Dell FINALLY offers 8600 with ATI 9600

That's nice. Clevo OEMs have advantages over it, but the Dell is a Pentium M, which is a big plus.

Sweet - now I can pay approx $800 bucks more for a slower machine with slower RAM and a worse screen and crappy tech support, but on the plus side I will get an hour or so more battery life - wicked.

</sarcasm>

5680=4 hours or so battery life?

WOW Bratag! Where d'ya get your matter-antimatter battery for your 5680? Or is it cold fusion reactor battery?

It only goes up to AGP 4X also.

Bratag -

FYI it is more than an hour and a half diffrenece in battery life haha....I get atleast 4 hours of battery with my Dell D800 playing DVDs. Kick that up another hour if I am just writing a paper or something.

It seems that all of your posts are very Pro-Sager and Anti-everything else haha. I have no problem with the pro-sager part...hell I was 99% of the way to buying a Sager but I use my laptop away from an outlet too much and I wanted a true port replicator, which my laptop resides in when plugged in. Just please be more open to others' needs and what they like haha... bashing isn't so cool.

It seems time to put my current 8600 on the market for sale. An upgrade to 1.7 and the ATI would be great.... now if only I can recoup the money I paid for this one.

I knew it ..I knew It

I just bought one with the nividia cuz i got tired of waiting and now the ati is out.....

And my system shiped on 12/4....

I knew it ..I knew It

Now to decide what to do .

I cant listen to biased comments like bratag's anymore. anyway you should return your system (30 day money back) and reorder it with the ati however be warned.. no spectacular deals this week to justify costs perhaps you could wait on another sale or even order the radeon seperately its going to be 149 in spare parts

Kinda pricey for a system right now. Im going to wait about a month and see if they package some sort of deal. Like a free dvd burner like the one they just had.

All this got for me now is battery life advantage over the Sager. But im still leaning towards the 4780 because of the better widescreen price/performance ratio.

That’s the one i got.

-150 for turkey day
-200 mail in
$2300

+ 1 128 nividia card
Shipped yesterday
+ 1 headache

i'm wondering what a pro turbo is... another dell word?

How is what I said biased. I simply said the Dell was much more expensive (it is), that it has slower RAM (it does), that the screen I priced out was worse (ok fine you can get the WUXGA for more money), and the tech support was crap (Called DELL support recently - wanted to disembowel myself last time I had to call).

The battery life currently for an 8600 1.7 is 226 mins - I get approx 180 mins from my dual battery 5680, now correct me if I am wrong but thats less than 1hr difference.

So you tell me exactly how I am biased by stating facts.

The 8600 has one battery, not two, and Pentium Ms are quieter and cooler than other CPUs. However you are right that Dell tech support is total crap now. Used to be good, but no longer.

Someone likes to stretch the facts....or in other words, lie.

Oh really - well gee lets see I got my stretched facts from


http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.html?i=1899&p=9
http://reviews.cnet.com/Dell_Inspiro...?tag=pdtl-list

and

http://www.sagerforums.net/showthrea...hlight=battery
http://www.sagerforums.net/showthrea...hlight=battery

Those are just a few I checked. These are entirely independent of my own 5680 experiences with the battery.
As to the 5680 having 2 batteries - well yes thats true - but we are comparing machines as a whole here - not individual components.

Your move - feel free to provide me with some reviews etc to the contrary - until then you can just about kiss my ass and stop calling me a liar.

Now I am trying to decide what to do whether to live with what I got or deal with the hassle of a replacement.

what would you guys do ???

Dear tempt,

It is well worth it to get the replacement.

Now, said the egoist, to my problem:

I am really in a qunadary now, as there are three possible choices, given my budget and needs.

I am not a gamer, and edit video seldom.

Sager 5680, UXGA, 2.8, 512, DVDRW, wireless - $2087
Dell, WUXGA, 1.7, 512, DVDRW, wireless- 2539
Hyperdata, AMD64bit 3000, 512, DVDRW, wls - 1950


Now, although all three are about the same, the following factors interest me:
1. Dell has financing available, keeping my credit cards free.
2. I do a lot of text reading, so the clearer screen is nice.
3. The dell price includes the three year warranty, since it is in the financing.
4. I am mostly concerned with a three year useful lifecycle, thus quality is very important, and robustness. Flimsy will not do.
5. I am afraid of what will happen with the Hyperdata tech support as it is non-existant, sager almost so, and Dell, while it sucks, is available Sundays at one am, when things usually go wrong.
6. I usually run linux, so I only need the Windows for weird hardware, video capture, and Streets and Trips....
7. Run on batery hardly ever.


Thus, between Dell and Sager, which is sturdier?
Is the difference in speed between 1.7M and 2.8 noticeable in favour of either?
How likely is the quality of the hyperdate box to equal the sager?
Are the Dell's as flimsy as one hears, as I travel all the time/

thanks for the help.

I promise, as soon as I get whichever I shall post my complete tweaked linux install in the appropriate forum as thanks to all of you who help so generously.

Best wishes,
Martin

Aside from the battery savings..the cetrino/banias processors also run cooler...thus less fan noise and heat...plus they are lighter also...they could also be made thinner..
a 1.5 ghz performs like a 2.6 ghz p4 cuz its more efficient....has a bigger L2 cache too. only downside is the FSB speed...400mhz and pc2700 for memory.

I have not owned a sager so i can not say from experience but others on this forum will tell you they are very sturdy. I will say i am not disapointed with the build quality of the 8600 we ordered 2 on for me and on for the little woman (lol) hers is fine i want the better card if it is worth that agrivation.