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post #21 of 58
10/17/05 at 12:00am
Hmm, I don't know if you're going to find a good solution to that maximising-after-reopening problem. But good luck to you at least

I was just wondering if you've tried Litestep? (In case people don't already know) it's a replacement for the desktop/taskbar/system-tray for windows, and is pretty amazingly configurable, if you've got the time and the skills to hack through all the config files... Currently I'm using the default theme - Austerity - which has the best implementation of virtual desktops I've used:



You drag windows between the three desktops dragging them here (you can do it by moving them off the edge of your screen, but it's slower) and switch desktops using right-click. In any case, the underlying implementation is much the same as your technique (off-screen to the right of desktop 1 is the left of desktop 2, for example) but the way you switch between desktops, and move windows between them, is, IMO, far better than pan-and-scan.

Oh and maximising works perfectly under Litestep, but most virtual window managers handle maximising fine, anyway.

edit: that image is actual size, and lives on your taskbar next to the start-button-equivalent...
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post #22 of 58
10/17/05 at 12:08am
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Originally Posted by Ricowan
It's not necessary to do all of the uninstall/edit/re-install stuff. At least not with 78.11 I just tried it out, added the new resolution, then checked the "Only show custom modes" box and the new resolution became selectable. No issues at all.

I prefer virtual desktop though, so I just did it to see if I could.

Ricowan

This is good news. The reason I had to do all the BS was that every time I tried to add a custom resolution, I would get an error to the effect of, "Resolution could not be added". It simply wouldn't let me do it. I will update the initial post with this info, thanks!

BTW, you can do this AND have multiple over-sized desktops.

-Doc
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post #23 of 58
10/17/05 at 12:11am
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Originally Posted by tcat92
I got the 77.7 from laptopvideotogo.com and followed your direction. Worked like a charm.
Glad it worked out. There are a lot of versions of the drivers that have the menues removed. There's a tool called "Coolbits 2" that adds them back in since they're just hidden.

There are lots of good threads on the overclocking subject, and I don't know much about doing it one way Vs the other. I flashed my video BIOS to do it.

-Doc
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post #24 of 58
10/17/05 at 12:27am
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Originally Posted by geelen
Hmm, I don't know if you're going to find a good solution to that maximizing-after-reopening problem. But good luck to you at least
It's not really an issue for me since the apps I maximize are always maximized. Therefore I simply size them to 1920x1200. I'd like to find a real fix, but for now I'm happy with the "it works for me" solution. :-)

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Originally Posted by geelen
I was just wondering if you've tried Litestep?
I hadn't, thanks for the info. It sounds really nice, but I still get a bit twitchy about multiple desktops. It's just personal preference. I find the panning to be seamless and natural since there's absolutely no act of transition. As a separate thing, I think panning is an awesome way to work with big spreadsheets and the likes.

-Doc
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post #25 of 58
10/17/05 at 1:32am
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Originally Posted by Doc.Caliban
I think panning is an awesome way to work with big spreadsheets and the likes.
Yep, I'll concede that. I'm glad I don't work with huge spreadsheets...
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post #26 of 58
10/17/05 at 8:24pm
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Originally Posted by Doc.Caliban
I don't know how to go about measuring this, but I can say that there is no noticeable lag whatsoever when I pan around. I doubt that there's much impact, if any, since I first saw this as a fearute with a video card and driver I had 11 years ago.

-Doc
Doc - I guess, memory and performance wise your approach should be comparable to running multiple displays. Many people do this, with today's graphics controllers, without noticing any performance degradation. But, there should be some limit to desktop space size, before memory and performance is affected.

AgentEE7
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post #27 of 58
10/18/05 at 12:32am
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Originally Posted by AgentEE7
Doc - I guess, memory and performance wise your approach should be comparable to running multiple displays. Many people do this, with today's graphics controllers, without noticing any performance degradation. But, there should be some limit to desktop space size, before memory and performance is affected.

AgentEE7

I agree with that, but at 3840x2400, double wide, double tall, I have no performance impact and I can't imagine wanting the desktop to be any bigger than that. So I think that practical applications of the trick are within the limits.

-Doc
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post #28 of 58
10/18/05 at 12:48am
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Originally Posted by Doc.Caliban
I agree with that, but at 3840x2400, double wide, double tall, I have no performance impact and I can't imagine wanting the desktop to be any bigger than that. So I think that practical applications of the trick are within the limits.

-Doc
It's so great having 2GB of RAM to kill
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post #29 of 58
10/19/05 at 2:08pm
Wow this is great! I really wish I could do it on my *crappy* work PC too however it has an ATI Rage 128 in it.

Anyone have any ideas on how to make this trick work on an ATI?

Martian
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post #30 of 58
10/19/05 at 2:44pm
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The first time I saw it was on a Diamond Stealth 32, so your Rage 128 can definitely do it.

Try the same thing. It should just be a matter of finding the right line in the INF to modify.
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post #31 of 58
10/19/05 at 10:49pm
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I'm running it at a full 3840x2400 now.

I just snap my wrist to one corner or another and I have a completely seperate desktop space to work with.

I usually have several applications running at the same time, and now they're all out where I can see them: No minimizing and restoring, and no Alt-Tab'ing.

-Doc
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post #32 of 58
10/20/05 at 4:16pm
umm...can you do this with ati x300?
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post #33 of 58
11/9/05 at 7:10pm
lol I just got this working and I am pretty impressed but... I wish that you could set up the 2 grids as seperate displays...

right now each grid is disp 1.1 or 1.2... and that is only for some nvidia functions... What I want is it to create a display 0 and then overlay over the top of that display 1 and display 2 so I can use one half or the other or full whenever I please...

also has anybody figured out a way to have the time and tray appear on the first part of the screen?
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post #34 of 58
11/10/05 at 4:38am
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Originally Posted by ozzlo
lol I just got this working and I am pretty impressed but... I wish that you could set up the 2 grids as seperate displays...

also has anybody figured out a way to have the time and tray appear on the first part of the screen?
EXACTLY what i was about to say... would much prefer having the entire taskbar and tray visible for both grids. Now that would really be cool
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post #35 of 58
11/10/05 at 2:24pm
You guys now the Virtual Desktop Manager overview dont you? Right klick Taskbar Symbolbars (??? in German it is Symbolleisten) .
Desktop Manager. There you can configure 4 Screens with the same Destopbar or even another one....
MSVDM is the name of it I think (to be downloaded if not there under powertoys of microsoft i think)


Klick for full view
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post #36 of 58
11/10/05 at 3:43pm
Has anyone figured out how this can work with an ATI Radeon 9700 (128MB)?
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post #37 of 58
11/12/05 at 10:19pm
This is so cool, just did it, also first time using those laptopdrivers inf files, 77.77 on the 6600 go. This is great.

While looking around I found this, seems free, program:
http://www.fatfreesoft.com/2desk.php
Seems to sort of do the same thing.

Thanks for the trick.
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post #38 of 58
11/13/05 at 9:38pm
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Originally Posted by dinkenstein
i skipped step 1-4 and it just worked, now i have a 3840x1200 ultra xtreme super wide display. btw my driver ver is 77.70
I found w/ the latest 78.51 from Dell, you can add the extra sizes in the settings. Don't need to play w/ the INF files, this is cool.

When you are in the GeForce Tab, there's an Add Custom Resolution button.
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post #39 of 58
11/13/05 at 11:48pm
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Originally Posted by GOLD-BEATER
Has anyone figured out how this can work with an ATI Radeon 9700 (128MB)?
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post #40 of 58
11/14/05 at 9:22pm
Maybe this is just for crts and refresh rates, but is using these higher resolutions capable of damaging the screen?

Even though the email I got from my monitor manufacture said it be the refresh rate that could damage it.

Thanks.
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