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Poll Results: A05 BIOS: Have you had a problem?

 
  • 36% (44)
    i9300: I have been running A05 without issue.
  • 15% (19)
    i9300: I have confirmed problems with A05
  • 40% (49)
    XPS: I have been running A05 without issue.
  • 8% (10)
    XPS: I have confirmed problems with A05
122 Total Votes  
post #21 of 53
10/20/05 at 5:02pm
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Originally Posted by JohnAddisonUK
Flashed to A05 last night, 20min later machine crashed. Rebooted, memeory failed the post test. Tried both sticks one at a time, both failed at a few different addresses. 2 * 1GB Crucial memory dead within 20min of the BIOS flash.

Stuck in a stick of spare 256, flashed back to A04 and i'm now running on 2 * 256MB until Crucial complete my RMA.

Good job Dell.
A bios flash did not take out your RAM.

XPS2, running A05 without issue.
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post #22 of 53
10/20/05 at 6:54pm
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Originally Posted by ixian
A bios flash did not take out your RAM.

XPS2, running A05 without issue.
And how can you be so sure? A bios flash could alter memory timings, voltages and more. Learn a little before you dismiss an idea.
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post #23 of 53
10/20/05 at 7:01pm
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Originally Posted by JohnAddisonUK
And how can you be so sure? A bios flash could alter memory timings, voltages and more. Learn a little before you dismiss an idea.

The part you are missing is that Dell created that bios, with all it's associated memory timings, voltages, and more, with it's own memory in mind, not the aftermarket Crucial you stuck in there. Many XPS 2 users have upgraded to the latest bios including me and have not experienced your problem. It could have been any number of factors that caused your memory to go, but you immediately zero'd in on Dell and something they did in their new bios. I think you're the one who should stop dismissing ideas and learn a little, but that's just my humble opinion.
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post #24 of 53
10/21/05 at 1:43am
XPS Gen2 - running A05 without any issues.
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post #25 of 53
10/21/05 at 11:28am
i9300 with problems
Fan doesn't turn on, even when the temps got to 57 for CPU and 78 for GPU, Strange thing.
I can turn them on manually with i9kfangui but that's not normal
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post #26 of 53
10/21/05 at 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by ixian
The part you are missing is that Dell created that bios, with all it's associated memory timings, voltages, and more, with it's own memory in mind, not the aftermarket Crucial you stuck in there. Many XPS 2 users have upgraded to the latest bios including me and have not experienced your problem. It could have been any number of factors that caused your memory to go, but you immediately zero'd in on Dell and something they did in their new bios. I think you're the one who should stop dismissing ideas and learn a little, but that's just my humble opinion.

Actually, it makes a lot of sense to me. So my joke about intentional might not be that funny after all. Dell certainly is not happy about us getting cheap ram etc everywhere else instead of them.

Question: how many of guys who have A05 problems have non-Dell RAM etc in their lappies?
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post #27 of 53
10/21/05 at 12:23pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Maine_Coon
Question: how many of guys who have A05 problems have non-Dell RAM etc in their lappies?

XPS, OCZ, A05, No problems.

-Doc
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post #28 of 53
10/21/05 at 5:13pm
Thread Starter 
A note on temps and i9kfangui...

This is from Spudsdude:

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Originally Posted by spudsdude
Bios A05 for the 9300 and xps2 resumes control of the fans reguardless of i9kfangui settings. I will be addressing this in the next version 2.3, expect to see this with the next week or so.
This was posted today in this thread.

Just something to keep in mind.

-Doc
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post #29 of 53
10/21/05 at 6:11pm
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Originally Posted by Maine_Coon
Question: how many of guys who have A05 problems have non-Dell RAM etc in their lappies?
9300, A05, 2G Corsair.

There is no such thing as Dell RAM - the RAM you buy from Dell is....shit, can't remember the brand now. It was a common one - might have been Kingmax.
Anyway, the point is, Dell don't manufacture RAM, and the RAM they use is no different to most other brands (except for price, that is ).

IF they did something stupid like try to change timings, worst case scenario is blue screens or just not working at all. To write a BIOS that specifically targetted non-Dell RAM is ....well, there's many conspiracy sites out there that will tell you how and why this is done.
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post #30 of 53
10/21/05 at 6:51pm
Thread Starter 
Mine was Samsung. I believe that's usually pretty nice stuff.

-Doc
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post #31 of 53
10/22/05 at 12:40am
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Originally Posted by improwise
Is it only me that is a bit suspicious of the rapid cooling effect that these fans have after having runned just a few seconds? Could it be that the sensors are infact affected by the air rushing by rather than just the temp of the component, or are the fans really this effective?

/pJ
As I understand it, the temperature sensors are thermal diodes, which change resistance with temperature, not heat loss (i.e. wind chill).

My $0.02.
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post #32 of 53
10/22/05 at 1:26am
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Originally Posted by Xaine
9300, A05, 2G Corsair.

There is no such thing as Dell RAM - the RAM you buy from Dell is....shit, can't remember the brand now. It was a common one - might have been Kingmax.
Anyway, the point is, Dell don't manufacture RAM, and the RAM they use is no different to most other brands (except for price, that is ).

IF they did something stupid like try to change timings, worst case scenario is blue screens or just not working at all. To write a BIOS that specifically targetted non-Dell RAM is ....well, there's many conspiracy sites out there that will tell you how and why this is done.
I am not saying this is the case. Just a random thought.

Mine WAS Samsung. Now it is Kingston 6000A. Excellent RAM.

Samsung is quite good too.

Anyway, I'll stay with A04 until things will be sorted out. battery life does not concern me at all.
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post #33 of 53
10/22/05 at 1:28am
Now about 17% reported problems with A05.

17% is a huge number.
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post #34 of 53
10/22/05 at 2:23am
Thread Starter 
Total? Or for a particular system. (the xps and 9300 bios's are different animals)

-Doc
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post #35 of 53
10/22/05 at 2:26am
Thread Starter 
Yeesh. 30% for the 9300. Half that for the XPS.

The problem though is knowing for sure that the BIOS is what is causing the problem that's the cause of a negative response.

-Doc
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post #36 of 53
10/22/05 at 2:36am
Exactly. Just because I have a car crash, doesn't mean that it's because of the brand of gas I'm using

People may simply think they're having problems because the temps went up. Well - the temps are MEANT to go up, because Dell have set the fans to be used more efficiently. Is that a fault, or a misconception on what the end user THINKS that Dell should have done?
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post #37 of 53
10/22/05 at 3:09am
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Xaine
Exactly. Just because I have a car crash, doesn't mean that it's because of the brand of gas I'm using

People may simply think they're having problems because the temps went up. Well - the temps are MEANT to go up, because Dell have set the fans to be used more efficiently. Is that a fault, or a misconception on what the end user THINKS that Dell should have done?
Agreed. I should have asked people to specify which system they have and what problem they experienced if they gave a negative response in the poll. That would have helped.


-Doc
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post #38 of 53
10/22/05 at 7:45pm

Hmmm

Ya I just upgraded to A05 to hopefully get more accurate temperature readings and perhaps more realistic battery readings. Nothing seemed bad at first but I noticed that I actually had less battery life. I dunno whether it was the new NHC I got but before on battery and on max battery settings (800 mhz at 6x) I only sucked about 18-20 mW but now my laptop eats my battery away at like 22-26! Which is like hardly different from when I'm plugged in?! It kinda sucks as I lose like an hour of battery life. Any one have any suggestions?
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post #39 of 53
10/22/05 at 8:01pm
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Originally Posted by M0nk3yM4n
Ya I just upgraded to A05 to hopefully get more accurate temperature readings and perhaps more realistic battery readings. Nothing seemed bad at first but I noticed that I actually had less battery life. I dunno whether it was the new NHC I got but before on battery and on max battery settings (800 mhz at 6x) I only sucked about 18-20 mW but now my laptop eats my battery away at like 22-26! Which is like hardly different from when I'm plugged in?! It kinda sucks as I lose like an hour of battery life. Any one have any suggestions?
Run the A04 install program to go back to A04.
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post #40 of 53
10/24/05 at 4:32pm
I had heat issues with the a05. and reboots. Now, after reverting back to A04, my gpu will reach 92 degrees, and it NEVER went above 80. Now it goes way above that for both css and bf2. What gives? I've also got that crazy like diagonal/triangle pattern of grays and whites that i've seen a few others post. I play games for maybe 3 hours every 2-3 days. Mainly this machine is for work.
Weird.
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