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Verizon internal cell technology for wireless internet on notebooks

post #1 of 20
9/20/05 at 12:33pm
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Dell is known to offer packages from Verizon "BroadbandAccess" which uses the PCMCIA slot card for wireless internet. This technology uses the cell towers @ Verizon for packet data just like phones use that have internet surfing capabilities.

This is being taken to the next level expected next year when Dell, HP, and Thinkpad may be going internal. They will be providing internal cellular technology in some of their notebooks to access the internet from anywhere you could use a cell phone on the Verizon network.
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post #2 of 20
9/28/05 at 2:18am
I hate Verizon... The are one of the founders on selling bull***
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post #3 of 20
9/28/05 at 8:10am
indeed, yet I have FIOS...
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post #4 of 20
9/28/05 at 12:31pm
I have had the Verizon PC5220 card for a year now and it has been fun. I was looking into the Kyocera KPC650 card which is supposed to be better but now that you have mentioned these offerings from Dell & HP I wonder when these laptops will be available and what the monthly rates would be for the service, now that Verizon rates have fallen to $59 per month. One good thing about the card though; you can plug it into a Powerbook and turn it into a wi-fi base station for other laptops to get the Broadband signal. I hear its possible with PC but since it's Windows it's an iffy task; some people get it to work and some can't. Cards are cool though for this purpose so I think I will stick with them; I mean almost any PC or Mac with a slot can use the Kyocera; all but a few models.
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post #5 of 20
12/1/05 at 12:54am
I would really like to see where this technology goes as far as GSM phone service is concerned. I know that the CDMA is faster as far as data transfer rates go, but GSM is not only much more supported (worldwide) but also in the simplicity of its sim card.

Imagine just having a sim card slot on the side of your laptop. Pop in a sim and not only do you have access to all your contacts, but now you can connect to the gsm network for phone and data access.

CDMA doesnt use anything like that. If the technology is anything like that in the handsets, then you would need to replace the entire module inside the computer since "YOUR" account is directly linked to the "ESN" on the module. In the phone handset this serial number is illegal to change and I think this would stand for the laptop as well. If you sold you laptop, the next person would need to buy a new module.

Of course this could all change. There is such a thing as a sim card for CDMA, ive seen the slots on nokias' before. Its not called a sim card thou, but it look s identical. Its used in other countries.
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post #6 of 20
12/1/05 at 10:30am
I've been using BroadbandAccess with the 5740 (Audiovox) card now for about two weeks and I must say I am impressed. I drove from Los Angeles to Cleveland and only lost coverage between Amarillo, TX and Oklahoma City. (I had full bars but could not connect. I suspect the network is set up and ready to be launched in that region.) I was posting to my blog the whole way while someone else drove, and last night I was playing Half-Life Deathmatch, albeit with a 250 ping, but still impressive. I don't see how either of the two more expensive cards offered by Verizon could be any better. I'm very happy, considering where I'm staying I cannot get DSL or cable service, and the nearest hotspot is a mile away. I only wish I could use it with my Axim.
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post #7 of 20
12/1/05 at 10:38am
When I fly back to L.A. for Christmas I am going to try a little experiment and attempt to go online via BroadbandAccess during the flight. I think it would work. Altitude might be a factor, and at 400 knots it may be a little laggy. Will post results here.
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post #8 of 20
12/1/05 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by Sushifiend3000
When I fly back to L.A. for Christmas I am going to try a little experiment and attempt to go online via BroadbandAccess during the flight. I think it would work. Altitude might be a factor, and at 400 knots it may be a little laggy. Will post results here.

LOL, I tried it Dallas to DC, no signal. I've had EVDO for a year next month and it's my main access now, I finally cut the land line a few months ago and am *wired*!
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post #9 of 20
12/1/05 at 2:58pm
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Originally Posted by Ether 7
I hate Verizon... The are one of the founders on selling bull***
I gotta agree with you there. Why is it that only the crappiest cell companies are making laptop-ish connectivity? Lame idea in my opinion. It can't be that hard can it? Shoot, I'd even pay for a cellular 56k modem... But, I'll never hand money to Sprint/Nextel or Verizon again. They just plain suck. If only T-Mobile had a counter to the nationalaccess plans...
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post #10 of 20
12/2/05 at 12:37am
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Originally Posted by kevineugenius
I gotta agree with you there. Why is it that only the crappiest cell companies are making laptop-ish connectivity? Lame idea in my opinion. It can't be that hard can it? Shoot, I'd even pay for a cellular 56k modem... But, I'll never hand money to Sprint/Nextel or Verizon again. They just plain suck. If only T-Mobile had a counter to the nationalaccess plans...
LOL

Envy sucks.

1Mb down/100K up from my 4Runner/job site/toilet doesn't suck.

Btw I just got two other laptops online via the Verizon card in the third. Very simple with all three running XP.
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post #11 of 20
12/2/05 at 11:20am
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Originally Posted by kevineugenius
I gotta agree with you there. Why is it that only the crappiest cell companies are making laptop-ish connectivity? Lame idea in my opinion. It can't be that hard can it? Shoot, I'd even pay for a cellular 56k modem... But, I'll never hand money to Sprint/Nextel or Verizon again. They just plain suck. If only T-Mobile had a counter to the nationalaccess plans...
I intend to use my Sprint PPC 6600 as a modem for my laptops once upgrade to EVDO will be available..Should give me the best of both worlds...
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post #12 of 20
12/19/05 at 9:08pm
Well shucky-rats! T-mobile now has PCMCIA cellular connectivity at average speeds of 56k for only $30/month, and I think if you already have a plan with them, it's discounted to $20/month! Before I make that decision however, what is the reception difference between a cellphone and a laptop? Will the laptop get better because of a built-in antenna, or does the PCMCIA not use the builtin and thus not get the boost from it? The laptop chassis could even act as interference, and thus get even less reception than a cell phone, but I have no experience in that matter and thus will ask someone out there.
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post #13 of 20
12/20/05 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by inspiron9200
indeed, yet I have FIOS...
i hate u!!!!111ONE1ONE!! btw guys, there is a laptop, i believe its a vaio, with integrated wireless anywhere technology in it.
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post #14 of 20
12/20/05 at 1:37pm
IBM already has internal EVDO (not a PC card) in it's Z60 Laptop.
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post #15 of 20
12/21/05 at 11:39pm
Verizon Uses CDMA technology thus giving them hands up since everything they want to evolve there network into already exists such as what Korea or Japan uses. GSM as the advantage of easy rollout since most of the word uses GSM technology. At the moment GSMs Data thru output is limited to 144kbps under EDGE capability but avgs 60-100k currently being offered by Tmobile ($20 a month with plan or 30 without) and Cingular (60 dollars a month with or without plan 2yr contract req) The competing group would be EVDO running of speeds capable of 1.5mbps but avgs 300-500k currently being offered by Verizon ($60 a month with plan $80 without a plan 2yr contract req) and Sprint ($20 with plan with HUGE restrictions and $60 without) Edge at the moment covers more of the US than EVDO but EDGE has been outdated by a new service called UMTS which can hit speeds as high as 3mbps but avgs 500-800 depending on how far you live from a tower.
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post #16 of 20
12/22/05 at 1:16am
Awesome info! Repbombs for you dude! One question though, who offers the latter two options? The 1.5+'ers. Thanks.
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post #17 of 20
12/22/05 at 5:13am
Cingular Offers it as a 3G Option. Costs are the same but you require a UMTS capable Handset or PC card and you must live in one of the 16 Major cities the service has been rolled out to.
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post #18 of 20
12/22/05 at 1:24pm
Yeah, I live out in the boonies so the in-city-only ones, like Verizon Broadband Access aren't really an option. I don't do the whole hotspot gig either. I've heard rumor that T-mobile will be offering a new service that doubles their current speed, so if that comes out I'll jump on that wagon.
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post #19 of 20
12/23/05 at 7:24am
Thats EDGE because Tmobile before hand only had GPRS *56kbps
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post #20 of 20
12/23/05 at 12:21pm
@inspiron9200

I noticed you said you have the FIOS service. Is that for that internet or tv or both? If you have it for the internet, how does it work? is it really really really fast? how about the install. I am interested to get it but i dont know if its available in my area yet.
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