrade or repair is quite complicated is because they have specialized personnel and if anything goes wrong their warranty will cover it.

Still, even if you have the skills and decide to do it yourself and mess up your system you will be SOL because you messed it up, not the company.

Just a friendly reminder.
I know that, but...

I'd be willing to buy the mobo, ps and video card with a "no return" policy except for DOA. I'd give up my warranty for it too. Since I can do the work it wouldn't bother me. They should have that option, "void your warranty and we'll send you the stuff or send it to us and you keep your warranty." I have no problem with that at all. I'm sure I'm not the only one that thinks this.
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post #56 of 63
9/21/05 at 6:42am
If someone get the new Mobo without to pay,he get 99 Bottles Beer!
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post #57 of 63
9/21/05 at 7:18am
Spiel mit mir
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post #58 of 63
9/21/05 at 8:55am
Ok if you get the Mobo i send you beer...
(i hope you get one and i too)
Hmm look..we in Germany had only the 200 Watt adapter...
http://www.alienware.de/GearShop_Pag...spx?CatId=1092
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post #59 of 63
9/22/05 at 3:47am
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Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
I did not order a mobo with my laptop. I did not see anything called mobo in the configurator. Does it plug into one of the ports like a USB port? Can I buy one from Best Buy to plug in?
I heard daughter boards have less wrinkles.
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post #60 of 63
9/22/05 at 4:01am
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Originally Posted by keisur
In that case they should not make us send our machines back to get the upgrade(s) done. They should ship us the new mobo, PS and video card if they are going to charge us for them and let us do the swapping and install. If we have to send it into them to do the work then they should give use credit back for the cost of the parts they pull and keep (ie. old mobo, PS and video card) so it should be a relatively cheap upgrade, we shouldn't have to pay full price for the parts if they keep our original stuff is what I'm getting at.
With AW's upgrade plan, you get all your old hardware returned to you. AW has no use for used parts. In fact I've used my returned hardware to upgrade my older AW machines, and I had enough left to build the majority of a nice little backup machine.

The only time you don't get hardware back is if it's for a warranty return of a faulty part. They need the faulty part to get credited from the manufacturer.

AW used to ship all hardware they install out for upgrades, but they learned pretty quickly that people break motherboards, and short them out all the time, so they won't warrant customer's work when AW can't determine if they can handle the work or not. AW will send you any hardware for you to install yourself under warranty, or with phone assistance, with the exception of motherboards and processors (desktops anyway). Case replacements also need to be sent in, as basically they gut and rebuild the whole system. Not sure anymore what their policy is on power supplies. Replacing a power supply, you basically redo all of the wiring.

Personally, I don't think I'd do as good a job with the wiring doing it myself, so I'd rather have them do the work anyway. Others disagree because of the time factor, or shipping outside the US, and those are real issues, but the machines are warranted by AW, so they need to be able to control labor and materials during the contract anyway.

You can do your own memory, hard drives, opticals, sound cards, but if it involves a mobo or processor, I think you need to ship it to AW.
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