Dell Sales confirm 7800go gtx for XPS2 and I9300 - Page 8  

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2451&p=20

And again, just to reiterate, we can see that the 7800 GTX (non-mobile) uses LESS POWER. I'm sure they can optimize this even more with the mobile gpu's. It uses a 110nm fabrication process, of course it's going to use less power.

And shoman, you're right... The overheating issues are my imagination. That's why we currently have multiple threads on the issue. Check them out. It might require some reading though.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/N...s/G70Go-10.jpg

That's part of Nvidia's presentation. Look at the 3dmark05 score, that's obviously not an ultra card.

We've been over this a million times. Look at the slide where it compares numbers from a geforce 6800 ultra. When it says power consumption it says 1X, meaning same power consumption.

Holy crap, this post started yesterday and there's already 10 pages worth of posts. I'd like to read this stuff but way too much garbage. I wish there's a smart tool to weed out the ignorant post from the good post so I can just read the good posts.

Are you talking about WOW?

That's the only game i've seen people having issues with.

Sounds to me like an optimization error in the game.

You don't know what 1x means and neither do I. 1.XXX vs 1.XXX possibly? That slide isn't focused on power comparisons, it's focused on feature comparisons. Look at the slide I posted which is obviously focused on power/performance comparisons. "Same power, twice the performance". That's not a Geforce 6800 go ULTRA, it's a vanilla Geforce 6800 go. If the power requirements are the same as an Ultra, then they would indeed use an Ultra in the comparison... Cheers.

7800 GTX for XPS Gen II
7800go for i9300

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Power is the same as the ultra. Power consumption 1x, compared with a 6800 GO Ultra, not sure how you could read that any other way.

And power is the same as the 6800 go, not sure how you could read that any other way.

What, no it isnt. GTX cant fit in the i9300 just as swap in swap out. Dell would have to offer up a 7800go.

Somebody screwed up

NVIDIA is known for having power hungry video cards.

Hence why they went with a 110nm fab process to lower power consumption.

You keep saying that like its some new novel concept that a company would only do something if it was profitable.

Its fun to speculate so I will continue (at risk of putting my foot in my mouth come 7 days from now)
Your right I do assume that XPS2 sales would be hurt and that may be flawed logic. However, I point back to two issues.
1. You assume that the market of people who purchase 9300 AND would be interested in the video upgrade to is more than the XPS2 market. I don't have numbers but I would bet that most of the business people don’t care about graphic card much and Most 9300 sales are with the X300 graphic card. That card has better battery life and will play every game out today quite nicely, just at lower settings.
2. The profit margin on CPUs is greatest at the high end. So Dell is shooting themselves in the foot already by not offering the highest CPU available from Intel on the 9300. That is unless they realize something along the lines of: most 9300 owners are going to drop purchase a lower CPU anyway. So dell can milk those customers interested in the high end CPU for a little more by pushing them into the XPS2. Therefore, it makes since (to me) that video upgrades would follow this same marketing logic. To my knowledge, the CPU option is a change in marketing strategy from the XPS1/9100 days. (Except the XPS1 did have the $800 upgrade option of the P4 3.4 Extreme)

To qualify my position, again: I personally don't care if 9300 owners get the upgraded video card. I will be surprised if it is available for reasons I have stated.
To the Lurkers: If you are in the market for a 9300 or XPS2 right now and the 7800 interests you, I suggest waiting 7 days. The rest of us are subject to Dells decision.

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from pct luke... he ought to know more than any of us since he's an actual reseller

http://www.notebookforums.com/showpo...85&postcount=4
http://www.notebookforums.com/showpo...43&postcount=9
http://www.notebookforums.com/showpo...6&postcount=12

from the aw forum:
http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=108552

a mobo swap was required for upgrading from the 6800 to the 6800 ultra for the clevo clones. so if 1 is ALSO required for the 7800, then this implies that the 7800 will not be directly compatible with the 9300.

I think Nvidia is either purposefully or perhaps accidentally twisting the facts a little. On the feature slide it appears they are comparing the 6800 Ultra to the 7800 GTX. However on 3DMARK05 slide they are comparing the 6800 to the 7800 GTX. This is misleading.

Well I think they are comparing it to their first 6 series card.

The 6800go was out before the ultra was.

That could very well be the case. Unfortunately they specifically state ULTRA on the feature slide so it leads to confusion.

Wow You think your special B/C you have a kids, a wife. Good for you. I hope to be a dad someday, but Just because you are older does not mean 9300 user are all kids. Lets see here, been working snice I was 15, parents don't pay for crap, I got my new car on my own, I payed for my 9300 on my own. Lets see I work full time and goto school full time, lets see here I also have life. Anything eles to add? If Dell allows the upgrade in the 9300 users thats fine be me. If they offer it in the Gen XPS2 thats cool. Everyone just needs to wait for Dell. It would be logical to give it to both if, B/C they already got the Gen 2 users money, and also the 9300 pwners money as well. They could care less if ppl paied 700$ more for there Gen 2's and now find the 9300 and Gen 2 are equal. Get over it you guys are all a bunch of little girls trying to make you feel special that your Gen XPS was worth the extra dough.

>I think Nvidia is either purposefully or perhaps accidentally twisting the facts a little. On the feature slide it appears they are comparing the 6800 Ultra to the 7800 GTX. However on 3DMARK05 slide they are comparing the 6800 to the 7800 GTX. This is misleading.<

Not really. They are comparing 2 different things here. In the first, they are basically saying it is twice as fast as the 6800go card and uses the same power as the goU.

Makes sense to me....