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Dual Core Yonah Chips to consume TWICE as much power as the current top mobile chip!

post #1 of 33
10/14/05 at 2:02pm
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check out the article below...

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile/...012220034.html
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post #2 of 33
10/14/05 at 2:11pm
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Originally Posted by draco
Regardless of the power usage, considering these Yonah chips are out within maybe 3-4 months, this might have sealed the deal in terms of me waiting for a new notebook. If Dell put out a 35%+ coupon I may change my mind, but beyond that it might be good to wait.
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post #3 of 33
10/14/05 at 2:19pm
And on the next thread can we usa Yonah in our 9300/xps' hehe
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post #4 of 33
10/14/05 at 3:44pm
Interesting. I like the part where it says "...Yonah processors will keep its second core suspended when on battery mode, thus, prolonging battery life." It's just awesome because that defeats the purpose of dual core. And the fact that it takes more power is disappointing. I do enjoy my 2 hours of battery life, and more is always better.
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post #5 of 33
10/14/05 at 4:31pm
The twice the power consumption is only for there extreme version of the chip. It should be about normal consumption for the normal chips.
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post #6 of 33
10/14/05 at 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by |-007-|
Interesting. I like the part where it says "...Yonah processors will keep its second core suspended when on battery mode, thus, prolonging battery life." It's just awesome because that defeats the purpose of dual core. And the fact that it takes more power is disappointing. I do enjoy my 2 hours of battery life, and more is always better.

Usually you can configure things like that. They're probably just meaning that it's a feature. For instance, my PM doesn't kick down to 800MHz when I go to battery, even though it can.

-Doc
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post #7 of 33
10/14/05 at 4:42pm
As for power consumption, I have an XPS. I don't care about battery life. I use my computer as an ultra-mobile desktop computer with a built in UPS. Bring on the dual-cores! I ran a dual PII-300 back when the CPU's were the latest and greatest. (And Voodoo 2 SLI!) I miss the way things work with a dual CPU setup!

-Doc
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post #8 of 33
10/14/05 at 5:13pm
Hmmm. A pentium M has a 27w TDP which is not its maximum. A turion has a 35w maximum and may actually be more power friendly under load than a Pentium M.

Yonah's in laptops may be a nightmare returning us to the thermal characteristics of the Pentium 4 mobile or the 62w athlons in laptops.

It makes sense through. One core = 27w, add a second core minus the cache and go to 49w. Personally I'd rather have the CPU stay at 27w and instead use that extra TDP to get a better graphics chipset.
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post #9 of 33
10/14/05 at 5:18pm
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Originally Posted by katorga
Personally I'd rather have the CPU stay at 27w and instead use that extra TDP to get a better graphics chipset.

That's an excellent point.

-Doc
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post #10 of 33
10/14/05 at 5:39pm
Well what do you guys think, Intel are magicians? 2 cores = twice the power consumption. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
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post #11 of 33
10/14/05 at 6:13pm
As I said before 50 watt consumption is for the extreme gaming version, the normal ones should suck up around 31 watts.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26904
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post #12 of 33
10/14/05 at 6:21pm
You guys need to read more indepth. As you can see Yonah will be split into several groups. The E is probably the 'extreme' or maybe the entertainment version Intel's touting for the small systems for the living room. It could be that since those boxes don't need to focus on battery power at all, they can have a higher power consumption. Just think, the ones that make the cut go to the mobile versions and the ones that don't, they put up the vcore a bit to make it work and sell it as a SFF chip. Win win. Kinda...

The regular Yonahs will still be around 31W as previously reported.
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post #13 of 33
10/14/05 at 7:44pm
makes sense, 2 cores, twice the power
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post #14 of 33
10/14/05 at 11:21pm
so us i9300 owners should keep a look out for T class chips then? im actually hoping the top end pentium-Ms drop in price when these hit so i stick one in my laptop.. reckon that would become affordable any time soon? cos that would in pentium 4 terms be like an increase from a 3.2 to a 3.8 or higher no?
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post #15 of 33
10/15/05 at 3:05am
wow, i can see now how some people get really frustrated on this board. the 50 watt yonah article was explained in the same thread and still 3 hours later people are still dense enough to think that the original post is entirely accurate. do you guys not read the additional post in the same thread before commenting?

anyway this has already been stated in this thread but i guess it needs to be stated again, the normal version of yonah is the "t" version and will consume 31 watts which is only 4 watts more than the current single core dothans (though who knows how much more this will be under full load) so NO, it's not two cores, twice the power. the "E" is the extreme edition of yonah and will be a bad ass version of it but we're not sure exactly what additional features/performance it will have such as higher clocks, hyperthreading, increased cache, and maybe even 64bit (though this part is doubtful). so there you have it people.
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post #16 of 33
10/15/05 at 3:35am
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Originally Posted by mav99
wow, i can see now how some people get really frustrated on this board. the 50 watt yonah article was explained in the same thread and still 3 hours later people are still dense enough to think that the original post is entirely accurate. do you guys not read the additional post in the same thread before commenting?

anyway this has already been stated in this thread but i guess it needs to be stated again, the normal version of yonah is the "t" version and will consume 31 watts which is only 4 watts more than the current single core dothans (though who knows how much more this will be under full load) so NO, it's not two cores, twice the power. the "E" is the extreme edition of yonah and will be a bad ass version of it but we're not sure exactly what additional features/performance it will have such as higher clocks, hyperthreading, increased cache, and maybe even 64bit (though this part is doubtful). so there you have it people.
Lol if they didnt read my post, why would they read yours?
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post #17 of 33
10/15/05 at 5:31am
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Originally Posted by mav99
wow, i can see now how some people get really frustrated on this board. the 50 watt yonah article was explained in the same thread and still 3 hours later people are still dense enough to think that the original post is entirely accurate. do you guys not read the additional post in the same thread before commenting?
lol! yeah, i did put that article link there for a reason...
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post #18 of 33
10/15/05 at 10:14am
Honestly, most people can't read very well, or their comprehension level is subpar. Welcome to the generation that slipped through the crack education wise.
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post #19 of 33
10/15/05 at 4:18pm
yep, i agree with all three of the above posters. anyway, does anyone have any opinions/info on the new extreme edition yonah coming? i think this is a huge development and needs more attention. i started a thread on it in the notebook general thread a few days ago but it hasnt gotten much discussion. does no one care?
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post #20 of 33
10/15/05 at 5:28pm
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Originally Posted by mav99
yep, i agree with all three of the above posters. anyway, does anyone have any opinions/info on the new extreme edition yonah coming? i think this is a huge development and needs more attention. i started a thread on it in the notebook general thread a few days ago but it hasnt gotten much discussion. does no one care?
Personally, I think the new extreme edition Yonah is going to be a huge contender, not only because of it's lower power consumption, but also thermal output, which makes it a great Overclocking case. I can't wait to see what this thing is going to be able to do! The only thing I'm worried about is that we're kind of taking steps backwards in terms of trying to achieve better battery life in mobile chips, with the extreme edition. Obviously, it consumes less power than the Prescott desktop chips and such that were and are being dumped into some gaming laptops, but it doesn't consume ENOUGH less to make much of a dent in battery life unless Intel has come up with some amazing power saving scheme for the chip.
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