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Adding memory to 9880

post #1 of 17
10/9/05 at 2:08am
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I want to add to the 512 (2 modules) that came with the system. When I purchase a new pair, do they have to go in the slots that the 2 256's are in now and put the 256's in the other slots (seems I recall something to this effect but don't know for sure.)
I noticed that Newegg showed some memory as PC2 4200. Is that different than "regular" 4200?
Also, could I add (2) 1 gig modules leaving the 512 also in place or do I need to add (2) 256's to match the two installed already?

If anyone has any suggestions which brand to buy and/or where, I'd appreciate that as well.
THanks
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post #2 of 17
11/3/05 at 10:10am
I have the same questions *BUMP*
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post #3 of 17
11/3/05 at 1:36pm
1. The laptop can not use more than 2.8 GB Memory
2. The 2 bottom slots are one pair and the 2 top are one pair. So the 2 bottom or top need to be the same.
3. I'm not sure if the memory allocation will suffer if the 2 top and 2 top are from different companies. It would be a good idea that all 4 have the same CAS specifications. But I have not seen anyone running tests with different RAM maker or different CAS in the same machine.
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post #4 of 17
11/3/05 at 5:11pm
1. Wrong.
This laptop can use up to 4 GB.
The reason everyone is writing only 2.8 GB is available is because Windows XP and older cannot. The reason: 32 bit Operating Systems cannot access more than 2.8 GB, 64 bit OS on the other hand, can handle 16 TB (TeraByte = 1600 GB) of memory. (CPU depended)
This is only a possible with a true 64 bit system, like Windows Vista.

64 bit can handle: 18.446.744.073.709.551.615 bits per second and 40 of the 64 bit is used for memory.
This means that the 64 bit CPU can handle 136 GB of memory.

Source:
http://www.help2go.com/article155.html
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post #5 of 17
11/4/05 at 2:13pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by stormie
1. Wrong.
This laptop can use up to 4 GB.
The reason everyone is writing only 2.8 GB is available is because Windows XP and older cannot. The reason: 32 bit Operating Systems cannot access more than 2.8 GB, 64 bit OS on the other hand, can handle 16 TB (TeraByte = 1600 GB) of memory. (CPU depended)
This is only a possible with a true 64 bit system, like Windows Vista.

64 bit can handle: 18.446.744.073.709.551.615 bits per second and 40 of the 64 bit is used for memory.
This means that the 64 bit CPU can handle 136 GB of memory.

Source:
http://www.help2go.com/article155.html
U are the one wrong, for the 9880 it's different. 4 GB cannot be put in a 9880 .
Here's this quote from Luke without misleading:


98x0 common questions answered
This thread was originally coceived as a rant for the over asked question "Why isn't 4 GB offered in the 98x0" However I will now try to update it with a few commonly asked questions about this laptop.



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Originally Posted by Luke@PCTorque
Ultra motherboard version
4GB Memory
The Clevo D900T(9860, 9880, Area 51 7700, Hypersonic EX7, or any other variant there of) model can not us 4GB of memory, while as stated by the Intel 915P chipset it can address up to 4GB, 1.17GB of this addressable memory bandwidth is reserved for other hardware devices... no matter what operating system you use, this is still the case(Yes that means you cannot use it with XP 64!!).
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post #6 of 17
11/4/05 at 8:02pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Atype007
U are the one wrong, for the 9880 it's different. 4 GB cannot be put in a 9880 .
Here's this quote from Luke without misleading:


98x0 common questions answered
This thread was originally coceived as a rant for the over asked question "Why isn't 4 GB offered in the 98x0" However I will now try to update it with a few commonly asked questions about this laptop.
I also recall the above statement which appears to be a minor limitation of the 98XX. tks for the responses.
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post #7 of 17
11/12/05 at 12:24am
Are you sure about the way the memory is allocated in the 9880? What I mean is, the bottom 2 are a pair and the top 2 are a pair?

Reason I ask is, I just installed another gig last night. My initial install had it setup just like you said, original 2 512 boards were installed in the bottom two slots, and the 2 Kingston 512's I put in, were in the top 2 slots.

F.E.A.R. would crash almost instantly. Other games would crash as well so, I rearranged the memory to the setup of the 2 Kingston 512's being in one side of the memory bay, and the 2 original sticks being on the other side of the memory bay.

Everything works flawlessly now. No problems of any kind.

With these dual channel memory boards, I realize that it's very important for the 2 sticks to be identical. Well, my system doesn't work until my memory is configured with 2 of the same on one side and, the other 2 on the other side. Not 2 similar sticks on the bottom and 2 similar on the top.

Just my VERY recent experience.
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post #8 of 17
11/12/05 at 1:32am
anyone ever bother to read the manual?
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post #9 of 17
11/12/05 at 1:32am
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Originally Posted by Painkilller
Are you sure about the way the memory is allocated in the 9880? What I mean is, the bottom 2 are a pair and the top 2 are a pair?

Reason I ask is, I just installed another gig last night. My initial install had it setup just like you said, original 2 512 boards were installed in the bottom two slots, and the 2 Kingston 512's I put in, were in the top 2 slots.

F.E.A.R. would crash almost instantly. Other games would crash as well so, I rearranged the memory to the setup of the 2 Kingston 512's being in one side of the memory bay, and the 2 original sticks being on the other side of the memory bay.

Everything works flawlessly now. No problems of any kind.

With these dual channel memory boards, I realize that it's very important for the 2 sticks to be identical. Well, my system doesn't work until my memory is configured with 2 of the same on one side and, the other 2 on the other side. Not 2 similar sticks on the bottom and 2 similar on the top.

Just my VERY recent experience.
What happens if you try like RAM on a diagonal ?
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post #10 of 17
11/17/05 at 7:57am
You can put 4 gigs in... the system will only see 2.8 gigs of it. Since few are using a 64 bit op system, or playing 64bit games or running 64 bit programs...I do not see where telling us currently the benefits of having a 64 bit system. I think we know, I think we are aware. His question is regarding the system he does have and that system only sees 2.8 gigs of ram.
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post #11 of 17
11/17/05 at 5:02pm
I just installed 2Gigs of ram in my 9860 and as you said it only sees 2.75 GB, but so what... my system is still faster than it was and the memory was cheap (2x 1GB sticks of kingston ram $163.00 and free second day shipping). Life is good!!!
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post #12 of 17
11/18/05 at 4:54am
The extra gig of ram I put in really makes things quicker, especially when shutting down some resource intensive games, like Quake IV or Black/White II, F.E.A.R., ect. As soon as I shut it down, the desktop comes back up about as quick as changing a channel on tv.
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post #13 of 17
11/18/05 at 9:18am
hey morpheoussc400, where u get those mem sticks from?
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post #14 of 17
11/18/05 at 2:01pm
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Originally Posted by denn_76
hey morpheoussc400, where u get those mem sticks from?
zipzoomfly http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...tCode=85016-72
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post #15 of 17
11/18/05 at 8:28pm
thanx
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post #16 of 17
12/14/05 at 7:00pm
same here, just thinking about adding 2gig (2x1gig actually). newegg has a pretty good offer (G.SKILL 1GB 200-Pin DDR2 SO-DIMM DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) Notebook Memory) for $64 a gig. anybody heard of this brand before? is it any good?? and the same, stupid as it sounds, are there any probs experienced by anyone - using diff brands and sizes in a 9860? dont really want to toss the 2 512 sticks and dont see the point to put 4gig in considering that you dont get more then 2.8gig usable anyway.
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post #17 of 17
12/14/05 at 7:12pm
little update, found some review on x-bit labs about g. skill memory:

"G.Skill is not perhaps a well-known name among the common public, but is a respectable brand in the overclocking community. G.Skill International Enterprise Co., Ltd. with headquarters in Taipei, Taiwan, was founded in 1989 by a group of enthusiasts. The company focuses on manufacturing PC memory as well as flash cards of Secure Digital, MultiMedia Card and xD Picture Card formats and USB 2.0 flash drives with capacities up to 1GB. As a maker of top-end overclocker-targeted memory G.Skill debuted only in 2003. So, the company has not been long on the markets of Europe and America, but has already won universal recognition.

The company’s overclocker-friendly DDR Extreme series currently includes over 15 products ranging from DDR400 to DDR600 with varying timings. It is in this series that G.Skill offers memory modules with exceptional characteristics and fine overclockability. All memory modules from G.SKILL come with a lifetime warranty and pass through factory tests to guarantee their best quality, performance and compatibility."

so might be not a bad deal at all.
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