oh i didnt have a post in this thread, and i can find the post that i had bout the zd8000 wat i kno about it and wat i think about it. but ill jus say everything is great about it. im jus the average joe wen it comes to using my computer, play counterstrike, city of heroes, live for speed, battlefield 2, myspace, aim, movies. stuff like that. oh and every now and then home work. so yea iono for answeres to ur cooling issue, http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=107091
and as far as ur battery question. yea battery life sux using a 17' high power p4. but hey these are usually desktop replacements rite??? i would say there ment to be plugged in. but if u have to, for me my average time not plugged in is 1:30 average. oh and the noise thing, do ppl have super sensitive ears or sumn??? i dont get wat ppl say wen they say it can get loud. i dont think its loud at all. a ps2 running sounds louder than the laptop. i use my laptop 3-5 hours at a time, so i kno all my fans are running, and wen it is, i really dont notice it. bottom line is this laptop is GREAT couldnt of wished for ne thing better for how much it was. i think this laptop is worth way more than wat it goes for, but thats why we love hp. iv never had a problem with my zd, and i dont think i will for a very long time. unless i step on it, or spill coffee on the keyboard, or shoot it with my gun.