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Hehe, im not a fan of overclocking. Yeah its a really nice performance boost but... why? At this stage with top of the line hardware it gives you extra FPS and likely degrades hardware lifespam / voids warantees. However, if your card is aging, like my 5950 Ultra ATM, then its worth overclocking cause it allows me to keep the card another month without needing a replacement :-) All that aside, i would overclock, as its probably fun and a nice boost, but im lazy. I like building computers and all, but eh... just havnt gotten too it.

I was considering it but would like to avoid it if possible, simply out of convienence. However, any serious recommendations on a full-case liquid cooling system (not just CPU)?

Whatcha think of the Koolance cases?

http://www.koolance.com/shop/default.php?cPath=28_43

Im kinda new with the watercooling thing... do you have an AIM/MSN Address you could PM me so i could ask you a few questions? :-)

I have been waiting, month to month, to replace my current laptop (Dell I8500) with the new D900K dual core unit. I need a workstation capable unit desperately, and when everyone changed their shipping dates this week to mid-December (Voodoo just says NO ETA and Rockdirect must be so embarrased that they havn't even addressed the latest delay yet), I decided to pull the string and order something this week.

Tell me why I should not order the EX7 with the P4 670 EM64T and Quadro FX 1400. I know the obvious issues, such as weight, poor battery life, heat, etc., but unless the unit shuts itself down due to the heat, those are pretty much non factors to me.

I will use it 90% for 3D rendering, Photoshop, various other graphic software and the remaining for personal use while travelling. I know the AMD gets better ratings for gaming ( not involved with that), but I thought the P4 performs better at rendering. Intel told me on two seperate occassions to opt for the P4 in lieu of the P M for 3D work. As for the P M, Dell has dropped the P4 from it's mobile lineup and replaced with the P M. Their M70, one of the highest mobile workstations in performance and speed, uses the P M. Unfortunately, there are few options available on the M70.

I want the D900K, just cannot wait any longer. I've been telling myself another month I can wait, but there are no guarantees mid-December won't be changed to mid-January. Then the Intel dual cores will be available for laptops. What then?

I understand that. Only problem is that dual core laptops are not presently available. So....if you MUST have a laptop NOW and that laptop needs to have workstation capabilities, what do you order?

I wouldn't bet on it. It seems that everyone pushed back their shipping dates by at least 30 days this week. Eurocom has been doing this for 4 months now. I have no confidence that anyone will receive their D900K prior to 01 January 2006.

But to answer your question...Yes, I can live with 4 weeks. I said that in August, again in September, then in October. I just don't think I can deal with the dissapointment that will ocurr when I see in December that the date has been changed from 15 December to 15 January!

What is your reseller telling you?

DB has enough toys to keep him happy for now..

He can wait for it. I waited for mine (P4 640).

I hesitate with dual core until I see the final results application wise and until I see it will stick with single OR dual cpu. I do video and the applications I use on dual cpu's (Intel X) run fine. I need to see more from the dual core before I jump.

As far as heat off the P4 640, its lower than my P4 550, and that is running between 70 and 90 F (not C). Your 670 should not be throwing off the amount of heat your thinking it will, you'll be surprised. And yes the P4 does render better than the P M. Thats why they are not abandoning the P4s.

I seriously would not use, even though it could be used as one, a lappy as a workstation. Get a pc that IS a workstation rather than build one up to run like one. In the long run it would be a smarter move.

Unfortunately, I have no choice and require a laptop since I need to perform renderings for clients at their offices and while in hotel rooms when I travel. I also take my laptop home to work and cannot load the software onto my personal computer.

As for the heat issue, I have seen on other forums (Sager) that some are experiencing shutdowns believed to be caused by the excessive heat generated by the P4.

Heat Issues

I use two Pepsi (Coke or whatever) bottle caps, raises the back of lappy about 1/2", heard that Legos (cheaper than those lappy coolers) can work just as well, that really does the trick. On top of that, the nice little rubber cover on the multi card slots, take that off and do not replace it, that acts as a vent as well and my machine is fine.

If you need to do it on the road then you have no choice, however from what I am reading the D900K is being built and shipped. The demand may have exceeded their expectations and they are not saying that.

And I just noticed they do not list the X2's in their builds.

The reason for the delay (So i've heard) _IS_ the X2. Some may be shipping with the FX chips, the X2 for some reason has a couple bugs -- is i believe the reason for sager's delay.

As far as why you should wait for the d900k over getting a p4 now
1) Its an amd vs intel thus all those debates can be inserted here
2) Wow does the AMD still produce less head than a prescott
3) Either the FX will perform better single task or the X2 better multitask, they're better performance chips.
4) 7800GTX....
5) If you wanna support P-M and centrino, fine, okay, at least they get the job done. But theres no reason to ever support prescotts(P4s) in laptops -- its a crime against humanity.

6) If you wanna wait super long for a Pentium-D in a laptop... itll never come out. The Pentium D takes a minimum of 200 Watts, idle. over 300 under load. So if you really want dual core .. 1 month doesnt seem so bad. Especially considering the X2 takes, under load, about 108Watts (Maybe less in laptop conditions, modified chip, i don't know?), a third that of the Pentium D.

You know just when you order

They turn around and introduce something that is always better! Where are the good old days when you had at least a year to wait for the new stuff to hit the market?

Case being just what the hell intel has up their sleves for their new M's and their new line up of lower wattage and heat chips.

You get what you need and live with it. Then in a few years you start all over again. Or maybe they should have a pc of the month club and just start sending out the latest and if it doesnt meet your standards send it back, at least you had it for 30 days to try it.

Hey Darth....congratulations on your order.
Ma self i 've been waiting for this sucker since 'bout a year ( amd+pci).
The aviator fx7 from hyper seems to be better dan whatever i had expected in terms of the hardware dat they're offering. I wonder if there is a better lappy any where in the world compared to the fx7.
BTW........do you know of the lappies made by .....'L' ?
The company seems to've dissappeared.
And what about Falcon Nw?
Had a look at what they've been upto?

Just don't ask DB what he uses for liquid in his liquid cooling system.....