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Alienware Amd 64 Laptop

post #1 of 8
11/29/03 at 3:56am
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ALIENWARE AMD 64 LAPTOP. I found this laptop while surfing. If you look in the botttom left at the display card you can see that it is an Alienware amd 64. I wonder if I should wait untill this laptop comes out?http://amdzone.com/articleimages/con...on64laptop.jpg Check out http://www.amdboard.com/athlon_64_notebook.html these laptops too. They
have the AMD 64 bit processor to.
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post #2 of 8
11/29/03 at 4:49am
That would be very cool if that was an option...perhaps it will be sometime "soon".

In all honesty-- that has to be an option at some point. To bad I waited 3 years to only get a Hyper Threaded P4...O well.

dems da breaks--capiche?

--Remington
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post #3 of 8
11/29/03 at 11:56am
That's not an Alienware. It's a Uniwill because AW doesn't make their own cases. Since that AMD 64 laptop is made by uniwill, AW is going to buy it in the future from them to sell to us.
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post #4 of 8
11/29/03 at 12:41pm
It is an Alienware... look at the sign for the manufacturer offering it on the upper left.

And before we get into this, yes... it is a Uniwill chassis. That said, there is a reason that the AW name is listed on the desk where that lappy is being shown in the pic. That said, you are correct, Uniwill made the chassis, and probably put the AMD chip in there... AW is just taking the credit and offering it to us sometime around Christmas, or soon after.

FYI: Has AMD been able to deal with the heat issue on the new chip yet? That's the thing that kills the idea for me... the new chip runs rather hot from what I've read (even hotter than what is listed for the Intel 3.2Ghz chips... which is rather hot).
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post #5 of 8
11/29/03 at 4:02pm
Hi,

Speaking with the Vice Pres of Alienware by email, It is an Alienware product that will be released sometime January 2004, hopefully, with either ATI or Nvidia's new GPU processors (256mb of DDR). Personally, I believe that heat will be more of an issue with the new 64-bit AMD chips. This is one thing that AMD has not been able to defeat INTEL in. Also, although the chips run faster than Intel in some games, it does not thoroughly beat INTEL's P4 3.2ghz in Content creation and Encoding benchmarks, which in my opinion is important for me. There are some games that AMD will beat Intel, but not all, and not by a very wide margin. In addition, I'm not sure about the reality of 64-bit computing becoming the standard soon, because there are millions of companies and consumers alike that have invested in 32-bit machines and software; I don't see 64-bit becoming the standard soon, maybe in the future. Plus, if you buy a 64-bit machine now, where it is just the forfront of technology...it will be obsolete, regardless, because once 64-bit computing does become the norm, those AMD 3200+ (2GHZ) will be too slow by then. My take is to stick with what is current, and wait for the 64-bit world to evolve and mature before buying into something that is not a for sure thing yet, especially when the OS/ applications are not even developed to take advantage of the technology. It'll be a long time before this new technology matures anyway...who wants to buy something that would still be buggy! I'm not an AMD basher, I actually have machines running AMD, but I believe what I've said makes more sense...wait, just buy what is currently the most widely used mature technology and less heat.
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post #6 of 8
11/29/03 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by Yoda117
FYI: Has AMD been able to deal with the heat issue on the new chip yet? That's the thing that kills the idea for me... the new chip runs rather hot from what I've read (even hotter than what is listed for the Intel 3.2Ghz chips... which is rather hot).
Maybe I'm wrong but I was under the impression the amount of power the opteron pulls is lower than the Pentium 4 and that it disapates the heat better.

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The one saving grace AMD has is power. The power consumption for the K8 models is extremely low. Exactly how low is open to debate however, because the publicly available data sheets for the K8 chips are curiously incomplete. There are, however, quite complete data sheets if you are willing to sign an NDA. Unfortunately, we are not. Whatever the exact numbers are, as Aces Hardware shows, the actual consumption is well below that of a comparable Xeon. Why AMD wants to hide this is beyond us, we would be shouting an advantage like this from every rooftop we could climb to. Even empirical testing shows that a 244 running at full steam, with only an aluminum heatsink (OK, it had a copper slug), is cool to the touch.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9552

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Based on the very rough indications we've gathered, I am inclined to say that the power dissipation of the 1.8 GHz Opteron is between 50 and 60 Watts, and 50 Watts is probably closer than 60 Watts. This could make the Opteron very attractive in clusters, as the electricity bill for CPU power dissipation and for air conditioning can be a very important cost factor.
http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=55000268

If anyone has more exact figures I would be most intrested in reading them.
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post #7 of 8
11/29/03 at 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by Yoda117
It is an Alienware... look at the sign for the manufacturer offering it on the upper left.

And before we get into this, yes... it is a Uniwill chassis. That said, there is a reason that the AW name is listed on the desk where that lappy is being shown in the pic. That said, you are correct, Uniwill made the chassis, and probably put the AMD chip in there... AW is just taking the credit and offering it to us sometime around Christmas, or soon after.

FYI: Has AMD been able to deal with the heat issue on the new chip yet? That's the thing that kills the idea for me... the new chip runs rather hot from what I've read (even hotter than what is listed for the Intel 3.2Ghz chips... which is rather hot).
That's exactly what i was saying or trying to say.
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post #8 of 8
11/29/03 at 6:37pm
"What the hell's a Jiggawatt!?!!" -Marty McFly




-Craig
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