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post #21 of 39
10/5/05 at 7:58pm
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Originally Posted by mmzmaster
Nice... USB stick as ram... sooner we don't need ram to be slotted in the motherboard lol
Oh yeah... USB memory is the way of the future...

USB 2.0 is limited to 480 Mbps. MegaBITS.

PC2100 DDR RAM (That's 266 Mhz, for those of you playing along at home) is limited to a mere 2.1 GBps. GigaBYTES. USB 2.0 is 35 times slower than PC2100 DDR RAM. The DDR2 in my XPS is running at just under 4.3 GBps, stock. That's over 71 times faster than this USB RAM you speak of. This is all assuming the flash memory can read and write at anywhere near that speed, which, of course, it can't.

It's useless.
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post #22 of 39
10/5/05 at 8:32pm
yes, it is useless, just like most of the other features in vista. i used beta one for a couple days and i got bored really quickly.there will be some minor improvements in the future, but dont expect it to be anything big. vista is more hype and eyecandy than anything else.
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post #23 of 39
10/5/05 at 8:52pm
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Originally Posted by 8086ed
Oh yeah... USB memory is the way of the future...

USB 2.0 is limited to 480 Mbps. MegaBITS.

PC2100 DDR RAM (That's 266 Mhz, for those of you playing along at home) is limited to a mere 2.1 GBps. GigaBYTES. USB 2.0 is 35 times slower than PC2100 DDR RAM. The DDR2 in my XPS is running at just under 4.3 GBps, stock. That's over 71 times faster than this USB RAM you speak of. This is all assuming the flash memory can read and write at anywhere near that speed, which, of course, it can't.

It's useless.
You given Bill a call yet? He's waiting on your advice of how to run the biggest software company of all time.
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post #24 of 39
10/5/05 at 10:53pm
That was only mildly amusing the first time you said it, couldn't you have thought of something else?
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post #25 of 39
10/5/05 at 11:59pm
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Originally Posted by K9387
That was only mildly amusing the first time you said it, couldn't you have thought of something else?
Agreed.
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post #26 of 39
10/6/05 at 12:04am
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Basically Windows Vista is only improved the file system format and new visual effects to match up with the Apple Mac OS X since Apple is moving to Intel powered processor enabling more Windows programs that will be able to run on Apple. (more compability)
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post #27 of 39
10/6/05 at 12:13am
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Originally Posted by 8086ed
Oh yeah... USB memory is the way of the future...

USB 2.0 is limited to 480 Mbps. MegaBITS.

PC2100 DDR RAM (That's 266 Mhz, for those of you playing along at home) is limited to a mere 2.1 GBps. GigaBYTES. USB 2.0 is 35 times slower than PC2100 DDR RAM. The DDR2 in my XPS is running at just under 4.3 GBps, stock. That's over 71 times faster than this USB RAM you speak of. This is all assuming the flash memory can read and write at anywhere near that speed, which, of course, it can't.

It's useless.

Agreed.

People are complaining about HDD speeds but yet they want support for USB Ram....
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post #28 of 39
10/7/05 at 2:28am
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Originally Posted by kur1j
Agreed.

People are complaining about HDD speeds but yet they want support for USB Ram....
The USB thing has me kind excited - even 480mbps is about 3x faster than a 7200 RPM harddrive. If you do lots of graphics work and find your machine paging to your hardisk - this could speed things up considerably if it actually works.
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post #29 of 39
10/7/05 at 2:39am
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Originally Posted by loafer87gt
The USB thing has me kind excited - even 480mbps is about 3x faster than a 7200 RPM harddrive. If you do lots of graphics work and find your machine paging to your hardisk - this could speed things up considerably if it actually works.
No it is not faster,
USB2.0=480mbits/sec = 60megabytes/sec
ATA 133= 133megabytes/sec

HDD is faster!
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post #30 of 39
10/7/05 at 3:47am
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Originally Posted by b0m8er
No it is not faster,
USB2.0=480mbits/sec = 60megabytes/sec
ATA 133= 133megabytes/sec

HDD is faster!
yeah.. but does a hdd go 133MB/s... now thats the real question :-P .. my 7200rpm laptop drive gets on average less than 40.. even sata2 drives dont go max spec
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post #31 of 39
10/7/05 at 4:49am
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Originally Posted by Deviant25
yeah.. but does a hdd go 133MB/s... now thats the real question :-P .. my 7200rpm laptop drive gets on average less than 40.. even sata2 drives dont go max spec
I dont think USB can "go max spec" as well.
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post #32 of 39
10/7/05 at 10:03am
ms just wants to make some money, vista is worthless
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post #33 of 39
10/7/05 at 10:07am
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Originally Posted by TeeJayDM
I dont think USB can "go max spec" as well.
Agreed! And flash memory has far less read/write cycles than HDD.
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post #34 of 39
10/7/05 at 10:07am
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Originally Posted by dcikra
ms just wants to make some money, vista is worthless
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post #35 of 39
10/7/05 at 2:46pm
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Originally Posted by 8086ed
Oh yeah... USB memory is the way of the future...

USB 2.0 is limited to 480 Mbps. MegaBITS.

PC2100 DDR RAM (That's 266 Mhz, for those of you playing along at home) is limited to a mere 2.1 GBps. GigaBYTES. USB 2.0 is 35 times slower than PC2100 DDR RAM. The DDR2 in my XPS is running at just under 4.3 GBps, stock. That's over 71 times faster than this USB RAM you speak of. This is all assuming the flash memory can read and write at anywhere near that speed, which, of course, it can't.

It's useless.
i don;t think ur quite getting it, slower then ram yes, faster then swap file ohh yea. and its swapable, u can buy a 4 gig flash drive for 100 bucks, and use that one on a desktop and laptop and never use swap file.....and i don;t think USB 2 will be the last speed increase on the interface
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post #36 of 39
10/7/05 at 4:17pm
Well I've seen benchmarks of USB2 flashdrives giving them 7mb/s or so.
Ugh, considering 400mhz ddr ram does what 3200mb/s?
Really who would do this?
Only company ever stupid enough to do this would be microsoft

oh...
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post #37 of 39
10/7/05 at 5:40pm
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Originally Posted by psi777
i don;t think ur quite getting it, slower then ram yes, faster then swap file ohh yea. and its swapable, u can buy a 4 gig flash drive for 100 bucks, and use that one on a desktop and laptop and never use swap file.....and i don;t think USB 2 will be the last speed increase on the interface
I wonder has anyone here tried it.... you know using a flash drive for a swap file. It would be interesting to see what the perfromance gain (if any) would be over the HDD
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post #38 of 39
10/7/05 at 9:48pm
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Originally Posted by mmzmaster
Basically Windows Vista is only improved the file system format and new visual effects to match up with the Apple Mac OS X since Apple is moving to Intel powered processor enabling more Windows programs that will be able to run on Apple. (more compability)
... You're saying that because the OS's both run on the same hardware, apps will work on both OS's? Have you heard of Linux? Have you ever ported an app to work with Linux? It doesn't work right out of the box... It takes a lot of effort and the use of even MORE apps to get a Win32 program to work under Linux.

Sorry if I sound like I'm flaming, but if you guys are going to try to sound like you know what you're talking about, you'd better know what you're talking about.
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post #39 of 39
10/7/05 at 9:53pm
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No, what I mean is that now Apple have to recreate OS X into OSX 86x edition for the Intel chip processor compability. This will also lead apple to be more able or chances to run Windows application with some emulation... (more stable)
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