Dell Sales confirm 7800go gtx for XPS2 and I9300 - Page 5  

dell has sold more 9300's than xps gen2 as the 9300 has a larger demographic of potential buyers and users, alot of people would feel silly with an XPS Gen2 at the office, too much teeny bopper bling on it. Not that the bling is bad, it just doesnt say "professional". Dell fully knows that 9300 owners arent going to go out and buy an XPS, 7800 card or no otherwise they would have bought an XPS in the first place so they will not alienate that larger market by not offering a video card upgrade.
A vast majority of people outside the 18-25 age bracket would quickly pass on the xps due to excessive bling and only a WUXGA screen option which is a tad small for aging eyes. The XPS is a boutique niche market and as such is not Dells tops seller even if it is famed as Dell's flagship lappy. Though I would agree with you they probably do see a good profit margin on this product.

We will be seeing a 7800 GTX on the XPS M170 (lexus line) and a 7800 go card upgrade for the 9300. t XPS M140 ( also lexus line, what? you didnt really think they were gonna call them lexus did you?) will be the 14 inch widescreen laptop which will most likely carry a powerful graphics card too. As these lappies will be above the current pricing tier of the XPS gen2 (remember these are lexus line) its possible the current xps gen2 may not see the 7800 gtx though this is speculation on my part, there has to be some incentive to pay more for the xps m170.

I see alot of people on the forums drooling over this new card and chomping at the bit to sell their current systems to buy this new one due to the 7800 go gtx card, I would strongly urge anyone interested in buying new or upgrading to take a look at anandtech and tomshardware to get some factual information about these cards, as ive mentioned before, they are little more than a speed bump, higher clock and memory gddr3, from an architectural standpoint, there's nothing really innovative this time out as there was with the 6800 series over the previous generation of nvidia's.

But there are those people out there who absolutely must say my wee wee is bigger than yours look and see for yourself. You guys know who you are, spending all of your money on electronics and bumming rides to work because at age 27 you still dont have a car. Oh well, to each his own I suppose but the smart consumer will stay out of the pissing contest, at least for this round.

Cheers

I agree with you completely.

XPS2=Mustang GT
9300=V6 Mustang

Both functional, both marginally well put together, both have a lot of parts from mexico , the XPS2 just happens to have a little more power under the hood and is marketed to a different crowd.

What you said about there being multiple versions of the 7800 makes a lot of sense i.e. a 7800 GTX on the XPS M170 (Lexus line) and a 7800 go card upgrade for the 9300. My point was that DELL would probably never make available its highest end GPU for the i9300 as it would always want to reserve this honor for its most expensive notebook – whether it be the XPS GEN2 or the Lexus line you mentioned.

As far as the BLING goes – I was actually a little hesitant when I ordered the GEN 2 for that very reason. I perform consulting work for Fortune 1000 companies so I do sometimes go on-site with my XPS GEN 2. I simply keep my LED’s off and I think it looks fine.

As for the resolution this is something I struggled with as well. In fact my first purchase was an i9300 with WXGA+. However my prior notebook was WUXGA (i8600) and I just could not handle the drop in resolution. Text looked blocky to me. I did, however, have to crank of the DPI setting on the WUXGA to compensate and this does occasionally cause an anomaly in software using GDI calls i.e. web pages having text overlapping, drop down boxes being hard to read, etc. For the most part things are very readable. With the advent of Vista there is supposed to be support for higher DPI settings in Windows so this whole DPI problem should hopefully disappear in the near future and then everyone can enjoy super high resolution without having to squint.

Anettis - I am also a consultant (used to work for Computer Associates) and have the luxury of writing off my laptop purchases, so I tend to buy the top of the line item as I intend for it to last me at least 3 years.

I had the same issue with the "BLING" factor of the XPS 2. I wanted the extra screen real estate as I do Workflow development/coding and it makes a difference... We do live in a world based on "appearances" so I generally turn my LED's off when visiting client sites and have no wallpaper.

I can't wait for Windows Vista for that very reason - they will switch to vector base and get rid of GDI. The 19*12 will be really nice then!

As for the 7800 video card upgrade - just wait and see, it will all be revealed soon enough!

Doc - I worked for Andersen Consulting, then Solutions Consulting, and now I work for my own company. Anyway I have worked with a lot of CA products on the mainframe (which is my area of expertise).

Just FYI,
I did a poll back in march.

The average age of XPS2 owners was about 4 years older then the average age of 9300 owners.

I don't know where the link went. maybe ill make a new one.

I've seen adults act like 16 year olds on this forum.

This thread should die until we have some concrete facts.

PETITION TO CLOSE

heh, most parents won't fork over the extra money to buy thier kids an XPS2, just because the kids are spoiled doesn't mean the parents aren't thrifty.

More flame to the fire.

SECOND...this thread can be reopened on the 29th...
:P

lol, sheesh... Nobody is saying that professionals don't use XPS2's, but I would tend to agree with anettis because that was one of the reasons I cancelled an XPS2 and went with a 9300. It just looks insane and unprofessional (in my opinion). I wanted something with power, yet modern and more conservative that didn't obnoxiously try to attract attention. If you think the XPS2 is not a niche market you are kidding yourself. It's the most expensive notebook they offer, it's definitely not going to be the major seller.

As to the claim that Dell will lose money by offering it as an upgrade to the 9300 users. Think creatively here, there's a very simple solution. Provide it as an upgrade for 9300's , but don't allow it as an upgradeable option for existing 9300's. That way if people really want a 9300 with a 7800 graphics card, they will have to buy the 6800 go, and then shell out money for the upgrade which will dissuade buyers in taking that route. Hell, I don't even think it would be a major deal to offer it as an initial upgrade on 9300's. I think Dell is starting to realize that there's plenty of professional and older gamers out there that don't want all the obnoxious, christmas lights aesthetics on the XPS2, and just want a professional looking laptop with some strong gaming power.

I think it's pretty lame to call the XPS a christmas tree cause of it's lights, or to say it's "unprofessional".

People buy things that are functional, not professional looking.

If you want to say things like that, then try this one, if the 9300 is more suited for business / professional people why does it need a 7800?

And who would know more about being unprofessional than someone with "Suck on that" in their profile.

I agree with shoman. Like I said in my earlier post as long as I keep the LED's off the laptop looks fine in a corporate setting.

When did forums become a professional place

I dont care if the 9300 is upgradable or not. I don't game much and the 6800 meets all of my needs.

It was a little joke. Just trying to keep it light.

It just burns all the xps 2 owners that the 9300 could possibly get a 7800 upgrade!

I don't blame you for being like that. If I knew someone paid $1200 less than me and got the same preformance I would be mad to.

Well, all depends on the config of the system... I'd hate to know that the guy that got the 1.6, 256 ram, 60gb hd, lower res screen + 7800go is faster then the XPS.

lol, too funny...